Did anyone hear the Norm and Haley interview

[waving monkey]

You have no idea what the reality really is. And if you want to take Haley, of all people, as the authoritative source, then, LOL, go right ahead.

If I were in the business of NFL pass rusher I would certainly listen to CHaley.as an authority.
Outside of that maybe not.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I am not shocked... Kid has gotten by just on his natural talent...

Randy Gregory has always worked hard and it showed as his technique in college was excellent. Nothing that I've watched from Gregory in college showed me that he got by purely on his natural talent. It showed that he spent countless hours refining his technique.




YR

 

[Crown Royal]

Randy Gregory has always worked hard and it showed as his technique in college was excellent. Nothing that I've watched from Gregory in college showed me that he got by purely on his natural talent. It showed that he spent countless hours refining his technique.




YR

Yeah the few videos I saw showed great awareness of technique. As a matter of fact, his comments about Tyron after their first practice was that it was like playing chess against him, as Smith is a fantastic technician.

That said, Gregory needs to start showing some wins. I reckon it will happen in the next few days.

 

[Idgit]

25 year old college grads have always been socially inept.

College degrees are largely meaningless (because you are not learning anything related to a future job a huge percentage of the time) yet these kids are being told to go get them. An MBA has put in a great deal of effort (and spent 100k at times) to get a degree that is worth 50k a year coming out. That's just sad.

Old people have always struggled ot relate to younger people. That's hardly new. It's every generation.
20 years ago 40 year olds thought 20 year year olds were mostly stupid, lazy and useless.

“Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book.” -- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BCE.

 

[AsthmaField]

“Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book.” -- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BCE.

I'd give you 100 likes for that if I could.

 

[CATCH17]

“Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book.” -- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BCE.

Oldies gonna old.

 

[Iago33]

“Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book.” -- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BCE.

What's this thing called "book"?

 

[jterrell]

Understand, this isn't the entire lot. I've also hired some good ones.

And no, the degrees aren't meaningless because you can't even get in the door in most companies without one. It's a requirement. MBAs are truly valuable in the right context.

Mostly, you can tell a lot about a kid's upbringing. People just don't raise their kids anymore. Too many kids are ignored or "befriended" by their parents, and they have excuses made for them at every turn. It's the participation ribbon effect.

But there are still good ones out there coming out of college. Just have to look harder and screen them better.

Funny, but after all these years, a proper handshake and intent look in the eye is still very telling. I can't tell you how many dead fish handshakes are out there.

MBAs are not valued. Not statistically or financially as compared to past generations.
They largely qualify a person to enter a mgmt in training type program that pays for crap.
My niece and sister both have MBAs(Tech and TAMU).

MBAs with good experience often can soar but it is based upon factors long after college.

Places requiring an MBA in the door or the ones who have to hire 100 guys to find 10 good ones. It is is a stupid policy.
They'd be far better off recruiting talent for the specific field with marginal education but great work experience.

All that said elite business schools do very well. But elite anything does well.

My BA is in English with a double minor in History/Philosophy. My initial aim was Law School but then I met my wife and had kids and being an IT engineer paid too well to leave for school. I've also interviewed a ton of people and mentored a number of college grads.
The degree'd ones are slightly better on average but often cost more and have less potential for growth.

Only 15% of CEO's are MBAs alone. Engineering degrees come in first with 25%. Law degrees represent 11%.
The numbers are somewhat misleading because there are simply so many more MBAs handed out.
Back in 2000 MBA was what was advised as opposed to the pointless general BA but nowadays the general BA degree is doing just as well if not better.
MBA are a dime a dozen.

The average MBA will get out of school after one low level internship and grab a PMI cert for project management.
They can lead meetings and gather requirements and understand process.
They generally provide zero new solutions however.
New solutions are where the actual value is to a company.

 

[AsthmaField]

MBAs are not valued. Not statistically or financially as compared to past generations.
They largely qualify a person to enter a mgmt in training type program that pays for crap.
My niece and sister both have MBAs(Tech and TAMU).

MBAs with good experience often can soar but it is based upon factors long after college.

Places requiring an MBA in the door or the ones who have to hire 100 guys to find 10 good ones. It is is a stupid policy.
They'd be far better off recruiting talent for the specific field with marginal education but great work experience.

All that said elite business schools do very well. But elite anything does well.

My BA is in English with a double minor in History/Philosophy. My initial aim was Law School but then I met my wife and had kids and being an IT engineer paid too well to leave for school. I've also interviewed a ton of people and mentored a number of college grads.
The degree'd ones are slightly better on average but often cost more and have less potential for growth.

Only 15% of CEO's are MBAs alone. Engineering degrees come in first with 25%. Law degrees represent 11%.
The numbers are somewhat misleading because there are simply so many more MBAs handed out.
Back in 2000 MBA was what was advised as opposed to the pointless general BA but nowadays the general BA degree is doing just as well if not better.
MBA are a dime a dozen.

The average MBA will get out of school after one low level internship and grab a PMI cert for project management.
They can lead meetings and gather requirements and understand process.
They generally provide zero new solutions however.
New solutions are where the actual value is to a company.

I have a BS in Microbiology with a double-minor in Mathematics / Chemistry... and I literally can't find a job, lol.

 

[MRV52]

At the same time though... This whole thing is a grind..

Everyone saw how hard they were practicing today.


I don't blame them for not wanting to study all the time. You'd get burned out so quick in this environment if you don't get away from football every chance you get.

Today's training camps are not a grind but more like cupcake practices. Back in the day it was two a days and full pads it was much tougher.

 

[erod]

MBAs are not valued. Not statistically or financially as compared to past generations.
They largely qualify a person to enter a mgmt in training type program that pays for crap.
My niece and sister both have MBAs(Tech and TAMU).

MBAs with good experience often can soar but it is based upon factors long after college.

Places requiring an MBA in the door or the ones who have to hire 100 guys to find 10 good ones. It is is a stupid policy.
They'd be far better off recruiting talent for the specific field with marginal education but great work experience.

All that said elite business schools do very well. But elite anything does well.

My BA is in English with a double minor in History/Philosophy. My initial aim was Law School but then I met my wife and had kids and being an IT engineer paid too well to leave for school. I've also interviewed a ton of people and mentored a number of college grads.
The degree'd ones are slightly better on average but often cost more and have less potential for growth.

Only 15% of CEO's are MBAs alone. Engineering degrees come in first with 25%. Law degrees represent 11%.
The numbers are somewhat misleading because there are simply so many more MBAs handed out.
Back in 2000 MBA was what was advised as opposed to the pointless general BA but nowadays the general BA degree is doing just as well if not better.
MBA are a dime a dozen.

The average MBA will get out of school after one low level internship and grab a PMI cert for project management.
They can lead meetings and gather requirements and understand process.
They generally provide zero new solutions however.
New solutions are where the actual value is to a company.

All that is fine and true. However, an MBA can be a prerequisite in many instances to get the opportunity to get the real opportunity.

The smart thing for an MBA to do is get a good corporate sales job first with a management growth plan. Prove it there, and the sky is the limit. Sales, especially high-level involved types of sales, is the number one problem to solve.

 

[Corso]

I have a BS in Microbiology with a double-minor in Mathematics / Chemistry... and I literally can't find a job, lol.

I like your credentials, care for a job helping me to take over the world?

I don't pay well, but the hours stink.

 

[erod]

Oldies gonna old.

No, us "oldies" are doing the hiring, buddy.

 

[AsthmaField]

I like your credentials, care for a job helping me to take over the world?

I don't pay well, but the hours stink.

Count me in.

I'll take the northern hemisphere.

 

[windjc]

Today's training camps are not a grind but more like cupcake practices. Back in the day it was two a days and full pads it was much tougher.

"Eh sonny, back 'n my day things were different, different I tell 'ya! We didn't have any of the fancy things you whippersnappers have today. Eh. Life was hard. We had to practice six times a day, in the SNOW I tell ya. Yeah, that's right. In the snow even in August. And when it wasn't snowing it was 120 degrees I tell ya. And we practiced 6 times a day in that. It was called six-a-days. And when we were finished with our six-a-days we were allowed to eat 1 sandwich. 1 sandwich I tell ya! And while we ate that sandwich we had to watch film. But not just film of ourselves. We had to watch film of every player that played our position on every team over the history of time. That's right. Every piece of film ever made on our position. And if we didn't finish? We lost our only sandwich. Nothing like today's EASY life. All you whippersnappers today, you have as many sandwiches as you want. And practice ends at 5:30. It disgusts me. Eh."

 

[Sportsbabe]

conceited,

Be gentle....sometimes the auto correct monster rears his ugly head.

 

[jrumann59]

A young College kid that thinks he know it all, color me surprised, NOT.

 

[DenCWBY]

Dang, These dudes (rookies) are all drinking from the fire hose right now. Lets give him a few pre season games at least.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Great observation.

Millennials are very different cats. I'm around them all the time and GENERALLY -- As a group, non religious, everything has to be proven, don't trust banks, feel Boomers (me) climbed the corporate ladder and pulled it up behind them, poor social skills due to smart phones (they hate even talking on the phone), don't take criticism well and enjoy criticizing others but not in person and very pessimistic about their future with staggering social and technological changes coming in the next ten years (to their credit - much of it coming from them).

Now, I'm not sure this all applies to Gregory and you can't put a box around everybody (as I would not to all Millenials here on the boards) but all of us are products of our environment and upbringing.

Dang liberal millennials! Oh wait, I'm one of them.

 

[MonsterD]

"And while we ate that sandwich we had to watch film. But not just film of ourselves. We had to watch film of every player that played our position on every team over the history of time."

And they had to watch it on a 5" black and white Cathode ray tube, half of them got Glaucoma after a season of watching film(were radioactive as well).