Cowboys were expecting Mike McCarthy to return - did not have backup plan

[StarLord]

These guys are not playing Chess.

Hell, even checkers requires you to think a move or two ahead, which these guys aren't doing.

These guys are playing wack-a-mole.

But like, drunk wack-a-mole, and only kinda sorta.

They're playing 52 pickup.. probably not with a full deck either.

 

[StarLord]

Apparently the moves made by Mike before negotiations started, putting his house up for sale and hiring a new agent, didn't set off alarm bells for the Jones company. Bravo to big Mike. I hope he mooned Jerry as he drove away from Frisco.

He flat out told them earlier in the year he didn't appreciate being on a one year deal.

 

[nate dizzle]

This is pretty strange, they wanted him back but basically pretended they didn't and then had no backup plan beyond that. My guess is Mike wanted nothing to do with Jerry and Stephen anymore.

Maybe their first friggen clue would have been months ago when he put his house for sale.

Helen Keller saw this coming, and shes deaf, blind, mute and dead.

 

[nightrain]

Go get him Jerry. He may be all you got.

 

[Rayman70]

Big and little Enos would get worked by a 5 year old in a game of chutes and ladders

Thats my favorite comp to use for the Jones boys. Big and little Enos. Fits like a glove. The imagery is spot on.

 

[InPhiltraitor]

I wonder what the wording was in the “recent report” that Ochoa is referring to.

Having a coach in a contract year and not at least playing out possible scenarios as to what may occur if he doesn’t re-sign, would be nothing short of complete negligence. I truly believe there had to be top brass (Jerry and…who knows) in meetings that discussed an action plan that should have been set in motion months ago. The plan didn’t have to result in a “this guy or bust” conclusion, but potential candidates and what’s our key criteria of those candidates had to be discussed, right? How could the man in charge of staffing and player personnel be caught off-guard by not being able to retain the services of an individual in a contact year?

To those that say, “what’s the big deal?” I’d say you’re partially correct. Fortunately, the organization isn’t completely behind the 8-ball at this point, and there are plenty of potential hires to line up for interviews. Where the ho-hum thinking is flawed is if we take Ochoa’s comments at 100% face value, and the Jones’ really have given zero thought of this happening (for what…close to year?) right up to point of Sausage Boy & Yucko the Clown parting ways. That would be just another nail in the “What would you say it is that you do here, Jerry?” coffin.

Most likely though, Ochoa is sensationalizing his statement knowing nothing makes more noise than generating material that presents Jerry Jones as the Washington Generals of NFL ownership. Kind of low-hanging fruit, that if played to often, makes the author look the part of a simpleton.

 

[nate dizzle]

Regardless of what you think of Big Mike, him telling Jerry to cram it up his cramhole is the highlight of this season...maybe this past decade.

 

[Rayman70]

Go get him Jerry. He may be all you got.

Hey, is Frank Broyles , is old Arkansas coach still kicking? Lol

 

[blueblood70]

Exactly how do you prove this?? Can't stop reading people's opinions and making them factual and by the way how is this any different than the other teams who haven't hired anyone yet some of them have had four weeks before the season ended and yet they haven't hired anyone the only team that hired a person to be their head coach and haven't even filled in their staff yet is New England and that was a slam dunk easy to predict captain obvious moment that when they fired Mayo they knew exactly who they were going to hire because we all knew that that would be the case and we all knew that Mike Vrabel was not going to turn down that job but outside of that all these other teams allegedly must have a plan and they haven't hired a single person I mean honestly I don't believe this story but even if it is true we're not behind on hiring people because nobody else has been hired that would have been available to us because Mike Vbrabel wasn't taking this job because new England was going to get him no matter what...

This is very entertaining and not a good way it's very comical because you all are all guessing you're using Internet stories as your source so you can think you're backing up your opinion using somebody else's opinion I say it's on the other side everyone who we are interested in is still available and why is that because no other team has made moves either so what's the difference between having a plan and no plan when other teams have made no hires?

Everyone is in the interviewing process and there are a lot of coaches that cannot be interviewed because they're still in the playoffs this is all wide open every single name that people been discussed in here is still available they're not behind that is another narrative that is being created so you can mock Jerry we get it you want to make fun of Jerry so we need 75 posts now about possible coaching Staffs and you make fun of the ones you think are not going to be the right ones even though they haven't been hired yet everything is out of control with hyperbole and rhetoric on these diatribes on the people you don't like..

We get it you don't like Jerry you don't think he had a plan but I'm telling you you can't prove that because you don't know what was in his mind at the time unless he comes out and says it himself and I think he already had a list because last year he molded over he thought about getting rid of Mike McCarthy and at that moment he had to think about who might replace him and he knew midway through this season if Mike McCartney didn't stay I guarantee he had at least a mental list if not a list and that is a fact because I say it is it's no more factual than the resources you're using to try to prove your point here and there is no point...

 

[nightrain]

Regardless of what you think of Big Mike, him telling Jerry to cram it up his cramhole is the highlight of this season...maybe this past decade.

 

[blueblood70]

I wonder what the wording was in the “recent report” that Ochoa is referring to.

Having a coach in a contract year and not at least playing out possible scenarios as to what may occur if he doesn’t re-sign, would be nothing short of complete negligence. I truly believe there had to be top brass (Jerry and…who knows) in meetings that discussed an action plan that should have been set in motion months ago. The plan didn’t have to result in a “this guy or bust” conclusion, but potential candidates and what’s our key criteria of those candidates had to be discussed, right? How could the man in charge of staffing and player personnel be caught off-guard by not being able to retain the services of an individual in a contact year?

To those that say, “what’s the big deal?” I’d say you’re partially correct. Fortunately, the organization isn’t completely behind the 8-ball at this point, and there are plenty of potential hires to line up for interviews. Where the ho-hum thinking is flawed is if we take Ochoa’s comments at 100% face value, and the Jones’ really have given zero thought of this happening (for what…close to year?) right up to point of Sausage Boy & Yucko the Clown parting ways. That would be just another nail in the “What would you say it is that you do here, Jerry?” coffin.

Most likely though, Ochoa is sensationalizing his statement knowing nothing makes more noise than generating material that presents Jerry Jones as the Washington Generals of NFL ownership. Kind of low-hanging fruit, that if played to often, makes the author look the part of a simpleton.

You would be very correct that these stories that are posted as if they're facts are not facts at all their opinions and I know that my facts if I say Jerry did have a plan it can be equally as true because nobody can back it up unless Jerry comes out and says it himself the operations of a man's mind is very private and whatever is been going on up there at the ranch Oh my bad the star is what it is and I guarantee I'm with you he thought about getting rid of McCarthy last year had to have a little list if not a mentalist a small list he may have put on a sticky note on his desk and when he was doing this bad during the year there's no way that it didn't cross Jerry's mind on who he might wanna hire there's no way nobody's gonna convince me otherwise just because we need hate posts and more complaints on Jerry so we just grab things off the Internet like they're a fact and they're not facts...

I mean josina Anderson is that one of the reporters from ESPN she's on Twitter about four days ago said that she spoke to Jerry and that Jerry made a bunch of phone calls just because he didn't report it to the whole world for everyone to see he was already speaking plenty of prospects that could possibly be interested in the head coaching job here he already was taking care of that just because it wasn't reported doesn't make it untrue..

I mean people around here just like to complain about Jerry so we have about 75 posts about how they hate Jerry and everything he does it's nearly as bad as the Prescott post but at least those are calm down so they can turn on Jerry Jones but let's just wait and see who is coaching Staffs are because everyone said this in 2020 they thought Mike McCarthy was a joke and it turned out Mike McCarthy was the best higher in 2020 we have all the facts it's backed by his success rate versus none of the other ones had any success that means Jerry Jones made the right choice in 2020 maybe not to every fans in their minds because we didn't get further in the playoffs but all the other coaching hires had no success whatsoever except for Mike McCarthy that's a fact..

So I'm gonna let him put together his staff before I start criticizing him....

 

[KJJ]

McCarthy snubbed them, but Jerry will never admit it.

 

[Redsfan_83]

They were hell bent on bringing in Derrick Henry for a look, and this must have slipped their mind early in the process

 

[Blitzen]

1. Ochoa is an odd fellow to me with some frequency.

2. Evaluating the field, they didn't see an obviously better option, so of course they didn't look to formulate a back-up plan.

3. Evaluating the field and the time constraints, the lack of said plan has objectively, tangibly, empirically not hurt them. They've lost out on Vrabel, but it's a hard sell that Vrabel was absolutely the best of the Plan Bs, and that, even after you account for the fact that the Pats were the odds-on favorite to land him regardless.

4. The very fact that all of us fans are so divided about what a Plan B should look like... ie, that there's no automatically-smart-move to be had... kinda makes Ochoa's headline impotent.

It's just too easy for these bloggers to beat up on the Joneses and expect clicks. Gets silly sometimes.

We could all just submit that the Cowboys lack proactive decision making at the top levels when it comes to actual football field moves. They are overwhelmingly reactive. Which unfortunately points to either laziness and/or incompetence.

 

[blueblood70]

McCarthy snubbed them, but Jerry will never admit it.

Actually he didn't isn't that funny how we could say whatever we want and it's supposed to be factual just because you said it no when Mike McCarthy comes out and says it let me know but all the rumors coming out said it was just years not money not anything else that held up the deal and I find that untrue because nobody has verified it with either party that was involved which by the way is the only way to get real facts when you're using the Internet and when you're using your feelings and what you feel happened it doesn't make it true it probably makes it further from the truth than you think..

I know what happened Jerry wanted Mike McCarthy on a shorter deal because it was gonna be a short leash and if he really wanted Mike back he would have gave him the long term deal so it technically when the owner doesn't concede to the demands of the possible head coach that would be the owner making the decision that's how it works if he wanted Mike McCarthy bad enough and it was just years he would've gave him what he wanted but Jerry did not want Mike McCarthy long term without a way out when he fails it has to be fired mid season or after one year which happens around the NFL Jerry didn't wanna be in that position that's my opinion but I think the real holdout was not years it was not money Jerry wanted to dictate Mike McCarthy's offensive staff most likely because he didn't like what's been going on on offense and neither did I I'm betting he was telling Mike McCarthy you cannot be the offensive coordinator here and you need to hire a new offensive staff and if mike zimmer left you'd have t....er mike mccarthy here as coordinators..

All the irony here right I get the state and opinion that's no more factual than yours you wanna think that because you think that Mike McCarthy special I mean I thought we were all out on Mike McCarthy last year and thought that Jerry was stupid for keeping him another year and yet now after he parts ways now you're saying there's a conspiracy in that McCarthy made this decision show me to proof.

80% of what goes on around here is all hyperbole rhetoric it's diatribes it's full of opinions it's full of nonsense and that's just what keeps us interested in coming back 'cause we like to have these flame wars that's what they used to call them Yep I'm that old these debates are nothing factual these are opinions, you have 0 proof on your statement we need one party to say what the truth is and the other one to verify it's correct if not it's just same old Internet...

 

[charron]

And he has to offer more money than other legit organizations that are actually trying to win.

Well he wasn't paying mike anything close to a big contract for coaches. The top 10 highest paid coaches average 14/year while mike made 6. Jerry likes a veteran coach with no options, Mike wasn't being pursued last time and took the 1st job to make an offer. Jerry thought he could put Mikes contract up against free agency and low ball him again, and it failed.

 

[links18]

The front office is run like a drunken family business.

That's exactly what it is...

 

[_sturt_]

They are overwhelmingly reactive.

No offense, but this is just a blatantly absurd comment to make... all of professional sports is overwhelmingly reactive. You can't make smart "proactive" decisions until it is mortally tangibly possible to know what the variables in-play are... who's injured or not... who's had recent success or failure... who's contractually available or not... which competitors have decided to be aggressive during free agency, and which have not... which competitors are looking for what positions in the draft...

And by the time you do know, it's not "proactive" any more. Naturally. So, it's not excuse making, it's logic. Cold hard logic.

 

[fivetwos]

Actually he didn't isn't that funny how we could say whatever we want and it's supposed to be factual just because you said it no when Mike McCarthy comes out and says it let me know but all the rumors coming out said it was just years not money not anything else that held up the deal and I find that untrue because nobody has verified it with either party that was involved which by the way is the only way to get real facts when you're using the Internet and when you're using your feelings and what you feel happened it doesn't make it true it probably makes it further from the truth than you think..

I know what happened Jerry wanted Mike McCarthy on a shorter deal because it was gonna be a short leash and if he really wanted Mike back he would have gave him the long term deal so it technically when the owner doesn't concede to the demands of the possible head coach that would be the owner making the decision that's how it works if he wanted Mike McCarthy bad enough and it was just years he would've gave him what he wanted but Jerry did not want Mike McCarthy long term without a way out when he fails it has to be fired mid season or after one year which happens around the NFL Jerry didn't wanna be in that position that's my opinion but I think the real holdout was not years it was not money Jerry wanted to dictate Mike McCarthy's offensive staff most likely because he didn't like what's been going on on offense and neither did I I'm betting he was telling Mike McCarthy you cannot be the offensive coordinator here and you need to hire a new offensive staff and if mike zimmer left you'd have t....er mike mccarthy here as coordinators..

All the irony here right I get the state and opinion that's no more factual than yours you wanna think that because you think that Mike McCarthy special I mean I thought we were all out on Mike McCarthy last year and thought that Jerry was stupid for keeping him another year and yet now after he parts ways now you're saying there's a conspiracy in that McCarthy made this decision show me to proof.

80% of what goes on around here is all hyperbole rhetoric it's diatribes it's full of opinions it's full of nonsense and that's just what keeps us interested in coming back 'cause we like to have these flame wars that's what they used to call them Yep I'm that old these debates are nothing factual these are opinions, you have 0 proof on your statement we need one party to say what the truth is and the other one to verify it's correct if not it's just same old Internet...

Interesting how you tell everyone else how they don’t know anything because they weren’t there, then adamantly state exactly what happened.

Please, enlighten us how thats possible.

 

[Zman5]

Someone tell Jerry, not everyone is desperate like Garrett was. Not everyone is going to get on their knees and beg and camp out in front of Jerry's office for a week before getting kicked out.