DMN Blog: 10 Cowboys Lead Pro Bowl Voting...Hitting 300...NFL Cashing in on TOs Towel

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theogt;1766178 said:
Ok. $10 to anyone that can find where this is on the site. :(


Todd Archer emailed me back, the info is only available to media
 

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Quick question, since it Commander week and Dallas is so overrated and they are the "real' America's Team (odd that only their fans think so).

How many Commanders are the leading their positions in Pro Bowl voting?
 

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03EBZ06;1766232 said:
Email Todd and ask him to keep us posted daily. :D

I did ask if he was gonna keep us updated through the blog :)
 

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cowboyeric8;1766141 said:
Have you watched Adrian Wilson play?
In person twice this year. He is a complete safety. He hits like Roy but can also cover, make plays, and is a leader. You and stat boy can get bent out of shape by my opinion if you wish.
 

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jimmy4713;1766239 said:
In person twice this year. He is a complete safety. He hits like Roy but can also cover, make plays, and is a leader. You and stat boy can get bent out of shape by my opinion if you wish.
Nobody's bent out of shape about your opinion. I can see why someone would prefer an Adrian Wilson to a Roy Williams. I think many people prefer two coverage safeties to a FS/SS combo nowadays and that's perfectly reasonable given the emphasis on passing game in today's NFL.

What people have a problem with is when people say "Roy sucks" (when obviously he's at least the 2nd best SS in the NFC) or when people act shocked that anyone would think Roy is the best.
 

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jimmy4713;1766239 said:
but can also cover,


Umm no he cant, even Cardinal fans know that

The first thing Clancy Pendergast has to do is find a way to maximize the strengths of his personnel. Pendergast deserves kudos for the way in which he has tailored All-Pro SS Adrian Wilson’s role in order to take advantage of Wilson’s superb aggressiveness and blitzing ability. Wilson (6-3, 230, 7th, N.C. St.), is a major force to be reckoned with. Opponents always have to be aware of where he is lined up, not only to determine what pass coverage the Cardinals are in, but also to adjust their blocking assignments so as not to allow Wilson a clear path to the QB.


Wilson thrives in the box, where he makes full use of his instincts to attack the ball. As a deep safety in coverage, Wilson tends to struggle more often than not. He gets a little flat-footed and often finds himself caught in no-man’s land trying to read whether the pass is coming underneath or behind him. This deficiency in Wilson’s game presents a major problem for Clancy Pendergast in terms of how Pendergast runs his base defense. If Pendergast plays Wilson in the box, which he is inclined to do, he is leaving his defense vulnerable to the intermediate and deep pass.


With Wilson in the box, an extreme amount of pressure falls on the free safety because now he has to read the play and protect whatever deep third might be attacked. Last year that free safety was Robert Griffith, a converted strong safety, who forced the run with aplomb, but did not display the range or sudden instincts to get to many deep passes.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/2007/07/cardinals-pre-camp-defensive-back-analysis/
 

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Rack;1766217 said:
What difference does it make whether he's played on the left or right? Playing at a probowl level is playing at a probowl level. And Newman HAS been playing at a probowl level. And he didn't miss enough games for it to be a factor. Romo only played in 10 games last year so there goes that logic right out the freakin' window.

How can Newman be playing at a Pro Bowl level, when he's not even playing his normal position or even at 100%?

Romo = Newman???

You guys are making me laugh!

:rolleyes:
 

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theogt;1766247 said:
Nobody's bent out of shape about your opinion. I can see why someone would prefer an Adrian Wilson to a Roy Williams. I think many people prefer two coverage safeties to a FS/SS combo nowadays and that's perfectly reasonable given the emphasis on passing game in today's NFL.

What people have a problem with is when people say "Roy sucks" (when obviously he's at least the 2nd best SS in the NFC) or when people act shocked that anyone would think Roy is the best.

Good post some of these Roy bashings are just to much. Being a more senior (sic) Cowboy fan and having watched every team the Cowboys have ever fielded I can tell you there are a bunch of Ex Cowboy safeties who are glad Madden and FF didn't exist when they were playing. LOL!
 

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cowboyeric8;1766141 said:
Thats just like Roy playing a LB spot. That argument has no value. Have you watched Adrian Wilson play?
Roy plays lb in the nickel and dime because wade doesn't trust Roy as much as he trusts watkins on obvious passing downs.
 

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bigbadroy;1766271 said:
Roy plays lb in the nickel and dime because wade doesn't trust Roy as much as he trusts watkins on obvious passing downs.

Someone without an agenda might determine it's because they trust Roy in coverage more than a linebacker.....
 

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BigDFan5;1766251 said:
Umm no he cant, even Cardinal fans know that

According to STATS LLC, Wilson allowed a 67.2 percent completion rate last season -- one of the worst in the league. Roy allowed a 39.7 percent completion rate, one of the best in the league.

So who can cover, and who can't?
 

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dallasfaniac;1766282 said:
Someone without an agenda might determine it's because they trust Roy in coverage more than a linebacker.....
again!:laugh2: what a way to twist it. well he is a safety and the only one in the league who plays lb on obvious passing downs. you figure it out
 

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bigbadroy;1766271 said:
Roy plays lb in the nickel and dime because wade doesn't trust Roy as much as he trusts watkins on obvious passing downs.
Now that's some busted *** logic. I swear some of dumbest things I've ever read on this board come from your screenname.
 

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AdamJT13;1766289 said:
According to STATS LLC, Wilson allowed a 67.2 percent completion rate last season -- one of the worst in the league. Roy allowed a 39.7 percent completion rate, one of the best in the league.

So who can cover, and who can't?

Reality has no place in these discussions Adam you know that


Roy Willy is the sux00rs!!11!!1
 

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bigbadroy;1766290 said:
again!:laugh2: what a way to twist it. well he is a safety and the only one in the league who plays lb on obvious passing downs. you figure it out

What is hard to figure out? He isn't benched, they bench a linebacker and move Roy over there.

I could see your argument if they moved Roy to linebacker and put a linebacker at strong safety or even benched Roy, but they don't.

They move Roy to linebacker because he can cover better. They put a corner or free safety in Roy's vacated spot. This shows they trust Roy better in coverages than a linebacker and his hitting near the line better than corners and free safeties.

You sir have an agenda and it is disgusting.
 

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theogt;1766293 said:
Now that's some busted *** logic. I swear some of dumbest things I've ever read on this board come from your screenname.
why do think we take him out of his position and play him closer to the line of scrimmage on passing downs?
 

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bigbadroy;1766290 said:
well he is a safety and the only one in the league who plays lb on obvious passing downs. you figure it out
He is a SS, he is built closer to LB'ers than CB. FS is built more like CBs and because of that Roy at times chip in as a LB, based on scheme.
 

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bigbadroy;1766271 said:
Roy plays lb in the nickel and dime because wade doesn't trust Roy as much as he trusts watkins on obvious passing downs.

Or maybe its because he can tackle well and is a force at the line of scrimmage. Hmm, might not fit your agenda though.
 

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bigbadroy;1766306 said:
why do think we take him out of his position and play him closer to the line of scrimmage on passing downs?
It's a dime package. A dime packages replaces a player that is not good in coverage (e.g., a linebacker) with a player that is good in coverage (e.g., a defensive back).

Wade has used this type of package at other stops. He takes his SS and moves him "in the hole" or in the linebacker position and has another safety play over the top.

Is it seriously too much to ask for you to think before you post?
 
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