DMN Blog: Cowboys refuse to apologize for win/Brooking cherishes the win

[The30YardSlant]

I'll tell you who should apologize and that's Larry Johnson, to his teamates, his coaches, his fans, his owners, the NFL and basically to anyone who saw that pathetic effort he put out today. The NFL should take his game pay and give it to Miles Austin.

Agreed. If I were Todd Haley, I'd be looking to cut/trade him as soon as possible. That guy has gone from an elite back to a cancer.

 

[Air Force One]

Ah, so you can admit it is too soon to wave a white flag.

Would you still feel it is too early to wave the white flag had we lost today?

 

[theogt]

Sure I can

Record in final 11 games:

2005: 6-5
2006: 6-5
2007: 8-3 (But 2-2 in December)
2008: 5-6

Our final 11 games are far tougher this year than in any of the above years.

Wade Phillips record in final 11 games as a head coach:

1993: 6-5
1994: 6-5
1998: 7-4
1999: 7-4
2000: 6-5
2007: 8-3 (But 2-2 in December)
2008: 5-6

He has never had a December over .500 as a head coach for a full season.

You've still done nothing to refute, other than saying Romo's record as a starter "when healthy" (a completely arbitrary statement that assumes he wasnt healthy in games in which he wasnt listed on the injury report) says we will win 75% of our remaining games.

That's deep, man

Ah yes...the argument that somehow games played nearly two decades ago are more relevant than games played with the players on this actual team.

My apologies, why did I ever think that your argument was kaput?

 

[jimmy40]

Agreed. If I were Todd Haley, I'd be looking to cut/trade him as soon as possible. That guy has gone from an elite back to a cancer.

I'm pretty sure that's what Johnson is trying to accomplish. Doesn't he have a huge contract though?

 

[Rampage]

Ah yes...the argument that some how games played nearly two decades ago are more relevant than games played with the players on this actual team.

My apologies, why did I ever think that your argument was kaput?

:laugh2: now you're doing what you said he was doing and that's taking the stats that fit your agenda. what about the stats he posted since 2006?

 

[The30YardSlant]

I'm fully aware that you want to restrict your statistical analysis to a couple games this season when it suits you and expand your statistical analysis to literally decades old statistics at other times when it suits you.

But, you just can't and have (intelligent) people take you seriously. Sorry, that's just how it works.

I'm not restricting anything. I'm acknowledging Romo's fantastic rcord as a starter, while also acknowledging that history tells us this team won't get it together, but will fact decline further. We have digressed from start to finish every year since 2005, why on earth would you think that trend will end now?

That is still the question, a question you have repeatedly refused to answer with anything other than "Because I think we have the talent and coaching to do it".

Hell, Texas A&M has had great recruiting classes and a coaching staff full of successful men from both the NFL and college. Does that mean we'll turn it around and finish 10-2 this year? Nope

 

[utrunner07]

Ah yes...the argument that some how games played nearly two decades ago are more relevant than games played with the players on this actual team.

My apologies, why did I ever think that your argument was kaput?

If you have played bad in december for two decades odds are you are going to do the same next december. especially when nothing has changed from the last couple of years.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Ah yes...the argument that somehow games played nearly two decades ago are more relevant than games played with the players on this actual team.

They arent. Games played with the current players say we will digress and miss the playoffs because we are soft, mentally fragile and poorly coached

 

[theogt]

:laugh2: now you're doing what you said he was doing and that's taking the stats that fit your agenda. what about the stats he posted since 2006?

You mean the stats from 2007 to 2009 when Romo was healthy? Showing the .750 winning percentage?

I'm not restricting anything.

Actually, that's exactly what you were doing.

I'm acknowledging Romo's fantastic rcord as a starter, while also acknowledging that history tells us this team won't get it together, but will fact decline further. We have digressed from start to finish every year since 2005, why on earth would you think that trend will end now?

That is still the question, a question you have repeatedly refused to answer with anything other than "Because I think we have the talent and coaching to do it".

I know you've actually read my posts, so I know you realize this isn't true.

Gosh, unless you're even ...err... less intelligent than I had supposed.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I'm pretty sure that's what Johnson is trying to accomplish. Doesn't he have a huge contract though?

I don't care, there's no room for his **** in this league

TO was a cancer at times, but at least he brought it on sundays and never took a play off

 

[Bach]

Ah, so you can admit it is too soon to wave a white flag.

I sincerely apologize. Thank you for proving me wrong.

Sorry, but I don't recall waving a white flag. But I do know the schedule gets much tougher the rest of the way. Not many Tampa's, Carolina's or KC's left.

Today I saw a team make the same old mistakes they've made the last 2 years and then throw in some new mistakes and barely beat a pathetic winless Chiefs team that was compared this past week to the '89 1-15 Cowboys.

However, trends do matter. I have yet to see Dallas play an inspiring 4 quarters. You see, the '07 Giants at some point did play a good game, and then another and another, as strung some wins together and then took the undefeated Patriots down to the wire. It'd take Dallas doing the same thing and then some. But so far they haven't shown any signs they can do so. Doesn't mean it's impossible, but it is improbable.

 

[Hostile]

Would you still feel it is too early to wave the white flag had we lost today?

Probably. It is just week 5.

Look, I am not saying this team doesn't need to improve. I have never said that. Look at the Touch of Hostility threads for all the proof you will ever need.

But the idea we are missing the playoffs after week 5 is lace panties crap that I will never respect and I don't care whose feelings it hurts. That is pure stupid.

I laid out a challenge to utrunner07. Name all 12 playoff teams right now. No one can do that. I could go pick a random season and give you the records of all 32 teams after 5 weeks and unless you got lucky you couldn't do it for any season.

Doing it for any team is Chicken Little nonsense. Yes, a team with a 4-1 or 5-0 record is more likely to get there than a 3-2 team and a 2-3 team. But the bottom line is 2-3 teams and...GASP...3-2 teams make the playoffs every year. Despite the hand wringing this team is not doomed.

Why is it so hard to admit that? I will never understand that.

I am fine with saying the team has to improve, but that isn't the sum total of the claims I am attacking. Is it? You know it isn't and so do these guys even if it will pain them to admit it.

 

[peplaw06]

Would you still feel it is too early to wave the white flag had we lost today?

I guess not if you live in France.

 

[theogt]

They arent. Games played with the current players say we will digress and miss the playoffs because we are soft, mentally fragile and poorly coached

20-7.

 

[The30YardSlant]

20-7.

2005: 6-5
2006: 6-5
2007: 8-3 (But 2-2 in December)
2008: 5-6

We can do this all night

 

[peplaw06]

If you have played bad in december for two decades odds are you are going to do the same next december. especially when nothing has changed from the last couple of years.

Depends on if you believe in voodoo or not.

 

[Rampage]

You mean the stats from 2007 to 2009 when Romo was healthy? Showing the .750 winning percentage?

you just did it again!:laugh2: no, the stat he posted about this team playing mediocre ball in december and the last 8 games of the season even with "a healthy Romo". to be honest you use the injury excuse too much. it's part of the game. teams play hurt and lose players to injuries all the time and still have success.

 

[JonJon]

I don't care, there's no room for his **** in this league

TO was a cancer at times, but at least he brought it on sundays and never took a play off

Eeek....I'm as big a TO supporter as you will probably find now days but even I know that statement isn't true.

 

[The30YardSlant]

20-7.

Romo was healthy in '06 and '07, what's your excuse for those end of the year declines

 

[peplaw06]

2005: 6-5
2006: 6-5
2007: 8-3 (But 2-2 in December)
2008: 5-6

We can do this all night

Jeebus man... You have a season posted in there where we finished 8-3... exactly what Theo is believing we could finish. Your parenthetical doesn't change that fact, no matter how much you think it does.