Dak is Delusional

NotForLong

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Dak is getting high on his own supply.
He's under the illusion or delusion that he is an Elite QB.
He doesn't understand or refuses to understand that Jerry can't and doesn't want to lock up the cap for a QB that has failed to produce any playoff success.
If he signs him to a long term deal not only will it affect the ability to sign or resign players, it will be a disaster too if the team doesn't have any playoff sucess this season.
The fans will be ready to move on from him and resent Dak and Jerry for doing the deal.
Dak isn't a Force Multiplier type QB where he helps elevate the talent around him. He requires superior talent around him to succeed.
Having Dak at such a high cap rate will hurt in getting the talent necessary to help him succeed. So Jerry doesn't want to commit himself to Dak and continue to be a mid level team. He will likely want to go the route of acquiring and keeping superior talent while having a QB who doesn't eat up so much cap space and could possibly give you the same or better results than Dak.
Jerry created this monster the way they have handled him with Kid Gloves. Romo was not allowed to compete. Every year we heard he was "Improving" it's a "Process" No one could criticize him if they did , they were off the team. Local media were forced to be on board or feel the wrath of Jerry

Now He is delusional. Well duh
 

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Second in MVP last year. Even most of the best QB's require great talent around them. Other then Mahomes, which other top QB's doesn't have top talent around them?? Hurts?? Burrows, Tua? Shroud? Purdy?? Goff?? They all have Elite talent around them.
All those others you mentioned Save Tua have had playoff success . Chokota Boasts the WORST Playoff % in NFL HISTORY . Get off his jock !! Chokota blows and if you can't see that, you probably dont know much about Football eye test .
 

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Tua isn't worth Tua money.

Dak isn't worth Tua money.

You don't buy a double wide for the price of a mansion.

The Dolphins and whatever team signs Dak will be loser.
Exactly. People think that saying that Dak isn't worth it somehow automatically means that all the rest of these QB's are worth it as well. The only ones on that list even worth that big payout is Mahomes and Burrow. One horrible contract shouldn't mean that now you try and top it by offering a bigger bad contract.
 

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Exactly. People think that saying that Dak isn't worth it somehow automatically means that all the rest of these QB's are worth it as well. The only ones on that list even worth that big payout is Mahomes and Burrow. One horrible contract shouldn't mean that now you try and top it by offering a bigger bad contract.
It's the same logic as the "Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson hasn't won anything!"

Dak fans logic is this: It's okay for Dak to fail because other teams QBs fail also.
 

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I'm a Dak hater.

But I understand that he will reset the market when he signs.

It won't be in Dallas, thankfully, but there will be a team (probably Vegas or Giants) that will be dumb enough to reset the market for him.

He's not elite. He's not even very good. That will become clear when he leaves Dallas.
I think saying he isn't an elite QB is pretty harsh.

There's like 8 billion people in the world...and theres only 18 to 20 people alive who are better at playing QB than he is. That's amazing!

Unfortunately....all 18 or 20 of those people currently play in the NFL too. I wish they'd leave and become plumbers or electricians instead. Then we might win something
 

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Every team has talent around them, it's the NFL, not XFL... :facepalm:
Let me dumb it down for you. I was responding to thread starter who said, Dak needs talent around him to succeed. Like he is the only QB that needs it. Duh
 

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Dak is getting high on his own supply.
He's under the illusion or delusion that he is an Elite QB.
He doesn't understand or refuses to understand that Jerry can't and doesn't want to lock up the cap for a QB that has failed to produce any playoff success.
If he signs him to a long term deal not only will it affect the ability to sign or resign players, it will be a disaster too if the team doesn't have any playoff sucess this season.
The fans will be ready to move on from him and resent Dak and Jerry for doing the deal.
Dak isn't a Force Multiplier type QB where he helps elevate the talent around him. He requires superior talent around him to succeed.
Having Dak at such a high cap rate will hurt in getting the talent necessary to help him succeed. So Jerry doesn't want to commit himself to Dak and continue to be a mid level team. He will likely want to go the route of acquiring and keeping superior talent while having a QB who doesn't eat up so much cap space and could possibly give you the same or better results than Dak.
All this might be true but one thing is for sure, this is creating major distractions. Usually when there are major distractions in Dallas, it ends up being a bad year. Add this to the pitiful offseason and it’s really looking like it’s going to be a bad year. Oh yeah, HC is also a lame duck, that isn’t good either and another distraction.
 

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Dak is getting high on his own supply.
He's under the illusion or delusion that he is an Elite QB.
He doesn't understand or refuses to understand that Jerry can't and doesn't want to lock up the cap for a QB that has failed to produce any playoff success.
If he signs him to a long term deal not only will it affect the ability to sign or resign players, it will be a disaster too if the team doesn't have any playoff sucess this season.
The fans will be ready to move on from him and resent Dak and Jerry for doing the deal.
Dak isn't a Force Multiplier type QB where he helps elevate the talent around him. He requires superior talent around him to succeed.
Having Dak at such a high cap rate will hurt in getting the talent necessary to help him succeed. So Jerry doesn't want to commit himself to Dak and continue to be a mid level team. He will likely want to go the route of acquiring and keeping superior talent while having a QB who doesn't eat up so much cap space and could possibly give you the same or better results than Dak.
Two things delusional:
1)Fans thinking Dak isn’t going to get paid. He’s either making 60 here or more than that somewhere else.
2) Fans not seeing that even mid level QBs are getting 50 million. It’s as silly as old people acting like phones don’t cost $1500, or a brand new truck isn’t
$80-100k. It’s 2024, catch up.
 

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How bad do you hate that something you thought had no chance of happening (Dak not getting extended) is going to happen with me, of all people, telling you for a year now that it was going to happen.

The worst possible scenario for you and your 4 pals here is going to happen.

MountaineerCowboy is going to once again be right.
Why do you talk like a Bond villain?
 

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Same boring ish every day. Dak can't win anything substantial. Cowboys are a wack team who bow down to any team over .500 with a pulse.

The salary cap is a false crab in a bucket mentality which Jerry fought hard to create yet he is too inept to navigate.
 

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Dak is getting high on his own supply.
He's under the illusion or delusion that he is an Elite QB.
He doesn't understand or refuses to understand that Jerry can't and doesn't want to lock up the cap for a QB that has failed to produce any playoff success.
If he signs him to a long term deal not only will it affect the ability to sign or resign players, it will be a disaster too if the team doesn't have any playoff sucess this season.
The fans will be ready to move on from him and resent Dak and Jerry for doing the deal.
Dak isn't a Force Multiplier type QB where he helps elevate the talent around him. He requires superior talent around him to succeed.
Having Dak at such a high cap rate will hurt in getting the talent necessary to help him succeed. So Jerry doesn't want to commit himself to Dak and continue to be a mid level team. He will likely want to go the route of acquiring and keeping superior talent while having a QB who doesn't eat up so much cap space and could possibly give you the same or better results than Dak.
if Dak is not the QB, then he is not. we need to move on. he is not Elite. thus just like all other non-elite QBs he needs strong supporting role.

but I disagree with the cap stuff. last year we had 10M left on the cap. the year before 15 and the year before that about 15-20 and that was with Cooper's hit. but Jerry DECIDED not to sign any one. cap is manipulated. and you can open cap space you need. teams who manage the cap well do it all the time. Philly has what? about 5 players who are not top 5 paid.....the pat 3 years Dak's cap hit was 27, 19, 17M. this year, because last year of contract it ballooned. and that's what happens to every team, they push money down the road. then take huge cap hit and then rebuild.

the problem is not Dak or Cap. the problem is Jerry. he is not a good GM. he can never build a good team. he makes mistakes. all the time. he hasn't been able to put a competitive team together in 28 years. his focus is money and increasing franchise value and he has done that, there is no argument there.

as long as Jerry is in charge we will never win a championship.
 

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Meanwhile, Trey Lance is looking sharp at training camp. Jerry needs to take notice and understand there is another way to fill the QB1 role. Do not sink the Cowboys' ability to acquire talent just to sign Dak beyond this season. In the entertainment business, they say "break a leg" to wish for good luck. Break a leg, Dak.
wait. where did you read Trey Lance is looking sharp in camp? everything I have read is exactly the opposite. he may not even be on the team this year...
 

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Dak is getting high on his own supply.
He's under the illusion or delusion that he is an Elite QB.
He doesn't understand or refuses to understand that Jerry can't and doesn't want to lock up the cap for a QB that has failed to produce any playoff success.
If he signs him to a long term deal not only will it affect the ability to sign or resign players, it will be a disaster too if the team doesn't have any playoff sucess this season.
The fans will be ready to move on from him and resent Dak and Jerry for doing the deal.
Dak isn't a Force Multiplier type QB where he helps elevate the talent around him. He requires superior talent around him to succeed.
Having Dak at such a high cap rate will hurt in getting the talent necessary to help him succeed. So Jerry doesn't want to commit himself to Dak and continue to be a mid level team. He will likely want to go the route of acquiring and keeping superior talent while having a QB who doesn't eat up so much cap space and could possibly give you the same or better results than Dak.
so you speak for "The fans?" Millions of Cowboys fans and you think they will all be ready to move on and resent the owner and QB? Now you and many will, but more will not. Just like politics, you cant please everyone.
 

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Dak is getting high on his own supply.
He's under the illusion or delusion that he is an Elite QB.
He doesn't understand or refuses to understand that Jerry can't and doesn't want to lock up the cap for a QB that has failed to produce any playoff success.
If he signs him to a long term deal not only will it affect the ability to sign or resign players, it will be a disaster too if the team doesn't have any playoff sucess this season.
The fans will be ready to move on from him and resent Dak and Jerry for doing the deal.
Dak isn't a Force Multiplier type QB where he helps elevate the talent around him. He requires superior talent around him to succeed.
Having Dak at such a high cap rate will hurt in getting the talent necessary to help him succeed. So Jerry doesn't want to commit himself to Dak and continue to be a mid level team. He will likely want to go the route of acquiring and keeping superior talent while having a QB who doesn't eat up so much cap space and could possibly give you the same or better results than Dak.
I completely agree, there is no reason for any of us fans to think Dak could take this team to the SB. I firmly believe that moving on from Dak and getting a possible "Game Manger" with a good arm is the way to go. Too many other pieces of the pie to address rather than Dak eating up a massive amount of the cap with the same results. We have all witnessed the thousand yard stare from Yak in the playoffs. IMO, I have seen enough of this crap from him.
 
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