Deadpool: A waste of time and money

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With this movie crushing the box office, I'm guessing a sequel gets moved to a summer release with Cable, time travel and a big budget. There's gotta be a Deadpool/Cable buddy movie.

Maybe Tom Hardy for Cable? Age him up a bit. Grow out the hobo beard.
 

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With this movie crushing the box office, I'm guessing a sequel gets moved to a summer release with Cable, time travel and a big budget. There's gotta be a Deadpool/Cable buddy movie.

Maybe Tom Hardy for Cable? Age him up a bit. Grow out the hobo beard.

Stephen Lang from Avatar is already campaigning hard for the role. I think he's a great actor who would be a great fit.

Credit to the writers, director, and actor involved in getting this character right and reaping the rewards for it. Hopefully, the studios learn to trust the people who actually know the characters.

I'm personally curious as to who the idiot executive was who refused to green light this project for so long before they moved to Sony Pictures? There are some studio execs making big money doing a baaaaddddd job.
 

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Stephen Lang from Avatar is already campaigning hard for the role. I think he's a great actor who would be a great fit.

Credit to the writers, director, and actor involved in getting this character right and reaping the rewards for it. Hopefully, the studios learn to trust the people who actually know the characters.

I'm personally curious as to who the idiot executive was who refused to green light this project for so long before they moved to Sony Pictures? There are some studio execs making big money doing a baaaaddddd job.

ron perlman would be better.
 

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With this movie crushing the box office, I'm guessing a sequel gets moved to a summer release with Cable, time travel and a big budget. There's gotta be a Deadpool/Cable buddy movie.

Maybe Tom Hardy for Cable? Age him up a bit. Grow out the hobo beard.

People were also saying maybe John Hamm, I thought Josh Brolin might be pretty good in that role too.
 

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If this is an A+ movie, then what are classics like Gone With The Wind or The Wizard of Oz. Same level as those?

I would take Deadpool over those movies all day every day. A lot of "classics" aren't very good IMO.
 

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I would take Deadpool over those movies all day every day. A lot of "classics" aren't very good IMO.

I agree. Deadpool has better acting, script, direction, costumes, etc. than Gone With The Wind. Deadpool is more iconic than GWTW or The Wizard of Oz. Who cares about the Ruby Slippers, the most iconic shoes in the movies. Deadpool trumps all that. Deadpool is A++++++++.
 

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As someone that hasn't seen this movie yet, I'm curious how much editing will it take to make this thing okay to be aired on TV? Will it lose too much to be the same experience. Should I just go ahead and go see this at the theater? I don't mind the wait.
 

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As someone that hasn't seen this movie yet, I'm curious how much editing will it take to make this thing okay to be aired on TV? Will it lose too much to be the same experience. Should I just go ahead and go see this at the theater? I don't mind the wait.

If you wait for it to be on regular TV then it won't be worth anything. Way too much would have to be censored. I never understand why they put movies like this on broadcast TV when they have to censor everything. It's annoying hearing "bleeps" repeatedly watching a movie.
 

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CowboysZone is a microcosm of human culture, especially American culture. It's a place where you can witness how diverse individual opinion is about any subject practically every day of the week. Take my opinion of Deadpool and movie classics. I think Deadpool rocks. It's a very good blending of the comic book and moviemaking. I think it will do extremely well in theaters and cable/rental because the movie's solid and people (not all but enough) love a good anti-hero.

On the other hand, I think a number of proclaimed classic movies enjoy wide appeal. I consider a classic as a film that entertains movie lovers (not all but enough) across generations. My way of seeing it is that certain films labeled as classics, which were held in high regard in the past, may not rest upon lofty pedestals in the present but they are still judged by contemporaries (not all but enough) as remarkable pieces of cinematic art.

So, I guess what can be generally perceived as good or bad about movies as a whole outside our own opinion boils down to just what the heck does "not all but enough" really means? :confused::)
 

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CowboysZone is a microcosm of human culture, especially American culture. It's a place where you can witness how diverse individual opinion is about any subject practically every day of the week. Take my opinion of Deadpool and movie classics. I think Deadpool rocks. It' a very good blending of the comic book and moviemaking. I think it will do extremely well in theaters and cable/rental because the movie's solid and people (not all but enough) love a good anti-hero.

On the other hand, I think a number of proclaimed classic movies enjoy wide appeal. I consider a classic as a film that entertains movie lovers (not all but enough) across generations. My way of seeing it is that certain films labeled as classics, which were held in high regard in the past, may not rest upon lofty pedestals in the present but they are still judged by contemporaries (not all but enough) as remarkable pieces of cinematic art.

So, I guess what can be generally perceived as good or bad about movies as a whole outside our own opinion boils down to just what the heck does "not all but enough" really means? :confused::)

It comes down to what is it that made any movie a classic in the 1st place.
 

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As someone that hasn't seen this movie yet, I'm curious how much editing will it take to make this thing okay to be aired on TV? Will it lose too much to be the same experience. Should I just go ahead and go see this at the theater? I don't mind the wait.
Deadpool will be best viewed on cable or pay per view. I think a lot of the imagery wouldn't get filtered out on broadcast television, perhaps direct bullet or sword impacts would be edited out. As @Jammer mentions, language would fall victim to audio scissors. Ryan Reynolds deliveries would get gutted unfortunately.
If you wait for it to be on regular TV then it won't be worth anything. Way too much would have to be censored. I never understand why they put movies like this on broadcast TV when they have to censor everything. It's annoying hearing "bleeps" repeatedly watching a movie.
Thank you. I feel the same way. It's terrible knowing scenes here or lines there are dropped out of a movie. It's like watching animated swiss cheese.
 
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It comes down to what is it that made any movie a classic in the 1st place.
But all movies aren't instant classics. The Wizard of OZ and Citizen Kane are perfect examples of movies that drew lackluster audiences when they debuted but grew into cultural icons as time passed. The same goes for The Shawshank Redemption. What about It's A Wonderful Life? That's a great holiday movie. What's Christmas like without it re-running every single year? I regard all of the previously mentioned films as classics but I can see how others do not see them as such, even today.
 
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But all movies aren't instance classics. The Wizard of OZ and Citizen Kane are perfect examples of movies that drew lackluster audiences when they debuted but grew into cultural icons as time passed. The same goes for The Shawshank Redemption. What about It's A Wonderful Life? That's a great holiday movie. What's Christmas like without it re-running every single year? I regard all of the previously mentioned films as classics but I can see how others do not see them as such, even today.

I said WHAT made any movie a classic in the 1st place. (the essence of it) Not when it became a classic. Everyone has a viewpoint on what a classic is.
 
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As someone that hasn't seen this movie yet, I'm curious how much editing will it take to make this thing okay to be aired on TV? Will it lose too much to be the same experience. Should I just go ahead and go see this at the theater? I don't mind the wait.

Simply put, Deadpool is an 'R' rated character. The violence and the raunchy, adult-oriented humor is what makes Deadpool, Deadpool. And that's why the people involved were adamant in how he was presented.

I would advise seeing it in theaters if you have even a passing interest in the character or the superhero genre. Just know that this ain't Avengers!
 

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I said WHAT made any movie a classic in the 1st place. Not when it became a classic. Everyone has a viewpoint on what a classic is.
True, and that's what I'm saying. Time modifies opinion sometimes. It would not surprise me if there are those who watched The Wizard of Oz in 1939, considered it not so good at the time, changed their opinion of the movie after re-watching it later on. The same is true in reverse. Wayne's World is a "cult" classic. I think some considered it fantastic the first time watching it and downgraded their personal grade of the movie as time wore on.
 

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True, and that's what I'm saying. Time modifies opinion sometimes. It would not surprise me if there are those who watched The Wizard of Oz in 1939, considered it not so good at the time, changed their opinion of the movie after re-watching it later on. The same is true in reverse. Wayne's World is a "cult" classic. I think some considered it fantastic the first time watching it and downgraded their personal grade of the movie as time wore on.

Let's say Deadpool is a classic. What is it that makes it one? The script, acting, direction, costumes? What of it that will hold up over time 70 years down the road as it has for movies like Gone with the Wind or The Wizard of Oz?

Sorry I derailed this topic, I won't post anymore.
 
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As someone that hasn't seen this movie yet, I'm curious how much editing will it take to make this thing okay to be aired on TV? Will it lose too much to be the same experience. Should I just go ahead and go see this at the theater? I don't mind the wait.

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Let's say Deadpool is a classic. What is it that makes it one? The script, acting, direction, costumes? What of it that will hold up over time 70 years down the road as it has for movies like Gone with the Wind or The Wizard of Oz?

Sorry I derailed this topic, I won't post anymore.
Those are good questions. In my opinion using your criteria, Deadpool's entertainment strengths are the acting and script. Reynolds is gold with the character and the supporting cast is moderately good. The script had to embody the outrageously eccentric nature of the title character, combine his dialogue with the supposedly "normal" conversation of everyone else, and carry the plot logically start to finish. I believe it accomplishes its task very well.

Direction was fairly loose. It had to be in some aspects to let Deadpool have all the space necessary to relate his character to the audience. Direction could've been more defined though. For instance, I thought the tavern scenes could've had more firm discourse between characters. Overall, costumes were weak--although I would give Deadpool's final uniform an A-. I expect better costume--along with cinematography, special effects and makeup--work with larger budgeted sequels.

Personally, I wouldn't categorize Deadpool as a classic somewhat for these reasons. None of my neutral or negative opinions will prevent the movie from being widely popular though. The movie's originality has and will delight audiences. How long will it's "uniqueness" keep and grow audiences is anyone's guess but it doesn't necessarily determine the film's longevity. Individual appeal for anti-heros will keep the movie from ever becoming an obscure one. People return constantly to the Dirty Harrys, Rambos, etc. type films. What's that old saying? Everyone likes a bad boy. :)
 
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