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[PA Cowboy Fan]

Me too, I got to see the Glory years...
I am too loyal to leave.
But what's keeping these young fans?

I don't know what's keeping them. If i didn't grow up with the Cowboys I would have left years ago.

 

[Gambit]

I'll post what the hell I want here. If you don't like it then hit ignore. This is a message board the last time I checked and none of us are happy this morning. \

Kick rocks

I'll post what I want don't like it hit ignore. Kick rocks.


Did I do it right?

 

[J_Allen]

I'll post what I want don't like it hit ignore. Kick rocks.


Did I do it right?

You replied to me, Rowdy.

 

[john van brocklin]

I don't know what's keeping them. If i didn't grow up with the Cowboys I would have left years ago.

You , me and all us oldtimers i suppose...

 

[rocknrobcowboy]

As Jimmy Johnson said : This team is run like a Country Club and not a Football Team.
The concern from the owner down to the players seems to more about money/brand than about winning.
I am sure a few player care, but not enough of them.
There seems to be no personal pride, no swagger.
Where are the Michael Irvin leaders on this team?
The GM has cared more about his comfort level with the HC , hiring weak, unqualified HCs since Jimmy left except the big Tuna.
This Franchise has been a disaster the last 28 years, and it because Jerry is constantly pumping sunshine instead of making winning the priority.
Their is no accountability from the GM on down.
What a sad state of affairs this once proud team has fallen to.

Jerry "THE JOKE" Jones = "The Clown Show"

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Salary cap.

Jimmy couldn't repeat it in Miami.

And I'll say it again. He was there 4 years and made the playoffs in 3 of them. Miami was Marino's team. Jimmy didn't have the power he had with Dallas. He needed to move on from him and rebuild. But I'll take Jimmy's 4 years at Miami to Jerry's 28 in Dallas any day.

 

[Gambit]

You replied to me, Rowdy.

And yet you keep responding. Do you need a hug?

 

[NumOneQB]

Starts at the top. Dysfunctional front office on down.

 

[john van brocklin]

Salary cap.

Jimmy couldn't repeat it in Miami.

There were many reason why Jimmy could not repeat it in Miami.
He did have have all the draft picks from the H. Walker trade being the biggest one.
All my other points still stand.
Eye for talent
Eye for the vision of the future
Accountability.

 

[john van brocklin]

Starts at the top. Dysfunctional front office on down.

 

[john van brocklin]

Jerry "THE JOKE" Jones = "The Clown Show"

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

There were many reason why Jimmy could not repeat it in Miami.
He did have have all the draft picks from the H. Walker trade being the biggest one.
All my other points still stand.
Eye for talent
Eye for the vision of the future
Accountability.

Ok Jimmy had those and it still didn't work. You're making my point.

There's no such thing as a good GM.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

And I'll say it again. He was there 4 years and made the playoffs in 3 of them. Miami was Marino's team. Jimmy didn't have the power he had with Dallas. He needed to move on from him and rebuild. But I'll take Jimmy's 4 years at Miami to Jerry's 28 in Dallas any day.

I'm sorry I thought it was about winning Super Bowls. Or in Jerry's case, going to championship games.

Why is simply making the playoffs some barometer of success now?

 

[john van brocklin]

Ok Jimmy had those and it still didn't work. You're making my point.

There's no such thing as a good GM.

He did not have the Walker draft picks, which he had the foresight to trade for in Dallas.
I am not making your point in anyway.
If you feel that a GM does not matter, there is no reason to continue this discussion.
If you notice, no one here is defending you ill advised position.
I would think you would take notice of that.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I'm sorry I thought it was about winning Super Bowls. Or in Jerry's case, going to championship games.

Why is simply making the playoffs some barometer of success now?

Jimmy was there for 4 years. If he was there for 20 maybe you would have a point.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Jimmy was there for 4 years. If he was there for 20 maybe you would have a point.

No. You are saying that making the playoffs is some type of acceptable measure of success.

 

[john van brocklin]

I'm sorry I thought it was about winning Super Bowls. Or in Jerry's case, going to championship games.

Why is simply making the playoffs some barometer of success now?

It is some measure of success.
It certainly shows he was no failure , he just did not have the same success as in Dallas.
A single is not a failure , just not as great as a homerun.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

He did not have the Walker draft picks, which he had the foresight to trade for in Dallas.
I am not making your point in anyway.
If you feel that a GM does not matter, there is no reason to continue this discussion.
If you notice, no one here is defending you ill advised position.
I would think you would take notice of that.

Yes you are lol.

Jimmy was very good at all those things you mentioned, and it still failed in Miami. Him not having the Walker picks is my point about luck lol. It's not like he drafted Walker with a design to trade him.

There are GMs and there are bad GMs. Good ones get that label because they get lucky. Is Brett Veach a terrific GM? No, he just lucked into Mahomes.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

No. You are saying that making the playoffs is some type of acceptable measure of success.

It is some success. It isn't the end all. And it was much harder to make the playoffs back then than it is now.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

It is some measure of success.
It certainly shows he was no failure , he just did not have the same success as in Dallas.
A single is not a failure , just not as great as a homerun.

Ok then by that standard the Cowboys have been a success in the last 5 years, and we shouldn't be trying to move on.