Cowboys Have Re-signed Anthony Spencer

[rwill784]

If anything it means depth. I am all for depth no more relying on one guy to solve all our problems. We need to take a Seahawks mentality and send waves of fresh linemen at the qb, not the same hobbled four over and over.

 

[The Quest for Six]

bargain basement signing......highly doubtful he'll contribute anything this year..

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I can see them using Spencer on the weakside. Will they? I'm not sure... but he certainly could play there.

At 6-3, 250 pounds Marinelli might see him as a weakside end. If so, that would put our current ends (and tackles) as most likely:

WDE - Spencer/Selvie/Mincey
DT - Melton/Kearse
DT - McClain/Hayden
SDE - Crawford/Bass/Mincey

Going into the draft, Dallas could literally use a high pick or two on either DE and either DT without blinking an eye. IMO, Tackle is the slightly bigger need.

If Dallas drafted (for instance):

Aaron Donald in round 1
and
Scott Crichton in round 2

then Crichton goes strongside to compete with Crawford/Mincey, and Bass goes inside to compete at DT.

The DT's would likely be Donald, Melton, McClain and Hayden/Bass or another draft pick like Caraun Reid.

Spencer/Selvie/Mincey would play on the weakside.

That would provide a lot of competition and versatility along the defensive line. If Spencer made it back ok from the injury, we would actually be pretty damn good at WDE. If he didn't, then Selvie/Mincey would likely provide, at worst, a solid rotation there.

I couldn't disagree more about WDE. I don't think we have anyone suited for the WDE right now. Spencer has the size but he's coming off microfracture surgey. And Selvie had his most success at SDE. I don't see why we would spend a high pick on SDE and not WDE. I would go Ford/Attachou/Lawrence over Crichton/Ealy/Tuitt. I also think WDE is a bigger need than DT, but Donald is clearly the best player in the draft for us, so if he's available you take him.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I see it more like this:


SDE - Spencer/Selvie/Mincey
DT - Melton/Bass
DT - McClain/Hayden/Crawford
SDE - Draft Pick/Mincey/Selvie

 

[udas]

excellent. we have gotten to the point where we are not forced into drafting DL in round 1. no shante carver nightmare scenarios

I'm not sure why so many are optimistic about this signing and ready to go a different direction in round 1. I would presume Spencer has made some progress in his rehab to get this deal done, but frankly his options would be even more limited after the draft which is why it was important to woy to get the deal done now. Though I dont think we should force a dl pick in round 1 this signing should in no way shift the focus. If there isnt a defensive line worth the 16th pick then we should consider trading back, dependent on who else may be there.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I see it more like this:


SDE - Spencer/Selvie/Mincey
DT - Melton/Bass
DT - McClain/Hayden/Crawford
SDE - Draft Pick/Mincey/Selvie

Yeah, I think we have guys piling up who can play SDE. Also, there aren't any amazing SDEs in this draft that I'd take over the WDEs who would be available when we pick in the 1st or 2nd. I'd take Ford/Lawrence/Attachou, even Murphy, over guys like Crichton and Ealy. Sure, Spencer has good size for a WDE, but I don't know if he has the burst anymore. He's 30+ and coming off microfracture surgery. Burst is more important than size for WDE. I don't care if he's 250 lbs, he probably runs like a 280 lber coming out of the draft.

 

[speedkilz88]

I see it more like this:


SDE - Spencer/Selvie/Mincey
DT - Melton/Bass
DT - McClain/Hayden/Crawford
SDE - Draft Pick/Mincey/Selvie

Both ends are on the strong side?

 

[JoeyBoy718]

And, I forgot to mention, Spencer has always been great against the run. I don't know why he wouldn't play the strong side. We really have no WDEs on this roster. If Barr is off the board at 16, I'd trade back and get Dee Ford.

 

[Vintage]

My guess Spencer and Jeremy Mincy are battling for one roster spot...... I still think they are gonna try and make a deal for Anthony Barr

Nah. They are going after John Abraham

 

[TheCount]

On talkin cowboys they said that he has been running on a treadmill, just not on his own. Apparently it doesn't stress it as much on a treadmill.

He's probably "running" on a rehab treadmill, not the type of treadmill you and I might use in a gym.

I hope he's ready, it would help the team. I just don't think the signing means anything in terms of how we prepare for the future.

 

[jobberone]

Spencer is a SDE although he can certainly rush from the weak side, too. He's a pretty good SDE when healthy and last year they ran over Selvie a good bit although to be fair we gave up 4.5+ YPC if I remember correctly.

 

[Vinnie2u]

I didn't like Spencer At 10 mil.. At 1 or 2 mil two thumbs up... I wonder if Austin is coming back...

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Oh geez. I was hoping he was gone for good.

 

[Nightman]

Based on what, exactly?

Based on the 20 guys we ran out there last year. Ware, Selvie and who else???

 

[AsthmaField]

I couldn't disagree more about WDE. I don't think we have anyone suited for the WDE right now. Spencer has the size but he's coming off microfracture surgey. And Selvie had his most success at SDE. I don't see why we would spend a high pick on SDE and not WDE. I would go Ford/Attachou/Lawrence over Crichton/Ealy/Tuitt. I also think WDE is a bigger need than DT, but Donald is clearly the best player in the draft for us, so if he's available you take him.

You and I tend to agree more than disagree and in this situation I think I am just looking at it a little different than you are.

I agree that we need WDE more than SDE in the draft, but if you're talking about a second round player, I like Crichton an awful lot. I don't like Ealy or Tuitt at all, period. Ford and Attaochu I like a lot as well. Either of them would be more than fine with me and maybe would be the smarter move for Dallas, like you say. I am certainly not above having my mind changed.

I didn't list Ford because I think he will be gone in round 1 and since in the example I used Donald as our first, I ruled him out. Attaochu would be good for us in the second and I would be more than happy with Donald and Attaochu in my example with Spencer playing on the strongside.

You also made a good point in a later post than the one I quoted, when you said that although Spencer is the size of a weakside end, that he is stout against the run and his speed/quickness might be lessened because of the microfracture surgery. The Spencer of two years ago, I would play on the weakside... the Spencer we have now might be best at strongside.

So, while I do like Crichton an awful lot and think that he might be the BPA at our pick (and we shouldn't skip a SDE just because we have more people there)... I also like Attaochu a lot and think it would be a good move getting him on the weakside, which I agree is a bigger need.

So, your point is well taken.

 

[Denim Chicken]

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Both ends are on the strong side?

meant WDE on the draft pick side. I think we can have Stevie and Mincey swing as back ups/ rotation.

 

[fifaguy]

 

[JoeyBoy718]

You and I tend to agree more than disagree and in this situation I think I am just looking at it a little different than you are.

I agree that we need WDE more than SDE in the draft, but if you're talking about a second round player, I like Crichton an awful lot. I don't like Ealy or Tuitt at all, period. Ford and Attaochu I like a lot as well. Either of them would be more than fine with me and maybe would be the smarter move for Dallas, like you say. I am certainly not above having my mind changed.

I didn't list Ford because I think he will be gone in round 1 and since in the example I used Donald as our first, I ruled him out. Attaochu would be good for us in the second and I would be more than happy with Donald and Attaochu in my example with Spencer playing on the strongside.

You also made a good point in a later post than the one I quoted, when you said that although Spencer is the size of a weakside end, that he is stout against the run and his speed/quickness might be lessened because of the microfracture surgery. The Spencer of two years ago, I would play on the weakside... the Spencer we have now might be best at strongside.

So, while I do like Crichton an awful lot and think that he might be the BPA at our pick (and we shouldn't skip a SDE just because we have more people there)... I also like Attaochu a lot and think it would be a good move getting him on the weakside, which I agree is a bigger need.

So, your point is well taken.

My dream before the draft was Donald and Ford. This was when they were both 2nd round prospects and there was an actual possibility of trading back and getting both of them. I wouldn't mind Crichton but not if it means we don't address WDE at all. I have a feeling our plan is:
1) Hope Donald makes it past Atlanta, NY, Chi.. if not, then
2) Hope Barr makes it to us.. if not, then
3) see if any of the top 3 OTs fall, or maybe Martin, and if not
4) trade back and try to get an extra 2nd or 3rd

 

[Va_BoysFan4 Life]

I have no problem with Attaochu and like Lawrence alot. I'm not a big Ford fan, however if he is our pick I would not be totally upset. But it seems we all agree that WDE with speed and a quick first step is exactly what is need. I reall believe Spencer (if healthy) and Selvie in rotation is the best option on the strong side. With a good rotation across the board with player not playing 600 -800 plays will definitely improve the whole DLine.

A trade back (with Donald gone) is really not a bad thing.

Note: Barr could be an option but I'm not in favor of trading away picks to go up and get him.

 

[lkelly]

We're getting close. Just waiting for us to trade for Ware and then we'll be all set for that run to 8-8.