Dez tweet today

[ABQCOWBOY]

Again. Players don't like the tag despite the "good pay"

So I disagree with what you first said when you argued the tag protects the players. The tag is a tool of owners.

But they do like the increase in revenues they received under the new agreement so it's all about negotiations. The simple truth of the matter is that contracts for a short period of time were over inflated to meet the negotiated increase in salaries every team had to reach. Now the market is beyond that and contracts are starting to normalize again. This is an expected and predictable outcome. Agents know this and players should know this. If you want to avoid the tag, then negotiate a deal that is acceptable to both parties. Don't just hang the club out to dry because of the tag. That's not reasonable.

As for the tag and how it protects the players, well, it actually does. It guarantees them, for at least a year, an average of the top 5 salaries at their position. They could be making a lot less so yes, it does provide protection to the players as well but to be perfectly clear, I never said the tag protects the players. I said the contract negotiated between the players and the owners (the CBA) was designed to protect both sides.

You can still disagree if you wish. I'm fine with it.

 

[Frozen700]

That could happen to every single one of us at any time, and yet we all manage to get by. So don't cry a river over a guy who currently has a deal he can sign that will pay him enough money in 1 year where he could make $390,000 per year for the rest of his life.

By the way, they have this thing called "health insurance" that helps protect you against lengthy hospital stays.

Easy to talk this way when you only probably make average $$$.

 

[Aven8]

Well, then quit buying stupid 88 diamond necklaces that cost 400k, and a 200k Bentley on a rookie contract Dez!

 

[Toruk_Makto]

You know it is not that simple. Did you expect to make what you are making now while you were in college? College was part of the process just like rookie contracts and Franchise Tags are part of the process.

Zach Martin was an All-Pro and is making about 2.2M while Doug Free was not and never has been All-Pro and he is making 5M. Is that fair? It's how the system works.

The system is what caused Calvin Johnson to get over-paid. Because of his rookie contract and the fact that the 1st Franchise Tag has to be 20% a player previous salary, Franchising him for 2 years would have been about 46M. The contract he received directly related to how the Tag and system worked in his scenario. His guaranteed money was close to what his 2 year franchise total would have been.

The system changed when the players and owners agreed to a new CBA. Rookie contracts became much smaller and the Franchise Tag for Dez was not affected by his previous year's salary. His two year Tag total would be 28M; therefore, 28M in guaranteed money in a contract would be similar relatively as compared to CJ's guaranteed money compared to his two year Tag amount.

The Cowboys didn't implement the new CBA by themselves; however, if they don't maximize the cap using all methods available including the Tag, then they are operating at a disadvantage to other teams.

Dez is basically asking the team to operate at a disadvantage to other teams. Is that fair to Cowboys fans?

Your college analogy and your comparison of Martin and Zach are so off base I don't know where to begin.

For starters the likelihood that an abnormally large and abnormally strong and abnormally fast man could crash into me and end my earning potentially is vastly different in college verses in the national football league. That's why I'd be more interested in maximizing my earnings potential as soon as possible verses when I was getting drunk and chasing coeds.

Also yes I except Martin to earn less than free. And I think that's fair. I except a prized new associate at our firm to warn less than a senior vice president despite their relative first year performance. Wouldn't you?

And again nobody has claimed that Dez should make Calvin money. But he should be among the highest paid players on a long term deal at his position. It's the curse of having really great players. You get to pay them.

 

[gmoney112]

I know my family starves if we make any less than 13.5 million.

Under 12 million and i might have to forego Bobby Flay grilling for my weekly get togethers on my yacht.

Just think, i might have to actually brush my OWN shoulders off.

Shudder.

 

[ajk23az]

Well if we don't want to use things reported by multiple people. Then why discuss anything?

Lets discuss the video of Dez in the walmart parking lot reported by multiple people then. Oh wait...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Your college analogy and your comparison of Martin and Zach are so off base I don't know where to begin.

For starters the likelihood that an abnormally large and abnormally strong and abnormally fast man could crash into me and end my earning potentially is vastly different in college verses in the national football league. That's why I'd be more interested in maximizing my earnings potential as soon as possible verses when I was getting drunk and chasing coeds.

Also yes I except Martin to earn less than free. And I think that's fair. I except a prized new associate at our firm to warn less than a senior vice president despite their relative first year performance. Wouldn't you?

And again nobody has claimed that Dez should make Calvin money. But he should be among the highest paid players on a long term deal at his position. It's the curse of having really great players. You get to pay them.

12. 8 Million is actually second highest salary at his position. It is not guaranteed over multiple years but I think that it's probably fair to assume that if he were willing to sign for 12.8 long term, with a good portion of it guaranteed, the team would likely do it. If the criteria is not Calvin money but amongst the hightest paid players long term, then that is exactly what that would represent.

 

[ajk23az]

And again nobody has claimed that Dez should make Calvin money. But he should be among the highest paid players on a long term deal at his position. It's the curse of having really great players. You get to pay them.

Soooo, you realize that $13m annually with a good amount guaranteed would be the 2nd largest WR contract in the NFL by a cool million, right? MEgatron is making on average 16.207m, Mike wallace is making 12m

EDIT: ABQ and I posted same thing ...

 

[xwalker]

Your college analogy and your comparison of Martin and Zach are so off base I don't know where to begin.

For starters the likelihood that an abnormally large and abnormally strong and abnormally fast man could crash into me and end my earning potentially is vastly different in college verses in the national football league. That's why I'd be more interested in maximizing my earnings potential as soon as possible verses when I was getting drunk and chasing coeds.

Also yes I except Martin to earn less than free. And I think that's fair. I except a prized new associate at our firm to warn less than a senior vice president despite their relative first year performance. Wouldn't you?

And again nobody has claimed that Dez should make Calvin money. But he should be among the highest paid players on a long term deal at his position. It's the curse of having really great players. You get to pay them.

My analogy is as relevant as a guy making 33K compared to a guy making 100K.

Your original analogy didn't included that the football player could get injured but the office worker probably won't. Basically there is not a good way to make a comparison of the situation with Dez to a normal job. Maybe we can just get away from the attempted analogies to normal jobs.

The 2nd highest WR contract averages 12M and had 27M guaranteed. It is highly likely that the Cowboys would offer Dez something that exceeds that contract in both average and guaranteed money.

 

[AsthmaField]

People can be upset about how much a franchise WR makes and Dez positioning himself to use his leverage... but that is simply the state of the NFL these days. That's how it goes.

If it wasn't Dallas and Dez wasn't such a fantastic talent... we wouldn't be hearing all of this contract stuff. However, it is Dallas and it is Dez, so everyone is going to report on it constantly until something bigger comes along.

 

[kevm3]

Sounds like he wants a long-term deal with solid guaranteed money

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

People can be upset about how much a franchise WR makes and Dez positioning himself to use his leverage... but that is simply the state of the NFL these days. That's how it goes.

If it wasn't Dallas and Dez wasn't such a fantastic talent... we wouldn't be hearing all of this contract stuff. However, it is Dallas and it is Dez, so everyone is going to report on it constantly until something bigger comes along.

It will all work itself out eventually.

The thing that amazes me about discussions of this sort are that it's always centered around Owners and Players. Aren't we, the fans, what this is all about? Without the fans, there would be no money. Yet it's never viewed in that way. LOL.........

I demand representation!!!!!!!

 

[Doomsday101]

It will all work itself out eventually.

The thing that amazes me about discussions of this sort are that it's always centered around Owners and Players. Aren't we the ones that all of this are about? Without the fans, there would be no money. Yet it's never viewed in that way. LOL.........

I demand representation!!!!!!!

You are the master of your remote control. That is the power you have

 

[Plumfool]

That could happen to every single one of us at any time, and yet we all manage to get by. So don't cry a river over a guy who currently has a deal he can sign that will pay him enough money in 1 year where he could make $390,000 per year for the rest of his life.

By the way, they have this thing called "health insurance" that helps protect you against lengthy hospital stays.

False. "WE all don't manage to get by." Unpaid hospital bills are over 40 billion dollars a year. And those with health insurance still struggle because of High-deductible insurance plans requiring consumers to pay more out-of-pocket costs.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You are the master of your remote control. That is the power you have

Wrong again Dooms. That would be my kids you are addressing. Good luck getting them to listen thou....

 

[BigStar]

Before the corny comments ensue, I'd like to remind people this is a BUSINESS. Just because you'd take $13 million in a heartbeat doesn't mean Dez should. He has every right to maximize his value and financial security for his family.

Thank you...was getting tired of this theme:
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[Irvin88_4life]

That isn't sufficient security if he goes out there and breaks his neck.

13 million isn't sufficient enough? Haha if I broke my neck I would be so damn happy with 13 million. The problem is these guys wants money in case they get hurt. ........I'm going to tell my boss to pay me money that way if I get hurt I have money coming to me I didn't earn

 

[AsthmaField]

It will all work itself out eventually.

The thing that amazes me about discussions of this sort are that it's always centered around Owners and Players. Aren't we, the fans, what this is all about? Without the fans, there would be no money. Yet it's never viewed in that way. LOL.........

I demand representation!!!!!!!

You know... you're right. Where is my security?

 

[Doomsday101]

Wrong again Dooms. That would be my kids you are addressing. Good luck getting them to listen thou....

dang, not even on fathers day? lol

 

[DOUBLE WING]

Many of you must have missed when a picture of Pittsburgh Pirates All-Star Andrew McCutchen's pay stub leaked a month or two ago. The amount of taxes that get taken out of a professional athletes salary are ridiculous, and it kind of puts into perspective Latrell Sprewell's famous "make enough to feed my family" quote.

Now, do I expect anyone to feel sorry for McCutchen or Dez? Of course not, they're still multimillionaires, but $13 million to Dez Bryant isn't exactly $13 million going directly into his bank account.