Cowboys interested in Peppers

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um, entice them with something other than money, how? no ware was not willing to take less than what he got in denver and dallas was only able to offer around $6mil a year, which i believe they did and ware said no thank you.

Wrong! Ware was willing to take less to stay in Dallas. Dallas did not give him and offer and told him to test the market. Then Jerry mouthed off in the media that Ware wasn't willing to take a paycut, etc which pissed Ware off. If it weren't for Jerry apologizing for handling Ware's deal badly Ware would have probably be signed by the Skins or the Giants. Dallas FO handled it badly through and through which upsets me a great deal.
 

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Wrong! Ware was willing to take less to stay in Dallas. Dallas did not give him and offer and told him to test the market. Then Jerry mouthed off in the media that Ware wasn't willing to take a paycut, etc which pissed Ware off. If it weren't for Jerry apologizing for handling Ware's deal badly Ware would have probably be signed by the Skins or the Giants. Dallas FO handled it badly through and through which upsets me a great deal.

sigh.

it was stated that he was willing to restructure, and has a lot, but not take a cut. but let revisionist history live!!! viva la revisionist!!!
 
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I'm not buying any of this "interested" BS anymore...
We haven't signed on "interested" player and the guys we have signed, no one predicted it. Until the ink is dry and the Physical complete... i'm not buying it!
 

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At this point, isn't a swap of Ware/Hatcher for Peppers/Melton pretty much even on the field, and much cheaper on the cap?

Peppers/Melton haven't signed yet and I wouldn't be surprised WE also overpay for these players. Old habits die hard in Dallas!
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if we were interested in Peppers. He is a Marinelli guy through and through. That being said, he is even older than Ware. You won't see us give him the world. I would expect no more than 4 years, with an out in the last year or so if we signed him.
 

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Peppers/Melton haven't signed yet and I wouldn't be surprised WE also overpay for these players. Old habits die hard in Dallas!

Gonna have to pay for Melton, but Peppers may come cheap. As long as it's a one-year, I don't really care what they pay Peppers. Just don't hamstring the future on him.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if we were interested in Peppers. He is a Marinelli guy through and through. That being said, he is even older than Ware. You won't see us give him the world. I would expect no more than 4 years, with an out in the last year or so if we signed him.

Huh? I don't see Peppers getting more than 2 years, one preferably.
 

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Peppers/Melton haven't signed yet and I wouldn't be surprised WE also overpay for these players. Old habits die hard in Dallas!

I'm holding out hope that we don't. I think if we were going to overpay for these guys we would have done it already. Ultimately if we sign them they might be pricey, but hopefully not like the rest of these free agents.
 

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Huh? I don't see Peppers getting more than 2 years, one preferably.

Generally you have to sign guys like this for longer than that to prorate their signing bonuses. Ware signed a 3 year deal with the first two years guaranteed. My guarantee is that they cut him in year 3.
 

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Generally you have to sign guys like this for longer than that to prorate their signing bonuses. Ware signed a 3 year deal with the first two years guaranteed. My guarantee is that they cut him in year 3.

True, and they'll do that for Melton in a heartbeat at his age. But Peppers is not likely to get a big offer, so you can pay him 3-4 million on a one year and be fine.
 

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We need a RDE. Badly.

If Peppers can still play, I'm all for it.

The last thing we want to do is go into the draft needing 3 starters. It will invariably go wrong for us.
 

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True, and they'll do that for Melton in a heartbeat at his age. But Peppers is not likely to get a big offer, so you can pay him 3-4 million on a one year and be fine.
I think we would only sign Melton for a year. With his legal trouble and his injury he has a lot to prove. He is best off with a one year deal to show the league he is worth big money. That being said, if I'm Melton I probably do that 1 year in Chicago rather than move teams, then ultimately have to move again if the cowboys dont resign him.
 

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True, and they'll do that for Melton in a heartbeat at his age. But Peppers is not likely to get a big offer, so you can pay him 3-4 million on a one year and be fine.

Isn't Melton like 27 years old?
 

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I think we would only sign Melton for a year. With his legal trouble and his injury he has a lot to prove. He is best off with a one year deal to show the league he is worth big money. That being said, if I'm Melton I probably do that 1 year in Chicago rather than move teams, then ultimately have to move again if the cowboys dont resign him.

An ACL is no big deal for a defensive lineman (tons of them have had them and recovered fully), and if getting into a bar fight is going to write him off the list, you might as well nix 80 percent of the league off your list. Sad, but true.

Teams will offer Melton far more than a one year.
 

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sigh.

it was stated that he was willing to restructure, and has a lot, but not take a cut. but let revisionist history live!!! viva la revisionist!!!

Your right. But thats not Ware's fault that he didn't want to take a paycut. Jerry needs to learn to stop giving out these crazy deals that we can't pay. A contract is a contract. Revisionist history? Tell that to Jerry.
 

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At this point, isn't a swap of Ware/Hatcher for Peppers/Melton pretty much even on the field, and much cheaper on the cap?

Not if Ware returns to form, no. But you could easily turn out to be correct. There are several variables at play. What kind of player is Melton off the injury? When does Hatcher hit the wall? Does Peppers have anything left?
 
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