Dallas Cowboys’ Kelvin Joseph is a person of interest in Dallas murder investigation

[Pass2Run]

Micheal Irvin stabbed a guy in the neck. Fast forward a couple of years and Mike is now a preacher. Sometimes a piece of human garbage needs that wake up call.

Hey, I voted to cut him.

But I'm with you on the mistakes part.

You can make a mistake and still be a good human, lead a good life, you just have to be the one to turn your life into doing the right things.

All the holier than thou types are hilarious, though.

On the other hand, I can see them keeping him. And I sense the kid has just been brought up the wrong way around the wrong circumstances. That's the part people are also forgetting. These guys are not just young adults, they're very young adults.. And they're human. It's not too late for this guy to turn his life around.

If I'm in charge of cutting him or not, we're gonna sit down and talk, and see where this guy's mind is at. And he's going to sign a contract and maybe even be assigned an off-the-field mentor.

 

[Pass2Run]

But we got a 5th round pick!

Amare Barno here I come, babay!

 

[Reid1boys]

I think it depends on the nature of what was done. A man was murdered. He at the very least knew his friends shot at the guy. But never mind that. He can maybe help the team. Let him play! That's how you guys come across.

I come across the exactvway i always have. If a man is free to work at McDonald's, he's free to work in the nfl. Its that simple. Im not the moral police. If the criminal justice system allows him his freedom, he can do what he wants and work where he wants. Its football, not a school counselor.

 

[Reid1boys]

He thinks he's fostering loyalty. Randy Gregory showed him all about that loyalty.

Screw loyalty. That is now gone for me after Gregory. But, he is young and under contract.

 

[Vtwin]

I'm sure the "Wrong for Death" statue is passing into law at any moment.

I think putting up a statue is going a bit overboard.

 

[speedkilz88]

Goodell is reactive to public opinion. That Rice video changed everything.

Brown didn't have the video to register the strong reaction for people but he was a multiple offender and textbook spouse abuser.

I think the error in our thinking is that Goodell makes these calls in a vacuum and I don't think it works that way. He responds to recommendations from others, partly to give the NFLPA a wider range of targets. I do think he was going to take his investigator's recommendation on Elliott until than panel came back 4-0 and how could he ignore that once that was made public?

And one thing Goodell always has to consider is this isn't about the fans at all. It's about all the others that don't like a bunch of billionaires paying millionaires to play a game.

I think the whole conduct detrimental is bogus. Let the legal system deal with it. Don't go to jail, suit up. Let the individual teams decide what is conduct detrimental.

In defense of Booger sliding a little on this, he keeps Brent, signs Pacman and Hardy, drafts Gregory and Joseph and they still buy tickets and watch the team on TV.

The real question I have is just how much do people care about what that person is like inside their uniform? They still cheer players like Tyreek Hill and Joe Mixon.

Goodell and the panel never talked to the investigator. There is a former prosecutor (one that had to resign from that job for suppressing evidence) in charge and she did not let the investigator come in to the room and basically lied to the panel. This person also has a NYG shrine in her house. That investigator also no longer works for the nfl.

 

[HungryLion]

I think putting up a statue is going a bit overboard.

 

[Runwildboys]

Good catch. Even made me laugh.
Wrongful Death.

Make sure they write that on the "statue".

 

[Runwildboys]

Goodell and the panel never talked to the investigator. There is a former prosecutor (one that had to resign from that job for suppressing evidence) in charge and she did not let the investigator come in to the room and basically lied to the panel. This person also has a NYG shrine in her house. That investigator also no longer works for the nfl.

I was unaware of that other stuff,but I do remember the investigator not being allowed in the meeting.

 

[Jimbo123]

Hey, I voted to cut him.

But I'm with you on the mistakes part.

You can make a mistake and still be a good human, lead a good life, you just have to be the one to turn your life into doing the right things.

All the holier than thou types are hilarious, though.

On the other hand, I can see them keeping him. And I sense the kid has just been brought up the wrong way around the wrong circumstances. That's the part people are also forgetting. These guys are not just young adults, they're very young adults.. And they're human. It's not too late for this guy to turn his life around.

If I'm in charge of cutting him or not, we're gonna sit down and talk, and see where this guy's mind is at. And he's going to sign a contract and maybe even be assigned an off-the-field mentor.

Please. Cut him and be done with him.

 

[Pass2Run]

Lawd, please keep Kelvin Joseph playing football so I don't have to hear any more Boss Man Fat rap videos.

 

[plymkr]

Does anyone else know that KJ posted, or released, his new single "Loves is a drug". No that's not a typo he has Loves and is in the title. The song is not good but the comments that people posted were absolutely brutal. But the song or the comments are not the thing stands out to me. What stands out to me is he released the video the same day as the murder. That's not a good look.

 

[Pass2Run]

Does anyone else know that KJ posted, or released, his new single "Loves is a drug". No that's not a typo he has Loves and is in the title. The song is not good but the comments that people posted were absolutely brutal. But the song or the comments are not the thing stands out to me. What stands out to me is he released the video the same day as the murder. That's not a good look.

I noticed that, too.

At least he published it that day.. probably thought I better get this out now just in case I'm going to the hoosegow.

And, yeah, not a good look.

 

[Vtwin]

I'd never heard any of his music before so I went to Youtube to give him a listen. This is the album that popped up first in my search. Ouch! From the title to the 'O' in Loyalty. Ouch.

 

[Pass2Run]

I'd never heard any of his music before so I went to Youtube to give him a listen. This is the album that popped up first in my search. Ouch! From the title to the 'O' in Loyalty. Ouch.

Loyal until the heat comes knocking.

Isn't it so ironic, though, that he almost certainly snitched?

 

[plymkr]

I'd never heard any of his music before so I went to Youtube to give him a listen. This is the album that popped up first in my search. Ouch! From the title to the 'O' in Loyalty. Ouch.

So there is a used bullet casing in the word Loyalty. See if I was KJ' friend, agent, publicist or whatever I'd get in his ear and tell him to get rid of all that stuff. I remember some lyrics he had that mentioned "being on the grind, all time, with my nine", or something to that effect. Any mention of guns or shooting people needs to get removed. That's going to hurt him in court whether it be criminal or civil.

Yeah it's not good optics that you have lyrics talking about shooting people, then be involved in a shooting and then release another video the day of the murder.

 

[FanofJerry]

The kid is obviously into immature things. He deserves a second chance though.

I have a feeling KJ is going to be like Joseph Randle...a perpetual "Huh, He did what? Again? Why? Huh? He couldnt be that stupid?" machine

Psychology is a helluva a drug

 

[Pass2Run]

So there is a used bullet casing in the word Loyalty. See if I was KJ' friend, agent, publicist or whatever I'd get in his ear and tell him to get rid of all that stuff. I remember some lyrics he had that mentioned "being on the grind, all time, with my nine", or something to that effect. Any mention of guns or shooting people needs to get removed. That's going to hurt him in court whether it be criminal or civil.

Yeah it's not good optics that you have lyrics talking about shooting people, then be involved in a shooting and then release another video the day of the murder.

You're not digging hard enough on YT.

There's a lot more than that.

Search under YKDV (You Know Da Vibe), and you'll start to see what's going on.

He's hanging around trash leaches.

I wonder who the trigger man was?? Maybe the guy in the red shirt?

Yep. All I had to do was watch TKDV on YouTube to see these clowns leaching on his fame and talent, as if their own.

 

[Runwildboys]

Does anyone else know that KJ posted, or released, his new single "Loves is a drug". No that's not a typo he has Loves and is in the title. The song is not good but the comments that people posted were absolutely brutal. But the song or the comments are not the thing stands out to me. What stands out to me is he released the video the same day as the murder. That's not a good look.

I assume it was released before the incident, so I don't see the relevance.

 

[RonnieT24]

I assume it was released before the incident, so I don't see the relevance.

Agree.. but since the shooting occurred in the wee hours I guess it's possible that the release took place later on the same day? But they likely didn't know anyone had actually died by then anyway.