Cowboys Have Re-signed Anthony Spencer

[Beast_from_East]

That's probably going to be his story but I think this guy is versatile. I don't see him as the safest pick. I think he can play some rush end, Sam and play in nickel and dime packages as well as be a ST demon. His best position is probably WOLB though as you suggested.

Ford is going to be a good edge rusher in a 43, the Cowboys should consider him in a trade back scenario. 16 is probably a little rich for Ford.

 

[AsthmaField]

I'd definitely move up for Donald and nobody else, but I don't think it would take only a 3rd (or maybe less). And hasn't Atlanta (who picks at #5) been considering him? If it took a 2nd to move from 14 to 6 in a much weaker draft, what would it take to move from 16 to 4? Even moving to 10 or 11 would cost a lot. I'm guessing a 3rd and maybe a 4th/5th.

We're on the same page with how good we think Donald is, but we will just agree to disagree about how much it might cost to do it.

I'm certainly not talking about moving from 16 to 4 because that would be too expensive. If Donald is going to go to Atlanta at 5 (I don't think he will) then I'd say we just missed out on a fantastic player.

I'm talking about going from 16 to maybe 10 or 11. I really can't see it costing more than a 3rd, although if the team thinks Dallas is desperate to get Donald, it could jack the price up some more.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

6 Weeks on the PUP and then an injury settlement. That about sums up my expectations for Anthony Spencer. Hopefully, he exceeds my minimal expectations for him.

 

[jobberone]

Ford is going to be a good edge rusher in a 43, the Cowboys should consider him in a trade back scenario. 16 is probably a little rich for Ford.

I think so, too. He has people a tad bit worried over his size but he makes plays.

 

[CF74]

6 Weeks on the PUP and then an injury settlement. That about sums up my expectations for Anthony Spencer. Hopefully, he exceeds my minimal expectations for him.

Yeah I'm still confused.. Didn't everyone say his issue was career ending?

 

[BigStar]

Ford is going to be a good edge rusher in a 43, the Cowboys should consider him in a trade back scenario. 16 is probably a little rich for Ford.

I was under the same thinking but am seeing Ford moving up to that range more recently. He seemed to jump from late1/early2 to that range in some of the mocks being forecasted. I would love Barr, but with him and Donald likely gone, I would go Ford or even Pryor with that pick. If the team settles on Martin I wouldn't complain bc am a big believer in over investing in the OL. Don't like Ealy due to his lacking quick twitch athleticism (slow off the snap).

 

[BigStar]

Yeah, I could see Selvie splitting time at WDE with whoever we draft. I think he's more suited for there anyway.

Selvie is a good pass rusher but not the most athletic specimen. Agree that he could play both sides adequately, or to allow a rook time to become acclimated or to build strength, etc. Selvie is a good undersized SDE in my opinion mainly due to his lack of superior athleticism and is surprisingly great @ setting the edge considering his size. If Spencer comes back 100% he would reclaim that position of course and Selvie will be a great rotational peg.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't care about this "new chart", the consensus in the media (even on the Draft Show on DC.com) was that we got raped last year by the 49ers.

Raped is a strong word and really, when was the last time anyone really cared what the media thinks or says about the Cowboys in general. They all hate because it sells. That isn't exactly breaking news. Does anyone really give a flip if some media perosn thinks the Cowboys got the wrong side of a trade when it's clear personel wise we got the best deal? And the whole new chart you supposedly don't care about? Your posting history the last year is proof that simply isn't true.

 

[Corso]

Raped is a strong word and really, when was the last time anyone really cared what the media thinks or says about the Cowboys in general. They all hate because it sells. That isn't exactly breaking news. Does anyone really give a flip if some media perosn thinks the Cowboys got the wrong side of a trade when it's clear personel wise we got the best deal? And the whole new chart you supposedly don't care about? Your posting history the last year is proof that simply isn't true.

Punch... to the face.

 

[udas]

6 Weeks on the PUP and then an injury settlement. That about sums up my expectations for Anthony Spencer. Hopefully, he exceeds my minimal expectations for him.

Spencer will play at some point next season, the only question is how much of an impact can he make?

 

[gimmesix]

Bass is starting to enter Costa, Matt Johnson, AOA, and that QB/WR who ended up going to the Patriots a few years ago (forget name) territory. These are the CZ legends who never played a meaningful snap.

Stanback

Sounds incentive based:
Woy announced via Twitter that the 30-year-old Spencer reached a one-year deal with the team and can earn as much as $3.5 million in 2014.

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...s-re-sign-free-agent-de-anthony-spencer.html/

"Earn as much as" sounds good to me. I don't mind Dallas spending on guys like Spencer if it's a show-me-type deal. To me, the Melton and Spencer deals are both good, smart investments on Dallas' part.

 

[gimmesix]

I see it more like this:


SDE - Spencer/Selvie/Mincey
DT - Melton/Bass
DT - McClain/Hayden/Crawford
SDE - Draft Pick/Mincey/Selvie

I'd move Crawford to 3-tech. I don't think his skills or build fit the 1-tech spot. Otherwise, I agree ... although I think Selvie might end up as the primary backup at RDE and Mincey at LDE. Crawford could end up playing some LDE, too. Bass practiced there some, but I really think he's more of a 3-tech.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'd move Crawford to 3-tech. I don't think his skills or build fit the 1-tech spot. Otherwise, I agree ... although I think Selvie might end up as the primary backup at RDE and Mincey at LDE. Crawford could end up playing some LDE, too. Bass practiced there some, but I really think he's more of a 3-tech.

I've never understood the "Crawford" is a backup 1-tech DT talk.

I mean the guy was a 4-3 DE in college and is 6'4" 285lbs and ran a 4.82 forty at the combine... How does this translate to a 1-technique DT?

If he plays on the inside he's 3-technique guy.

 

[Nirvana]

On talkin cowboys they said that he has been running on a treadmill, just not on his own. Apparently it doesn't stress it as much on a treadmill.

Probably one of these:

 

[gimmesix]

I've never understood the "Crawford" is a backup 1-tech DT talk.

I mean the guy was a 4-3 DE in college and is 6'4" 285lbs and ran a 4.82 forty at the combine... How does this translate to a 1-technique DT?

If he plays on the inside he's 3-technique guy.

Maybe on clear passing downs Dallas could put him in there at the 1, but he definitely doesn't fit the Booger McFarland type needed for the every-down role. You want that squat body with good weight, strength to not get uprooted by the center-guard double team. Ideally, that guy can also push the pocket against the pass to make the others rushing upfield more effective. The more disruptive he is, the better off the rest will be. (I could see Bass ending up as an every-down 1 more than I can see Crawford there ... and I don't it's a good fit for Bass either because of his height-to-weight ratio.)

Unfortunately, we don't really have anyone at that position on McFarland's level.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Maybe on clear passing downs Dallas could put him in there at the 1, but he definitely doesn't fit the Booger McFarland type needed for the every-down role. You want that squat body with good weight, strength to not get uprooted by the center-guard double team. Ideally, that guy can also push the pocket against the pass to make the others rushing upfield more effective. The more disruptive he is, the better off the rest will be. (I could see Bass ending up as an every-down 1 more than I can see Crawford there ... and I don't it's a good fit for Bass either because of his height-to-weight ratio.)

Unfortunately, we don't really have anyone at that position on McFarland's level.

Agree with you on all counts.

In order to get Hayden off the roster they're going to have to draft a #1.

 

[Nirvana]

I'll bet you Crawford is our starting RDE this season, with Spencer and Bass rotating in as well. Spencer can rotate in at WDE as well. Hopefully we draft a WDE who can come in on the nickel package.

I've seen an interview where Crawford says he is most comfortable there and in another interview Garrett says they will play him where he is most comfortable.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Agree with you on all counts.

In order to get Hayden off the roster they're going to have to draft a #1.

Really want Hayden gone. Never understood why people liked him.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I'd move Crawford to 3-tech. I don't think his skills or build fit the 1-tech spot. Otherwise, I agree ... although I think Selvie might end up as the primary backup at RDE and Mincey at LDE. Crawford could end up playing some LDE, too. Bass practiced there some, but I really think he's more of a 3-tech.

Well, it's fortunate, if nothing else, that we have players that can move around a bit. We'll find their most valuable spot. In the draft though, I hope we can find some pure pass rushers.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well, it's fortunate, if nothing else, that we have players that can move around a bit. We'll find their most valuable spot. In the draft though, I hope we can find some pure pass rushers.

I don't know if you're going to be able to apply the term "pass rushers".

I've thought right along they would draft 3 defensive linemen.

Originally I thought it may be 1 DT and 2 DE's. Now I'm thinking it's going to be 2 DT's and 1 DE.

I can see they getting a DT and DE within the first 3 rounds. Now as far as the 3rd d-lineman, probably someone drafted in the 7th round like either a potential 1-tech DT in Derrick Hopkins out of Virginia Tech or a DE like Zach Moore out of Concordia-St. Paul.