Cowboys have contacted OL Tyson Clabo

[supercowboy8]

As I stated, I wish Dallas would never sign another free agent lineman. It.is a sorry approach to building a quality line.

I would love to build the OL through the draft but we may need a stop gap or veteran insurance for a year or two

I like Parnell but we need some incase he doesn't work out and we may not be able to get a OT in the first two rounds this draft

 

[honyock]

I might be more for this move than any other OL move that's been linked to Dallas.

Of course, I'll be doing backflips if Dallas makes any of those FA moves concerning the line. It will at least be one step in the right direction.

But I am greedy ... gimme all three and kick Free and Livings to the curb. (Bernadeau can stay and battle for the center spot.)

I'm right there with you brutha. I'd be really happy with Moore. But Clabo is growing on me (makes it sound like I need a penicillin shot) and bringing him in does make a lot of sense.

 

[gimmesix]

can you name 3 other starting OTs in the NFL that are 32 or older?

Found an article before last season that listed 13 starting linemen going into the season who were 33 or older. Four more were 32, with Bryant McKinnie turning 33 that September. Eight more were 31, with two turning 32 before the end of the season.

Clabo would be a good two- to three-year stopgap as Dallas tries to populate the line with more young, drafted linemen.

 

[DeaconBlues]

you cant keep going younger younger younger younger just because someone starts the chant. Some positions require older guys and the OL is those positions where you want your players a little older and a lot wiser.

So, based on this "logic" it was a mistake to draft Smith.

:bang2:

 

[DeaconBlues]

Why don't we just draft an OT? Way cheaper than Clabo will be thanks to the new rookie salary cap, and way younger. Why keep blowing money on older stopgap guys when we can draft a guy and plug him in there for 4 years and forget about him?

Draft the best OT or G available. Start Parnell if we get a G. Free is gone.That said Id be pretty happy though getting Clabo. He is solid.

Voices of reason. We need to fill through the draft, rather than continuously rely on FAs for the OL.

 

[gimmesix]

Voices of reason. We need to fill through the draft, rather than continuously rely on FAs for the OL.

Some of us would just prefer we sign free agents we need and build through the draft. zThey don't have to be mutually exclusive.

 

[supercowboy8]

Found an article before last season that listed 13 starting linemen going into the season who were 33 or older. Four more were 32, with Bryant McKinnie turning 33 that September. Eight more were 31, with two turning 32 before the end of the season.

Clabo would be a good two- to three-year stopgap as Dallas tries to populate the line with more young, drafted linemen.

how many OTs, not interior OL and how many are starting and or still starting. I don't care how many are in the league.

I asked you to name 3 other starting OTs age 32 or older.

Also Winston would be a better one or two year stop gap, IMO.

You like Clabo, I like Winston.

 

[jnday]

you cant keep going younger younger younger younger just because someone starts the chant. Some positions require older guys and the OL is those positions where you want your players a little older and a lot wiser.

The smart way to build an oline is to draft a good young core group or a couple of drafts and let them play together and gel over several seasons. Keep some linemen developing that can step in and play with the core group without missing a heat. Free agent castoffs play a year or two and move on. It is a quick fix but it results in a mess like the current line. Changing linemen every couple of years is sure failure. Jerry has stated that he likrs to address the line with free agents. It is another example of why he shouldn't be a GM.

 

[supercowboy8]

The smart way to build an oline is to draft a good young core group or a couple of drafts and let them play together and gel over several seasons. Keep some linemen developing that can step in and play with the core group without missing a heat. Free agent castoffs play a year or two and move on. It is a quick fix but it results in a mess like the current line. Changing linemen every couple of years is sure failure. Jerry has stated that he likrs to address the line with free agents. It is another example of why he shouldn't be a GM.

Very true but we are in that quick fix time. I don't see any OTs that Dallas will be able to draft that can some in and start and preform well on this team and this scheme day one.

 

[jnday]

Very true but we are in that quick fix time. I don't see any OTs that Dallas will be able to draft that can some in and start and preform well on this team and this scheme day one.

I agree. These quick fixes happen far to often on the oline. With a core group that is getting older and will decline quickly, they have no other option than to go with a quick fix. They have two or three years at the most before the bottom drops out and they go from 8-8 to to 3-13.

 

[supercowboy8]

Here is a list of OTs 32 and over still on a team
Jordan Gross 32
Bryant McKinnie, 33
Andrew withworth, 31, will be 32 in December
David Diehl, 32

 

[Oh_Canada]

I believe getting the best talent that fits your team and Winston is the better talent for this team.

Also you think Winston regressed, so has Clabo. You must not have seen many Falcons games this year. Clabo will be 32 in October, if he has regressed yet, he will at any time.

Wow-ok. Falcons gave up twelve fewer sacks than Winston's Chiefs, Football Outsiders had them ranked eighth best Oline in pass protection. Clabo gave up four sacks all year, the guy's a pretty good RT.

I would be ok with whoever comes cheaper.

 

[Bware_Dware]

Here is a list of OTs 32 and over still on a team
Jordan Gross 32
Bryant McKinnie, 33
Andrew withworth, 31, will be 32 in December
David Diehl, 32

This!!

 

[supercowboy8]

Wow-ok. Falcons gave up twelve fewer sacks than Winston's Chiefs, Football Outsiders had them ranked eighth best Oline in pass protection. Clabo gave up four sacks all year, the guy's a pretty good RT.

I would be ok with whoever comes cheaper.

So your comparing Winston and clabo by using the entire KC line stats

Pro football focus shows Clabo giving up 5 sacks to Winston only allowing 3. This also with Winston having terrible QB play and bad WRs. Atlanta has Matt Ryan who can get the ball out fast to two very good WRs and TE

 

[Stash]

I might be more for this move than any other OL move that's been linked to Dallas.

Of course, I'll be doing backflips if Dallas makes any of those FA moves concerning the line. It will at least be one step in the right direction.

But I am greedy ... gimme all three and kick Free and Livings to the curb. (Bernadeau can stay and battle for the center spot.)

I'm right there with you.

I want both.

Make the concerted effort and clear investment in shoring up your biggest weakness, your offensive line.

Give yourself as many options as possible and therefore the greatest chance for success.

Sign either one of Clabo and Winston and Brandon Moore to get things right for now, and still use a significant amount of draft picks on younger options.

Both a young guard and a young tackle.

Heck, I'd even use one on Barrett Jones as an improvement at center.

Considering all of the struggles over the past decade plus, I would go the route many consider 'overkill' to ensure I got it right this time.

Not only to protect my recent big money investment, but to make my entire offense much, much better.

 

[Bowdown27]

If we can get Clabo before the draft it leaves us in a great position. If cooper or warmack fall, we take on of them and whole oline is in a better position than last year. But if both are gone it gives us a little leeway to not reach on an olinemen because we are desperate. Hopefully we look into Clabo further

 

[Dorsett33]

I don't understand the logic. People want to give up on Free (who only had one bad year) for guys who might not be any better. I know Free is expensive and that cutting him will free up some cap space, but then wouldn't signing someone (who might not be any better) counteract the cap space we make up for cutting Free?

One bad year? Were you sleep the year before?

 

[SMCowboy]

Some of us would just prefer we sign free agents we need and build through the draft. zThey don't have to be mutually exclusive.

With the salary cap, and the cost involved in signing the OL, yes it does end up being mutually exclusive.

Dallas simply does not have the salary cap space to sign a Eric Winston or Clabo, plus draft an OT in round 1 or 2.

 

[Stash]

With the salary cap, and the cost involved in signing the OL, yes it does end up being mutually exclusive.

Dallas simply does not have the salary cap space to sign a Eric Winston or Clabo, plus draft an OT in round 1 or 2.

I disagree.

If they sign Winston or Clabo, Free is gone. When Free goes, you have your money for your draft picks.

Besides, a first round pick costs what it costs, offensive lineman or not.

 

[LittleD]

With the salary cap, and the cost involved in signing the OL, yes it does end up being mutually exclusive.

Dallas simply does not have the salary cap space to sign a Eric Winston or Clabo, plus draft an OT in round 1 or 2.

We do have the room to sign Clabo right now. If we let Free go or designate him a June 1st cut, we would have 7mil from Free and 2mil from Spears to sign draft picks or last ditch free agents. We currently have 4.4mil in the bank to sign Clabo and we could easily sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal backended with a descent signing bonus spread over the years.