DC.COM Blog: A Few Clarifications On Anderson Incident

[Vtwin]

Like I said it depends on what jurisdiction you are in.

Revolvers are different in that as long as the chamber that the hammer is on is empty its not considered chambered, just loaded.

That just doesn't make sense.

Semi-auto with one in the chamber. Pull trigger gun fires.

Revolver with hammer resting on empty chamber. Pull trigger gun fires.

What's the difference?

 

[jobberone]

I have only pulled my gun one time in my life and I was never so thankful in my life to not need it. I do not chamber a round ever unless I mean to pull the trigger.

And there's nothing wrong with that approach. I've pulled my gun when I was told someone was in the house once but never ever against another human being. There was no one in the house BTW. And I left my pistols unchambered when I had kids at home. OTOH, I always had a round chambered when I carried either in law enforcement or otherwise. Especially in law enforcement. You may not have time to chamber a round.

And I agree. Go thru a safety course and get your permit. Know your states regulations and for God's sake don't pull your weapon until someone is threatened. It's for protection not intimidation. Pulling it unnecessarily can be a crime and its generally pretty serious.

 

[Brian_C82]

I would actually recommend that all law abiding Texans keep a loaded gun in their car. It is a guaranteed right in the state of Texas as long as it is concealed and kept inside the car. Thanks to the legal efforts of the NRA, employers cannot prohibit their employees from keeping guns in their own car. It is also legal to carry a gun into the workplace unless your employer has a special sign posted (30.06 sign).

I will occasionally keep a S&W model 686 in the glove compartment. You never know when it could come handy.

 

[burmafrd]

ITs how the law sometimes makes no sense? That is what you get sometimes. ITs also considered a safety measure to have the hammer on an empty chamber.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Asaph Schwapp, FB from Notre Dame who in Camp this year. He is a monster.

If you see the video of the players introductions at TC last year you really get a feel for how huge this guy is. I will see if I can find the video later and post it.

Edit...

Video.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=C3BD9FD0-B249-1268-CABA6DB5168BCA3E

He wears #45 and when the RBs are introduced you get a pretty good look. The RBs are introduced at the 24:50 mark.

I remember watching that link this summer and watching it again just makes me smile.

I'm also, and maybe I'm the only one, but I love our 3 Rbs. I really don't want to see any of the 3 go. I love each one of them and what they bring to the table and I want to see them all here.

Choice is, easily, my favorite of the 3 though.

 

[Vtwin]

Again, does he have a license and why was the gun in the bushes? Why did it ever leave the car?

Until there are good answers for these questions I have serious reservations.

The purpose of the story was to show that even having a weapon visible can be deemed a threat. If Cricket had wanted to avoid these entanglements he did a lot of things wrong.

This is why I tell anyone who owns a gun that whether they intend to carry it or not, go get a concealed carry permit for your own protection. Even if the gun never leaves your house in your lifetime.

I can understand your reservations but you have to admit you are making some assumptions in order to reach that point. Putting myself in his place and not knowing anything more then you do I can envision a scenario in which Deon did all the wrong things for all the right reasons.

Again, not saying that it did go down that way. Just saying that it could have gone down that way.

As one who tends to think about right and wrong the way I see it and laws be damned I can see myself put in a position where I did the "right" thing the way I see it but some debatably irrational law says I did the "wrong" thing.

Again, not saying that is the case here, just that it could be the case here based on what we know.

 

[Vtwin]

ITs how the law sometimes makes no sense? That is what you get sometimes. ITs also considered a safety measure to have the hammer on an empty chamber.

Is there a law that says you can't have a round chambered? I don't believe there is and would appreciate a pointer to it if it exists.

My point was that a revolver with the hammer on an empty chamber is NOT the same as a semi-auto with an empty chamber. With the revolver in that condition all you still only have to pull the trigger and the gun fires. Just like with a semi-auto with a round in the chamber.

That is what doesn't make sense.

The safety reason for keeping the hammer on a revolver over an open cylinder is so that the gun won't fire if dropped on the hammer.

 

[Hostile]

I would actually recommend that all law abiding Texans keep a loaded gun in their car. It is a guaranteed right in the state of Texas as long as it is concealed and kept inside the car. Thanks to the legal efforts of the NRA, employers cannot prohibit their employees from keeping guns in their own car. It is also legal to carry a gun into the workplace unless your employer has a special sign posted (30.06 sign).

I will occasionally keep a S&W model 686 in the glove compartment. You never know when it could come handy.

I had one of those. I was terrible with it so I eventually got rid of it. Couldn't hit the broad side of the barn.

 

[Hostile]

I can understand your reservations but you have to admit you are making some assumptions in order to reach that point. Putting myself in his place and not knowing anything more then you do I can envision a scenario in which Deon did all the wrong things for all the right reasons.

Again, not saying that it did go down that way. Just saying that it could have gone down that way.

As one who tends to think about right and wrong the way I see it and laws be damned I can see myself put in a position where I did the "right" thing the way I see it but some debatably irrational law says I did the "wrong" thing.

Again, not saying that is the case here, just that it could be the case here based on what we know.

We are all making assumptions here.

Mine are centered upon proper handling of a firearm and possible consequences if you don't. I think if they want to make an example of him he is in deep doo doo.

 

[adbutcher]

You don't cut players for being charged with misdemeanors.

The police almost always charge high and then the charges get lowered. For them to start at a misdemeanor here means this was fairly harmless incident that had zero threat or violence.

Plenty of people have been mad when a valet brought back a dinged up car or saw had something missing from the car.

Cricket may end up gone and obviously he will eventually but this is a time for tapped breaks.

I remember last off-season seeing Spencer get in trouble for fighting with a bouncer.... How many people want him cut now?

If we find a better player than Cricket for his dual role of lead blocker and special teamer then by all means he can be cut.

I hate logic, it makes me feel funny.

 

[Cover 2]

I actually sided with Cricket until I found out he stashed the gun in a bush. That raises serious questions for me that he decided to hide the gun. Maybe there's a plausible explanation, but I sure can't think of one. I'll wait to listen to what he says, but it doesn't look good.

 

[The Realist]

fact - i see stupid in your post. something tells me you don't. so "stupid" isn't a good objective measure, now is it?

fact - name this "long history" - i've not heard of it and the cowboys are proud of getting that out of the system - so if he were this 'thug' you want us to believe he'd not be here.

fact - i am not my brother. my oldest brother has spent a LOT of time in jail in his youth - i was there for a weekend during a filiming of my short movie. no connection once again.

fact - he wasn't running around pulling a gun on anyone or the arrest would have been different, why do you feel some compulsory need to exaggurate the truth to your dramafied need?

whole lot of speculation going on here.

I've posted it twice for all to see.

He was kicked out of UConn and this was well known coming into his draft class.

You haven't heard of it? Why doesn't that suprise me? As if you are some sort of good barometer. What are we, 12 months removed from Pac Man and Tank. However, those probably don't qualify as thugs in your book.

If you have to stash a gun in a bush in the parking lot of a club at 2am.........

You might be a thug.

 

[iceberg]

I've posted it twice for all to see.

He was kicked out of UConn and this was well known coming into his draft class.

You haven't heard of it? Why doesn't that suprise me? As if you are some sort of good barometer. What are we, 12 months removed from Pac Man and Tank. However, those probably don't qualify as thugs in your book.

If you have to stash a gun in a bush in the parking lot of a club at 2am.........

You might be a thug.

so he has a long history of being this "thug" and all you can give me is he was kicked out of UCONN?

i'm not defending the guy - i'm just not gonna dive into the lynch mob to kill him at 1st evidence.

 

[jobberone]

I'd rather avoid the label and say he appears to have exhibited very poor judgment and his behavior is unacceptable. If he can't get this dropped then he's probably looking at probation or even some weekend jail time for a short period.

 

[iceberg]

I'd rather avoid the label and say he appears to have exhibited very poor judgment and his behavior is unacceptable. If he can't get this dropped then he's probably looking at probation or even some weekend jail time for a short period.

getting the gun - stupid.
putting it in the bushes - compounds said stupidity.

if he had a license, leave it alone and don't worry about it - but getting it, as hos has said, put this in a whole 'nother game. so yea, i agree with you. i'm just not wanting to go crazy and kick him off the team based off initial facts.

if being stupid were criminal we'd have a lot less posters in here.

 

[newlander]

Cricket screwed up. Guns and the NFL don't mix at all. Bottom line: he isn't good enough to get the benefit of the doubt. He'll catch on somewhere else..........