Deuce Vaughn: 'The Short King!' NFL 'Messed Up' on Cowboys Deuce Vaughn Move

[Stash]

Your words:

"He doesn’t have to prove anything because he already has."

So there is no need for Vaughn to play a down any more than he has as he should be sent right to the HoF since he doesn't need to prove anything.

Yep. That’s exactly what I said.

 

[pitt33]

So after 1 preseason game against #2's and #3's the entire league messed up allowing Vaughn to go to Dallas???? Damn man talking about anointing a rookie to greatness a little too soon.

Kills me too.

But we know it’s just the media and all the sensationalism that goes with it.

Bill Parcells said it best many years ago.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

No. People compared a part of his game to Barry Sanders. But when your argument is getting squashed, you make a blanket statement about a claim nobody made. A Strawman argument.

So in other words they compared him to Barry Sanders and left out the parts that align with my original point.

It's not a strawman, it's exactly what happened

 

[USArmyVet]

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What is kinda funny is Kay Adams says the the rest of the NFL made a mistake letting Vaughn drop without describing him as Barry Sanders. Animaniacs? Yes. Vaughn? No.

Kay Adams tweet, and what was posted by the OP, is a fallacy because it is based on faulty logic in the form of a rookie playing 1/2 of a quarter of preseason football against back-ups or soon-to-be-released players and making the grand assertion that ALL the other Nfl teams will regret Dallas drafting Vaughn.

 

[rambo2]

Beating a LB on an arrow route isn't unique. Most backs in the league can do that.

Pollard is also a terrific receiver, and has proven it against actual NFL defenses. Deuce hasn't done anything to warrant taking away any of those touches.

Deuce is a better receiver than Pollard and Pollard is good.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Deuce is a better receiver than Pollard and Pollard is good.

That's a wild speculation. He's never done anything in the NFL as a receiver.

 

[USArmyVet]

Yep. That’s exactly what I said.

Yes, what you said in quotes are your exact words and express the belief that Vaughn does not need to prove anything simply because he performed in college.

 

[Stash]

So in other words they compared him to Barry Sanders and left out the parts that align with my original point.

It's not a strawman, it's exactly what happened

 

[Stash]

Yes, what you said in quotes are your exact words and express the belief that Vaughn does not need to prove anything simply because he performed in college.

Which has nothing to do with any HOF nonsense talk.

I’m glad we’re both clear on that.

 

[USArmyVet]

Which has nothing to do with any HOF nonsense talk.

I’m glad we’re both clear on that.

The point is your quote infers Vaughn need not prove himself in the NFL because he has in college.....glad we are both clear that that sentiment is false.

 

[USArmyVet]

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Country	Neutral since		Country	Neutral since
Austria	1955​		Panama	1989​
Costa Rica	1949​		Rwanda	2009​
Finland	1956​		San Marino	1945​
Ireland	1939​		Serbia	2007​
Japan	1947​		Singapore	1965​
Liechtenstein	1868​		Sweden	1919​
Malta	1980​		Switzerland	1815​
Mexico	1945​		Turkmenistan	1995​
Monaco	1945​		Uzbekistan	2012​
Mongolia	2015​		Vatican City	1929​
Moldova	1994​

 

[Stash]

The point is your quote infers Vaughn need not prove himself in the NFL because he has in college.....glad we are both clear that that sentiment is false.

My point is that he’s already shown that he can play at the NFL level.

If that still hasn’t occurred to you yet, that’s on you.

 

[USArmyVet]

My point is that he’s already shown that he can play at the NFL level.

If that still hasn’t occurred to you yet, that’s on you.

Well, nice to see the bar for a drafted player to show he can play at the NFL level is 30 minutes of preseason play.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So society is saying all that???? Stop with the overblown BS parade and trying to apply the obvious labeling that you are doing because quite frankly most of America has never heard of the guy nor do they care.

You’re confused so let me explain.In this world we live in we project. Cowboys will lose in the first round this year, Mahomes will be great and so on and so and so forth. When I say society Im referencing the NFL audience. The one that speaks in absolutes. What will and won’t happen. Deuce fell because he’s not suppose to succeed. Either you get it or you don’t but not shockingly you are the only one who didn’t.

 

[Rockport]

So after 1 preseason game against #2's and #3's the entire league messed up allowing Vaughn to go to Dallas???? Damn man talking about anointing a rookie to greatness a little too soon.

You’re always so angry.

 

[Stash]

Well, nice to see the bar for a drafted player to show he can play at the NFL level is 30 minutes of preseason play.

If you want to be the last person to get on board, that’s your prerogative.

 

[USArmyVet]

You’re confused so let me explain.In this world we live in we project. Cowboys will lose in the first round this year, Mahomes will be great and so on and so and so forth. When I say society Im referencing the NFL audience. The one that speaks in absolutes. What will and won’t happen. Deuce fell because he’s not suppose to succeed. Either you get it or you don’t but not shockingly you are the only one who didn’t.

So I am the only one that doesn't get it as you say? Well nice to know the Gestapo 1A police are growing by the day.

 

[USArmyVet]

You’re always so angry.

You are the last person that should be making that statement.

 

[Rockport]

Uh, it doesn't matter what a RB does before they're touched.

Make sure you come back in a few weeks and admit you were wrong. It’s it’s in you.

 

[USArmyVet]

If you want to be the last person to get on board, that’s your prerogative.

So because I want to see more than 30 minutes of a preseason game....dare I say even a full season....before 'getting on board' than I have no issue not getting on the blind faith train.