News: Dez on IR : needs surgery

mldardy said:
Pretty much this. I'm also finding it amusing and interesting that almost everyone was wanting Dez to come back as soon as he could and now it's he shouldn't have come back at all. Look it was a risk it didn't work. And as you said this season was over anyway so get whatever needs to be done now in preparation for next season.
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The season was worth the risk. When Tony came back we had a real shot if we won a game or two while he was gone. It is always better to try. They both have a whole offseason to heal.
 
bkight13 said:
The season was worth the risk. When Tony came back we had a real shot if we won a game or two while he was gone. It is always better to try. They both have a whole offseason to heal.
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Agreed with you that there was little to lose having Tony come back early and try.

I may disagree with you on Dez. Look no further than Hakeem Nicks for a guy who suffered a Jones injury, came back too early, ended up on IR and was NEVER the same player again.

Foot injuries are nothing to trifle with when it comes to WRs.

Let's hope the Cowboys didn't make a big mistake allowing to him come back so early.
 
Pessimist_cowboy said:
Might be the poorest contract yet for jj. He may never be the same .
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In 2 years when Dez has no guaranteed money left and 12.5m per year everyone will be saying what a great contract it is for the team.

Everyone but you, you've been banned from discussing his contract in 2018.
 
perrykemp said:
Agreed with you that there was little to lose having Tony come back early and try.

I may disagree with you on Dez. Look no further than Hakeem Nicks for a guy who suffered a Jones injury, came back too early, ended up on IR and was NEVER the same player again.

Foot injuries are nothing to trifle with when it comes to WRs.

Let's hope the Cowboys didn't make a big mistake allowing to him come back so early.
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My thought is Dez was rushing back no matter what. No one was keeping him off the field.

It is that drive that makes him special. He was never a finely tuned, fast twitch, prima donna. He is a workhorse that will out fight, out jump and out desire you, His long term game will be just fine IMO.
 
LocimusPrime said:
I knew he came back to early. ESPN was right 12 weeks is the normal and with a chance of refracture. Everyone heralded his " healing" ability like he was wolverine or something. I hope this doesnt impact his offseason training and conditioning.
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The season is done with. Notice how he doesn't go on IR until we are officially out of the playoffs?

I don't think he was 100% by any means, but ESPN jumped the gun in claiming that he was out for 12 weeks automatically. He wasn't and if we were playing for the postseason, he'd still be here.



YR
 
jazzcat22 said:
what does the staff have to do with Dez needing a few minor surgeries? He was medically cleared to play, and this could be entirely different issues.
Oh, just a continued way to knock the staff....
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He was medically cleared to play but he was rushed back to try and help save the season that was slowly slipping away. He wasn't mentally or physically ready to play and his performances the rest of the season prove it. No coincidence the Cowboys picked the Seattle game for his return because they desperately needed him on the field in that game with the team riding a 4 game losing streak. Dez did virtually nothing as Richard Sherman hardly broke a sweat staying with him all day. We were stuck with a backup QB and Twill and the rest of the WRs weren't getting it done so Dez was rushed back. Even Garrett admitted Dez still wasn't his normal self several games after his return saying he was getting closer to being 100%. Dez couldn't even separate from average corners the biggest play he made was on a jump ball in the endzone. Jerry finally breaks down and resigns him to a huge contract and what do you know he gets injured and has a miserable season.

That's the kind of rotten luck this team has been having. Jerry has to be kicking himself that he didn't force Dez to play under the franchise tag. Had he done that he could have gotten him cheaper or he might have looked into trading him after a lousy injury plagued season that requires surgery. Dez already carried a risk with off the field concerns now his health and his ability to get back to the level he was is a concern. Now we have to wonder if he'll will ever be the player he was after this injury and with him having been paid. He's has to be thanking his lucky stars he got paid when he did because he wouldn't have gotten that kind of money after a crappy season like this and playing on an injured foot that wasn't fully healed. It can be argued Romo was brought back too soon because his backups weren't getting it done and the team was desperate.
 
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Yakuza Rich said:
The season is done with. Notice how he doesn't go on IR until we are officially out of the playoffs?

I don't think he was 100% by any means, but ESPN jumped the gun in claiming that he was out for 12 weeks automatically

YR
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ESPN said it was an injury that typically took 8-12 weeks to recover from. The conclusion is the earlier he came back had a direct correlation in the increased chance of of him re-injuring to foot.

Yeah, he got himself out on the field way before it was healed. He generally suffered through a miserable season before ending up finally on IR.

Was ESPN really that off?
 
foofighters said:
I am looking at the entirety of his career not just this year. I don't understand why people think in small terms and don't want to look at the bigger picture.
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But you posted that in response to a statement about this season. Your non sequitur doesn't relate.
 
perrykemp said:
ESPN said it was an injury that typically took 8-12 weeks to recover from. The conclusion is the earlier he came back had a direct correlation in the increased chance of of him re-injuring to foot.

Yeah, he got himself out on the field way before it was healed. He generally suffered through a miserable season before ending up finally on IR.

Was ESPN really that off?
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I remember ESPN saying 10-12 weeks and it being more like 12 weeks and 6 weeks was just something to laugh at Jerry Jones.

So yeah, IMO...they were way off. It's nothing new.






YR
 
KJJ said:
He was medically cleared to play but he was rushed back to try and help save the season that was slowly slipping away. He wasn't mentally or physically ready to play and his performances the rest of the season prove it. No coincidence the Cowboys picked the Seattle game for his return because they desperately needed him on the field in that game with the team riding a 4 game losing streak. Dez did virtually nothing as Richard Sherman hardly broke a sweat staying with him all day. We were stuck with a backup QB and Twill and the rest of the WRs weren't getting it done so Dez was rushed back. Even Garrett admitted Dez still wasn't his normal self several games after his return saying he was getting closer to being 100%. Dez couldn't even separate from average corners the biggest play he made was on a jump ball in the endzone. Jerry finally breaks down and resigns him to a huge contract and what do you know he gets injured and has a miserable season.

That's the kind of rotten luck this team has been having. Jerry has to be kicking himself that he didn't force Dez to play under the franchise tag. Had he done that he could have gotten him cheaper or he might have looked into trading him after a lousy injury plagued season that requires surgery. He certainly would have gotten him cheaper had he waited. Dez already carried a risk with off the field concerns now his health and his ability to get back to the level he was is a concern. Now we have to wonder if he'll will ever be the player he was after this injury and with him having been paid. He's has to be thanking his lucky stars he got paid when he did because he wouldn't have gotten that kind of money after a crappy season like this and playing on an injured foot that wasn't fully healed. It can be argued Romo brought back too soon because his backups weren't getting it done and the team was desperate.
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There is no way JJones would trade Dez after this season. Romo still only has 2 years left and he needs weapons.

Franchising would have only hurt the cap this year and next. Dez' contract saved the team 5.7m, which it about equal to the amount that will be rolled over to 2016. That will lower his effective cap hit from 13m to 7.3m
 
foofighters said:
How so? DB's know that they can get into his head as long as they continue to trash talk him during the game. Dez just can't jog back to the huddle, he's always got to be jawing back and forth with a DB. His route running has only improved a little bit, now that can be attributed to our 3 terrible QB's this year but how many other big name WR's do you see getting involved and making things happen? I never really cared for Irvin but the guy was always there. He could walk the talk. So before you get all cute with your "next" comment, lets look at things realistically. I like Dez and I am cheering him on but he's got to start maturing as a player.
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Do you feel better now?
 
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