Dak contract clarification

[Chasing6]

Obviously no one wanted to trade for Dak before the draft.

We could have used those picks. 8)

We still need more cap space.

The team is in the red.

Either someone gets a June 1 cut, or we start extending contracts?

You are correct, Jerry did not want to trade Dak.

I wonder how many Trance calls he received? ZERO.

 

[Verdict]

I guess you can keep thinking your emotions are leverage. Keep thinking he can be traded with a no trade clause. Keep thinking he is going to be cut. Or keep thinking they are going to bench him. Good luck with that.

I have no idea what is going to happen with Dak. But if Dak has as much leverage as the Dak Fan Bois think he has the Cowboys would have already bowed down and backed up the Brinks truck for Dak.

Do you think that Dak has the power to force the Cowboys to keep him around after this year? Hint: That’s a negative ghost rider, the pattern is full.

I think Dak’s failures to perform are finally catching up with him. He might have to retire or buy a mansion in another city soon. lol.

 

[Chasing6]

That is not true and your numbers are pure eyewash.

Right now for the 2025 season we have only 40 players under contract. Players with a void year (they wont play for us anymore) are Prescott, DFlaw, Zack Martin and Cooks. You have to replace those positions.

Why do you think we will use this year to clean most of our depts ? Because we are in such a good shape ?

Seriously i understand that you are trying to keep hope up. But please be real.

Nope is not a strategy.

 

[fivetwos]

One thing I don’t understand…..

How can there be a clause that the team can’t tag him when the contract that contains those words will have expired?

Contract term has expired, so the language within it has as well.

Obviously I’m missing something since it was approved by the league but I don’t get it.

 

[TwentyOne]

Dallas replaced those players this year with Kneeland, Beebe, and Flournoy.

Make all of the players you mentioned June 1st cuts and Dallas adds another 17 million to cap for a total of 93 million in 2025 to sign their own or other free agents.

The 79 or 93 million is more than enough to complete the roster.

Come on man. Of course you can complete a roster. Thats never in doubt. Question is what kind of roster.

Be a bit more real here. You seriously think Kneeland is going to replace DFlaw right away ?
Beebe is going to replace a missing player (mostly center) this year. He wont be able to replace another one next year. As much as id like him to be able to.
And let those lower round draft picks first make the 53 man roster before you title them as replacements for Pro Bowl players.

And i dont see how you add 17 mils by making those 3 players post june cuts ? For instance by making martin a post june 1 cut you will add 15 mils dead cap in 2025.

 

[JustChip]

Everyone's measuring money versus championships big playoff games there's a whole lot of good to great quarterbacks in this league that are making as much or more money than Prescott they should all be cut why are you selling them if you're what a player that's in an NFC championship game or an AFC championship game or the Super bowl on a regular basis and that's how you're being judged there's a whole bunch of guys a lot of them below Prescott but still in the top ten of the money they have not done squat in the playoffs... I mean technically it Daniel Jones AV was the same as Prescott I mean just take that in for a minute.. I mean we gotta stop using the money as your measuring stick I realize the contact affects the roster but not having a good quarterback will affect the roster even more.. All these other teams have found a way to pay their quarterbacks even though they're not winning Super Bowls and they're not consistently getting into the championship games and still build their rosters to be competitive let's stop blaming Prescott I mean we blamed Romo and I mean we give some credit to Danny white and he wasn't even as good as either one of those quarterbacks that's my opinion so yes I get both sides of the argument but this team could be severely hampered for the next five years by cutting Prescott without his successor..

And I'm gonna keep saying this every time we bring up quarterbacks 95 quarterbacks have been drafted since 2016 and only one that would be Patrick mahomes have won Super Bowls and many hasn't even won more than two playoff games I mean look at this two time MVP in my opinion Lamar Jackson's overrated yes he's a very good quarterback I'll give you that he should be a starter but he's making big time money and he's two and five in the playoffs... The team records the success or non success in the playoffs can't be hung on quarterbacks it's a team concept..

I'm not saying we should pay the man $60 million but I think we should be open to letting him test the market if we don't sign in this year but try to bring him back let him go see how much other teams are willing to pay and then then match it maybe he'll stay make it all guaranteed that's what guys want nowadays if you give them a smaller contract they'll make it 100% guaranteed it could work out as a win win for both sides and nobody has ever verified 60 million was the number I think if you can get him to sign for around 50 and give it to him all guaranteed like three years 150 why not I mean everybody's really in a hurry to get bad at quarterback.

My comment about $ isn’t about what he’s making relative to his peers, nor is relation to whether he’s led a team to a CG or SB. It’s simply whether a different option would bring better results in the overall context of the team. That’s certainly open for debate, especially with the question whether this ownership group has the ability to construct a SB winning team.

By the way, the same goes for CeeDee, Micah and every other player.

My biggest point in my response to the poster was that Dak IS part of the problem. Why? Because he’s part of the team. The same was true for Romo. It’s a team game, not an individual player game.

 

[TwentyOne]

One thing I don’t understand…..

How can there be a clause that the team can’t tag him when the contract that contains those words will have expired?

Contract term has expired, so the language within it has as well.

Obviously I’m missing something since it was approved by the league but I don’t get it.

well idk either but i guess you have to tag him essentially before the beginning of the new season/expiration of his old contract and so he is still under contract.

 

[fivetwos]

well idk either but i guess you have to tag him essentially before the beginning of the new season/expiration of his old contract and so he is still under contract.

Ok thx. The tag deadline must be before the start of the league year. So the team has to let that deadline pass, then he is free once the league year kicks in.

 

[CowboyoWales]

My comment about $ isn’t about what he’s making relative to his peers, nor is relation to whether he’s led a team to a CG or SB. It’s simply whether a different option would bring better results in the overall context of the team. That’s certainly open for debate, especially with the question whether this ownership group has the ability to construct a SB winning team.

By the way, the same goes for CeeDee, Micah and every other player.

My biggest point in my response to the poster was that Dak IS part of the problem. Why? Because he’s part of the team. The same was true for Romo. It’s a team game, not an individual player game.

Yep, again if we can't agree atm and Dak wants to hit FA, let's have a 'trial seperation'... cut him PRE-JUNE ....Jerry can offer some of the $29m cash he'd be saving

 

[RxMan]

Mirky world and i may be wrong, but .....I'll have a go.
Don't worry about the specific individual Void Years ....they were created when allocating the restructuring (adding a year increases the divisible amount).
Pre June = $66m hit (2024) 0 (2025)
Post June = $26m (2024) + $40m (2025)
Play out contract = $55m + $40m (2025

Is there an option to play out this year and do a post June 2025?

 

[TwentyOne]

Is there an option to play out this year and do a post June 2025?

no. he is not under contract in 25.

 

[TwentyOne]

So best cut him before June to take the full hit this year then crack on with 2025.

yes, but we have no space for that this year. and then you need a qb afterwards.

 

[5Stars]

Jerry has zero leverage.

WTH? Jerry has no leverage? He owns the damn team, he has all the leverage he wants. Dak does not own the team, although his lovers think he does. Jerry has zero leverage, how stupid is that.

 

[4lifecowboy]

If and when Dak decides to leave, you go ahead and believe it was Jerry's decision.

Oh, Dak clearly would prefer to have his extension already and has stated he wanted to be a Cowboy, so it is Jerry deciding rather he wants Dak, not vice versa.

 

[5Stars]

Oh, Dak clearly would prefer to have his extension already and has stated he wanted to be a Cowboy, so it is Jerry deciding rather he wants Dak, not vice versa.

These Dak fans are getting so nervous that now they are thinking that Jerry has no say so about HIS team, not Dak's team.

 

[CowboyoWales]

So best cut him before June to take the full hit this year then crack on with 2025.

Yep, if the 'negotiations' are getting nowhere (for whatever reason) and Dak's holding the 'card' that he's going to hit free agency I can't see ANY reason to keep him, especially as Jerry can save himself $29m.

I don't see any team that would trade a decent draft pick for Dak, two of the potential/probable trade partners just drafted QB in Rd1. Possibly the Raiders but are they serious contenders?

There's no benefit to the team of Post-June(ing), it'll only bite into next years CAP.

 

[JustChip]

Yep, again if we can't agree atm and Dak wants to hit FA, let's have a 'trial seperation'... cut him PRE-JUNE ....Jerry can offer some of the $29m cash he'd be saving

That doesn’t seem wise to me. Unless they know absolutely that Lance can be a serviceable replacement. Makes way more sense to simply let him play out the contract and have another year to evaluate Lance, or another option.

However, I think it’s moot. I’ll be very surprised if they don’t work out an extension. The question will be for how long and what are the conditions. A no-trade clause would be a deal breaker if I was negotiating.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Why would anyone want to get rid of an All Pro QB?

For a playoff win?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

As of now Dak has 100% leverage........he's a free agent next March and there isn't damn thing Jerry can do about it other than pay him what he wants. Otherwise, he will walk.....So he will decide whether or not the Cowboys extend him not the other way around.

That's the cold reality Jerry has backed himself into with Dak's contract..........

Nope. Not correct. Just have to have the courage to move on if that's what's decided. Lotta teams do it.

 

[America's Cowboy]

For a playoff win?

It's happened before and will again with a better team, better run game and better play designs.