Dak's No Trade Clause

[Diehardblues]

While I agree that part of the negotiations with Dak to lower his 2023 cap hit (and yes, Dak will be restructured) should have a mandatory removal of the previous no-trade clause Jerry & Co. will cave as there is no way Dak allows that to happen and there is no way Jerry & Co. have the stones to let Dak play the 2023 season under his current cap number.

There you have it.

So, what do we do if our ownership has hamstrung our options with our QB. I know . Let’s keep bashing our QB . He obviously has held a gun to our owners head. Lol

Or we could focus our attention on bashing the one truly responsible for our situation .

 

[buddahjoe445]

Cut Dak, sign Jimmy g and backload his deal. Team has no balls though so expect an extension.

If you tell Dak he will sit on the bench he will waive his no trade clause in a heartbeat. Guys like Dak think too much of themselves to sit on the bench then waste a year of their career collecting garbage stats. I don't think his no trade clause is a big hurdle in getting rid of Dak. The problem is Jerry and his idiot son.

 

[USArmyVet]

There you have it.

So, what do we do if our ownership has hamstrung our options with our QB. I know . Let’s keep bashing our QB . He obviously has held a gun to our owners head. Lol

Or we could focus our attention on bashing the one truly responsible for our situation .

Jerry & Co. most certainly should be bashed for the bad contracts handed out and the mindset of 'just keep the team relevant'. That said, the players who receive those large contracts need to be held accountable as well for they are the ones that made the demands and ultimately signed the deals.

The sad thing is this organization has stunk from the top down for nearly 30 years.

 

[CowboyRoy]

How many years of horrible QB's did the Bengals have before Burrow? In order to upgrade anything start picking and don't stop till you get one. Stop wasting time with a spare.

So dump every qb that isn’t a burrows until you find one? Lol

Talk about a waste of time.

The bengals are a text book example of how your elite qb grow on trees theory is garbage.

 

[CowboyRoy]

This^^^^

Most Cowboy fans would love to have an Elite QB. Unfortunately there simply isn’t enough to go around 32 teams.

All we can do is make the best of a situation our ownership and front office provide. And that’s where the criticism should ultimately rest.

We are in a good situation. We have a qb better than 70% of the nfl. And a young defense. Need to keep building.

 

[CouchCoach]

One thing those not happy with the present QB situation should consider is that a change could be for the worse.

Do you want people that tried to trade up for Lynch and would have taken Cook and lucked into Prescott drafting his replacement?

They lucked into the last two starting QB’s, think that luck will hold in the draft?

 

[mahoneybill]

Jerry & Co. most certainly should be bashed for the bad contracts handed out and the mindset of 'just keep the team relevant'. That said, the players who receive those large contracts need to be held accountable as well for they are the ones that made the demands and ultimately signed the deals.

The sad thing is this organization has stunk from the top down for nearly 30 years.

So true re 30 years...... Thats a lifetime in the NFL and shows the futility of “ we like our guys” thinking. Been a fan since the 60’s so lived through the “ close enough, next years champions”, glory of Rodger S, hopes for Danny W with NFC championship losses, then finally Jimmy J and “ glory days"

Jerry J deserves a lot of blame for the current drought foolishly thinking “ 500 coaches” mentality.... Barry S won because the Pittsburgh QB committed turnovers, and there was enough left of the triplets to finally beat the Steelers.

Hopefully we see McCarthy with his taking over playcalling taking us back to at least an NFC championship to rekindle some of those old flames.........

Quinn with a few pieces certainly has shown he can field a very competitive D...

 

[Nav22]

Your life isn't too bright either!! Eagle lover

My 6-year-old nephew can spell Santa Claus.

You couldn't spell Santa Claus.

Shame on you.

 

[Sarge]

Jerry and Stephen are fully invested in Dak. He’s marketable as heck and just won man of the year. He’s gonna be here for another 6 years or so barring a massive nosedive or career threatening injury.

Yyyyyyep.

 

[mardwin]

What a weird comment.

You say "this team" as if we're loaded with talent outside the QB position on offense. Um, we aren't. Lamb and Pollard are studs... yeah, that's about it.

Who should be the starter if not Dak? I don't think KC is trading us Mahomes.

4-1 against the Bengals, Giants, Commanders, Rams, and Eagles. 3 of those teams made the playoffs and 3 of those games were on the road. So whatever argument you think you are making in favor of Dak is just smoke because there's supporting evidence the team is ripe for winning with a real QB.

 

[Nav22]

4-1 against the Bengals, Giants, Commanders, Rams, and Eagles. 3 of those teams made the playoffs and 3 of those games were on the road. So whatever argument you think you are making in favor of Dak is just smoke because there's supporting evidence the team is ripe for winning with a real QB.

What's your point exactly?

Dak's good, but he's not elite. Nobody's against an upgrade at QB. We all want the next Mahomes.

The question is HOW do we do that?

Crying like a ___ about how Dak isn't Mahomes doesn't do anything. What's your solution?

Until we have an upgrade, Dak's the best we've got. And he's still better than most QBs.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

I’ll keep saying it Jerry isn’t moving on from Dak until he has a better option at the position.

Jerry wouldn't know what better option to look for (which are tons). If he did, he wouldn't have given Dak the contract he did.

 

[USArmyVet]

What's your point exactly?

Dak's good, but he's not elite. Nobody's against an upgrade at QB. We all want the next Mahomes.

The question is HOW do we do that?

Crying like a ___ about how Dak isn't Mahomes doesn't do anything. What's your solution?

Until we have an upgrade, Dak's the best we've got. And he's still better than most QBs.

Jerry & Co. seem to embrace the status quo too much at the QB position. They did the same thing with Romo as they are doing with Dak. Perhaps because after Aikman they saw the poor play at QB for many years so when Romo came along they gave him a big contract based on 'hope' and then after his injuries and Dak played well his rookie season they did the same thing with the new contract for Dak.

While of course it would be easier to get rid of Dak if they knew they had a better replacement you would think Jerry, being the 'gambler', would roll the dice and find another QB via the draft or otherwise.

The fact is yes, Dak is the QB of Dallas and will be for the next few seasons at a minimum but we have seen what Dak brings after 7 seasons and for many it is time to move on....and that takes a gamble in finding a replacement.

 

[KJJ]

Jerry wouldn't know what better option to look for (which are tons). If he did, he wouldn't have given Dak the contract he did.

How about listing the tons of better options than Dak? Some of you think good QBs grow on trees and are available everywhere. Lol

 

[TheSport78]

i was thinking about this today. What iF Dak took a pay cut ALA brady and others to field a better team around him say 4 years 25 mil per season at 100m GUARANTEED at 25m a season fully guaranteed he's set for next 4 years IF he wins superbowl in 4 years with good team around him he can negotiate again at 34 years old break the bank and if he does not he's made 200m+ over course of this Career Not to mention the other millions he's made off endorsements. put in a Trade Clause where Dak can Opt out if team does not spend the cap to fill a team around him.

I don't care how much money he's making; HE NEEDS TO GO.

 

[Nav22]

Jerry & Co. seem to embrace the status quo too much at the QB position. They did the same thing with Romo as they are doing with Dak. Perhaps because after Aikman they saw the poor play at QB for many years so when Romo came along they gave him a big contract based on 'hope' and then after his injuries and Dak played well his rookie season they did the same thing with the new contract for Dak.

While of course it would be easier to get rid of Dak if they knew they had a better replacement you would think Jerry, being the 'gambler', would roll the dice and find another QB via the draft or otherwise.

The fact is yes, Dak is the QB of Dallas and will be for the next few seasons at a minimum but we have seen what Dak brings after 7 seasons and for many it is time to move on....and that takes a gamble in finding a replacement.

Why can't you be this reasonable all the time?

Fair points, but I'd argue that the risk/reward in tossing Dak aside and drafting another QB simply isn't worth it.

The odds of finding an elite QB, especially without a high draft pick, are VERY slim.

And EVEN IF we somehow landed an elite QB, a clear upgrade from Dak, that doesn't guarantee you anything. Aaron Rodgers was as elite as they come, and he's been to 1 Super Bowl in 15 years as a starter.

Best bet for now is to try to make it work with Dak. Surround him with weapons, just like Philly, SF and Cincy have done for their QBs.

I'm fine with drafting a QB if there's someone out there whose potential we love.

But tossing Dak aside without a clear upgrade ready to step in? Nah. Not worth the gamble.

 

[blueblood70]

It's pretty inevitable that Jerry is going to extend Dak. Between his 2023 cap hit being untenable and being able to cite two playoff births and one win (I know it's not good enough for us but it is for Jerry) since signing the deal, it's going to happen. I don't know much about the contract process but I'm curious if they can nix that no trade clause when they do an extension/restructure, or does it stay in automatically?

I guess it's pretty counterintuitive to think that Jerry would trade Dak when he will almost certainly extend him, but it would be nice if the FO at least had the option, especially if they can somehow luck into a good QB in the draft since it sounds like QB will finally become a priority in the draft again. I do think that the second Jerry has any sort of a health scare that we may see the urgency to win ramp up considerably and he may actually consider trying to upgrade at the QB position, especially if we have another one and done playoff year. Or maybe just wishful thinking on my part.

hes top 10 qb and when healthy no losing seasons and been to the playoffs 4 of his 6 seasons. man we sure will get tired of making the playoffs and competing for divisions. Lets take huge step back and start over , sure for how long? 18 teams wish they can find dak type, 4-5 other have payer like dak that leaves very little top 5 or top 2 elite qbs that come around in given decade.

i mean you said it, luck or trip into a qb who can be better immediately like get passed the 2nd round , right that's how it would work, could be another situation we all remember took nearly 12 qbs from Aikman to Romo to find a viable franchise type top 10 qb..

so you rather suck then say over the next 2-3 seasons have shot with a small window on top actually get to an NFCCG
our biggest Issues were OL, Run game, play caller, and "other" dak didn't lose those playoff games on his own we all saw what happened.

give him more physical OL, run game , and hope that you dont have Gallup getting beat on his routes by a defender or Schultz making 2 mental gaffs in one final series of game, the OL and run game down the stretch was not good..

get that shored up bit with say a more physical LG, hope steele comes back sooner then later and is the same played. That coupled with the restructured offense scheme and paly caller we will be fine. this is a team game and Dak didn't let rogers go down in 1minute to set up a game winning FG, commit 14 penalties in 21 , give up 250 on the ground in 18, or make all the mistakes last game.

so the one and dones are hardly a qb issue, yes 2 Ints hurt but could be overcome like weve seen other teams do..

 

[USArmyVet]

Why can't you be this reasonable all the time?

Fair points, but I'd argue that the risk/reward in tossing Dak aside and drafting another QB simply isn't worth it.

The odds of finding an elite QB, especially without a high draft pick, are VERY slim.

And EVEN IF we somehow landed an elite QB, a clear upgrade from Dak, that doesn't guarantee you anything. Aaron Rodgers was as elite as they come, and he's been to 1 Super Bowl in 15 years as a starter.

Best bet for now is to try to make it work with Dak. Surround him with weapons, just like Philly, SF and Cincy have done for their QBs.

I'm fine with drafting a QB if there's someone out there whose potential we love.

But tossing Dak aside without a clear upgrade ready to step in? Nah. Not worth the gamble.

My point is that when drafting a rookie QB in the 1st round a team in essence gives itself 6 years to see what the QB can do in terms of playoff success (5th-year rookie option plus 6th-year franchise tag) which, when compared to the outlandish contracts QB's are getting these days for even being average, to me is a far better approach than handing out a large contract for a QB because of worrying about possibly not finding something equal to average.

 

[Nav22]

My point is that when drafting a rookie QB in the 1st round a team in essence gives itself 6 years to see what the QB can do in terms of playoff success (5th-year rookie option plus 6th-year franchise tag) which, when compared to the outlandish contracts QB's are getting these days for even being average, to me is a far better approach than handing out a large contract for a QB because of worrying about possibly not finding something equal to average.

And then what if that rookie QB sucks? Which is FAR more likely than the rookie QB being elite.

Then you tossed aside a good QB for nothing. And your team is now in the gutter.

There's teams out there that have been searching for a "good QB" for 20+ years.

There's a reason teams don't generally take the approach you're suggesting.

We can draft a QB and see what he's got, THEN get rid of Dak if we like what we see from the youngster. That's a more prudent plan.

In the meantime, give Dak the same caliber of weapons the Eagles gave Hurts and the Bengals gave Burrow. If we can.

 

[USArmyVet]

And then what if that rookie QB sucks? Which is FAR more likely than the rookie QB being elite.

Then you tossed aside a good QB for nothing. And your team is now in the gutter.

There's teams out there that have been searching for a "good QB" for 20+ years.

There's a reason teams don't generally take the approach you're suggesting.

We can draft a QB and see what he's got, THEN get rid of Dak if we like what we see from the youngster. That's a more prudent plan.

In the meantime, give Dak the same caliber of weapons the Eagles gave Hurts and the Bengals gave Burrow. If we can.

Yes but when good isn't enough to get to the Super Bowl why pay good great money? That is the sickness of NFL front offices these days.