Dak Never Comes Up Big

[Adreme]

The QB has the ball in his hands, IT IS HIS JOB. With 4:42 on the clock he had two drives to win it. Your post is picking on contributory factors, but as I keep saying, nothings going to improve in the near future (with big contracts/aging O-Line/limited CAP) so get used to it.....sometimes the QB just has to elevate his game to another level and that happens against the best (in the crucial moments), yes there are contributory factors but it's a regular occurrence: eg 49ers x2 Play-off games.

Im not blaming Dak, he is what he is, he just need's too much assistance to perform in an era that's going to see constraints on our CAP and O-Line that needs overhauling.

What you are saying is obtuse nonsense designed only to try and find a way to cast blame on someone where none clearly exists by using platitudes instead of facts. You might as well have said it’s Dak’s because he didn’t run it to the end zone carrying all 11 defenders on his back.

No QB in the history of the NFL has been able to do what you described because it is a team game. If the line doesn’t block then the offense will fail. If there are no weapons to get open then the offense fails. Finally if the AB can’t get them the ball the offense fails. ALL 3 must work.

Dak, despite one unit massively failing, was still able to make the offense look good. He made the good players look great and the great player look all pro, which is his job.

Meanwhile on the cap, it’s only an issue because the Cowboys refuse to go in. They could very easily sign all of their players and grab some FAs but that would make a window and they don’t want a window, they want to be good every year, which makes them never great because it takes going in to be great.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Dak had 2 miscues all game, but HUGE ones. 1 was stepping out of bunds when he had a fairly easy 2 pt conversion. The other was taking a sack late. Just can't take a sack there. Get rid of it. The Eagles db's are trash. We picked them apart. They are vulnerable. If we can stay healthy, make the playoffs, we might beat them. MM and Dak were great. Its just the 2 miscues or we win.

Yep, maybe two miscues.....but still didnt get the job done, so he didnt do anything wrong, but when needed him he didnt push the envelope.

He had the ball in his hands for two drives to win the game, you cant just overlook that in situations where the clock's ticking and we need a TD he repeatedly comes up short. There may well be other reasons/factors, but if you take yesterday along with: 49ers Playoff 1 / 49ers Playoff 2, there's a trend and the only constant only constant was Dak. Wasnt this the whole idea and plan for this year, we give him a different play caller and a better WR corp and see where the issue lay.

Who care's about miscues or blame or what could of happened, we are what we are and Dak, time after time fails in this very scenario.....moving forward is this the guy that will come through in the same scenario in play-off games when we're facing the better games.....the answer appears a resounding NO. It's like a sprinter, saying he was outstanding for the first 95 meters, but he always seems to fail in the last 5.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Yeah Dak just can't take a sack there. Gotta get rid of it. He held it. other than that, he was why we had a chance. Dak had a clean game and really was slightly better than Hurts was. Moral victories suck, but Dak raised my eyebrows with his clutch accurate throws. Glad we have him. I hate the Eagles and some day, they will hit a wall. I think it will be sweet when they start faltering as the year goes. That said, we must win every game the remainder of the month. Which includes buffalo and Miami. Tyron came out of the game healthy. Thats a surprise. Many will disagree with me. Thats fine, I am a big Mike McCarthy guy after seeing what we can be in his scheme. It just has to be executed. When we do so, we are very difficult to defend. Ceedee is having a monster year. Seems like hes always open.

I dig yo.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You can only do your job. You cant do someone else's job, which is why wins are a team stat and not an individual stat. He made the plays but between the defense, which has had a LOT of resources pumped into it, was basically unable to stop the Eagles most of the game, and the OLine, which forgot how to block, and Gallup's drops, it was just too much to overcome.

As the qb.....dak has to run the offense. Manage the game unlike any other player. He must know the o line having trouble blocking and account for it.

Ceedee cant do it.

 

[G2]

If your takeaway from the philly game is that Prescott didn't do enough, evading all other factors - you might be fit for a circus.

 

[Brax]

"1st and goal at the 6"

Intellectually dishonest.

This is how you know someone's just being a SILLY LITTLE HATER and not a serious human being.


Did we run a play from the 6?

Or was there a false start before the snap that immediately pushed us back to the 11?

But saying "we needed 11 yards and Dak didn't get it done" isn't quite as juicy as saying "we needed 6 yards and Dak didn't get it done", is it?

This is by far the dumbest take yet. Did Dallas have the ball at the 6? Yes is the answer, so who’s dishonest? Dak played one of his best games to date against a better team but he didn’t close it out. Law of averages says it will happen at some point. Stop crying at least this shows he can play a full game, now he just has to learn to win games like this. As JG would say it’s a process.

 

[khiladi]

Rams just lost to GB and Jordan Love, who went 20/26 for 228 yards and TD. Dallas had an INT return for a TD and a safety by the start of the second quarter against the Rams.

Dak fanboys gonna act like things are different..

 

[DogFace]

We are better than Philly. We made mistakes and paid for them. They made mistakes and got lucky.

The refs gave us very little margin for error and we had errors. I think we win in the playoffs at Philly.

 

[khiladi]

This is by far the dumbest take yet. Did Dallas have the ball at the 6? Yes is the answer, so who’s dishonest? Dak played one of his best games to date against a better team but he didn’t close it out. Law of averages says it will happen at some point. Stop crying at least this shows he can play a full game, now he just has to learn to win games like this. As JG would say it’s a process.

Is it really a better team? Their secondary is horrible. 25th on third down and their conversion rate was again awful on last night, giving up third and long over and over again…. 26th in red zone defense. They are third in the league in air yards given up. Slay has a 75% completion target percentage. Dean, their LB didn’t force a single completing going into the game last night. TEs consistently abuse them.

It’s actually a bad sign for them, as they get pressure, but their secondary is always giving up plays and they almost did it again with the multiple penalties.

 

[CowboyoWales]

What you are saying is obtuse nonsense designed only to try and find a way to cast blame on someone where none clearly exists by using platitudes instead of facts. You might as well have said it’s Dak’s because he didn’t run it to the end zone carrying all 11 defenders on his back.

No QB in the history of the NFL has been able to do what you described because it is a team game. If the line doesn’t block then the offense will fail. If there are no weapons to get open then the offense fails. Finally if the AB can’t get them the ball the offense fails. ALL 3 must work.

Dak, despite one unit massively failing, was still able to make the offense look good. He made the good players look great and the great player look all pro, which is his job.

Meanwhile on the cap, it’s only an issue because the Cowboys refuse to go in. They could very easily sign all of their players and grab some FAs but that would make a window and they don’t want a window, they want to be good every year, which makes them never great because it takes going in to be great.

Nothing obtuse saying that yesterday, and two play off loses to the 9ers saw our Offense come up short against the best defenses when trailing and the clock ticking. Agree it's not all his fault, but he's also not the solution (especially at an inflated CAP hit).

Go check the Summers thread about how poor Daks stats are when trailing with >2 mins (and to a lesser, but still awful >4mins). He just doesnt have the composure in such circumstances. Im sure we can put an asterix to every season with an excuse as to why we didnt quite get there.

To win a SB the QB at some point in the Play-offs has to elevate the team and take the team on his shoulder, Dak repeatedly fails in doing this against play-off caliber opposition.

 

[Jarntt]

That's like Dak saying hey I played good until we got into the RedZone. Its not my fault. Everyone makes mistakes but the mistakes Dak is making are multiple mistakes due to no discipline and not recognizing to throw the ball away.

No. It’s not anything like saying that at all. It’s called watching a game objectively and without an agenda. Only a person going into that game looking to blame Dak can even pretend he was the reason we lost

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Dak had 2 miscues all game, but HUGE ones. 1 was stepping out of bunds when he had a fairly easy 2 pt conversion. The other was taking a sack late. Just can't take a sack there. Get rid of it.

The game was lost right there. Four plays from the 11, you have a great chance to win. You take that sack that moves you back to the 26, with no time outs and all the time it burned, and it takes almost a miracle to win.

The instant you feel any pressure, you throw that out of the back of the end zone, everyone collects themselves, and have three more good chances.

What's frustrating is that's not even a question of ability. It's awareness. The sparest backups in the league know that in that situation but Dak didn't or couldn't execute.

 

[Brax]

Is it really a better team? Their secondary is horrible. 25th on third down and their conversion rate was again awful on last night, giving up third and long over and over again…. 26th in red zone defense. They are third in the league in air yards given up. Slay has a 75% completion target percentage. Dean, their LB didn’t force a single completing going into the game last night. TEs consistently abuse them.

It’s actually a bad sign for them, as they get pressure, but their secondary is always giving up plays and they almost did it again with the multiple penalties.

No debate on your points but somehow Philly finds a way to win. At some point it will bite them.

 

[CowboyoWales]

No. It’s not anything like saying that at all. It’s called watching a game objectively and without an agenda. Only a person going into that game looking to blame Dak can even pretend he was the reason we lost

It's not about blaming him for the loss, it's that he's repeatedly showing that he's not the guy who wins such games (factor in SF Play-Off games 1 and 2). He's not the problem, but he's not the solution.

 

[Adreme]

Nothing obtuse saying that yesterday, and two play off loses to the 9ers saw our Offense come up short against the best defenses when trailing and the clock ticking. Agree it's not all his fault, but he's also not the solution (especially at an inflated CAP hit).

Go check the Summers thread about how poor Daks stats are when trailing with >2 mins (and to a lesser, but still awful >4mins). He just doesnt have the composure in such circumstances. Im sure we can put an asterix to every season with an excuse as to why we didnt quite get there.

To win a SB the QB at some point in the Play-offs has to elevate the team and take the team on his shoulder, Dak repeatedly fails in doing this against play-off caliber opposition.

You are being obtuse because you are intentionally using vague unquantifiable words as the basis of your argument. I can easily argue Dak elevated those around him yesterday. It would not be a tough argument to make.

The thing is I think you know that which is why you are trying to shift the conversation away from yesterday because by your own vague criteria Dak easily met it. I think you are trying to argue wins as a QB stat but we both know that’s a low football IQ take that makes no sense so you are trying to dance around it with vague terms.

 

[khiladi]

No debate on your points but somehow Philly finds a way to win. At some point it will bite them.

Lucky 8-1 team. They aren’t winning the SB either with this secondary. The playoffs are a toss up as of now in the NFC.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

KEEP RIDING THE DAK TRAIN AND THAT IT’S NOT HIS FAULT! THE COWBOYS WILL AGAIN BE WHAT THEY ARE ALMOST EVERY YEAR, AT BEST A WILD CARD TEAM WITH A 1ST OR 2ND ROUND DEPARTURE IN THE PLAYOFFS! AND IT’S NOT ON DAK, HE’S TRYING! PLEASE!

and you have no other solutions to the Dak problem you keep complaining about.

also, don't forget, this has been Cowboys history for 28+ years. Romo came up short multiple times. and prior to that who ever was at the helm.

 

[khiladi]

It's not about blaming him for the loss, it's that he's repeatedly showing that he's not the guy who wins such games (factor in SF Play-Off games 1 and 2). He's not the problem, but he's not the solution.

Please bro. Dak is the problem sucks…. these are the same guys saying that Hurts choked the SB away because of 1 mistake. When it comes to year 8 QB in a dumb down offense, it’s everybody else’s fault as Dak was able to convert 3 and longs against one of the worst secondaries in the league..

 

[Rayman70]

Lucky 8-1 team. They aren’t winning the SB either with this secondary. The playoffs are a toss up as of now in the NFC.

agree basically, except the refs seem 2 want the Eagles in a SB. Its very clear. If we have seen anything the last few weeks its the refs look the other way with them many times. They badly want a KC vs Eagles rematch.. We must overcome the flags to change this.

 

[lukemartin79]

We can say this or that lost the game for the Cowboys but AGAIN, it comes down to the QB making a play when you need it most and for some reason, Dak seems to always fall short and it’s not for lack of effort, he just doesn’t get it done. 1st and goal on the six to WIN the game and we don’t score? I partly blame Dak but mostly however in this spot, McCarthy you would think would have a golden play or 2 in the back of his head just for such a time in a big game. NOPE!!

BE FAIR. Dan takes a lot of deserved criticism on this forum, but HE is the reason we were still in this game with a chance to win at the end. Without his play yesterday, that games over in the 3rd QTR. He had really no running game, a RT that should simply not be on the field. He played his *** off, give credit where credit is due. They didn't lose because of him, they actually almost won because of him. BE FAIR