DMN Blog: Deion filets Roy (WR) Williams

[Rampage]

He's the only one I've talked good about... Evidence? The hypocrisy on this forum is just amusing. For three years the anti-TO brigade was whining and whining, castigating Jerry everyday, saying this organization was headed for disaster. When TO is released, they have the audacity to complain that other people 'whine' and they then make stupid comments like "go route for the Bills". I'm whining because Jerry kept the idiot Garrett and released whom Calvin Hill even said was the hardest worker he has ever seen and whose impact on the offense on a bad day was more than Garrett ever contributed to this team. It is the nostalgia of the nineties that the Red-headed idiot is here.

all you do is whine about the cancer getting released. dude isn't even a top 5 wr anymore. are you a Cowboys fan or just a T.O. fan?

 

[DeaconBlues]

Witten doesnt need buffalo bill to be a great player. End that right now.

I don’t think anyone is saying he needs TO to be a great player, but all TE’s need a WR as a threat to be effective. Since you brought up 2004, the offense was mediocre at best, with KJ only catching 1 ball less per Witten. If all RW can do is catch one ball per game better than Witten, then the offense will likely be mediocre again.

and secondly, it isnt a racial issue and never has been.

Then why bring it up? You started this by accusing Deion and the NFL Network team for having an axe to grind because “the white guys didnt fired or blamed.”
Sounds likely you view this exactly as a racial issue.

Except for some reason in this market it has turned into one. And a small group of guys at the nfl network have outright said it and I think alot of people then piggy back on it.

The radio stations here have to deal with this all day whenever cowboys football is talked about. The minute football comes up, someone calls up whining about buffalo bill and how the white media couldnt wait to get rid of him and how garrett and romo suck...catch the drift.

I guess I’m one of “kill whitey” team members, since I basically agree with this. I do believe the media has been out against TO, if not personally, then at least to each make their reputations by reporting on every single thing the guy did in a negative light.

And last year, Garrett did suck. His play calling was atrocious. While I won’t go as far as saying Romo sucks, if he has one or two more years like 2008, then Dallas will be looking for a new QB. That’s not having an agenda, that’s reality.

So again, IMO it is not and has never been racial in any form. Its about 1 person, the same 1 person who has had the same problem in two other spots. That is why it is so frustating for me to listen to everyone calling the radio stations all day with their kill whitey mantra.

I guess I was just watching a different version of the NFL Network than what you got.

I think there’s a lot of selective hearing on everyone’s part. Yes, Deion et al have been on TO’s side, but to say its racial is ridiculous. Dallas played horribly from the 4th game forward. Everyone on Dallas’ bandwagon jumped off with a vengeance, even Deion. The only reason it became “racial” in some minds is that most of the blame falls on the trust that put this team together and was responsible for the plays: Jones, Phillips, Garrett and Romo. The fact that they are all white is inescapable, as well as beside the point.

 

[khiladi]

What is your point? Roy Williams isn't a top five receiver nor is Miles Austin. I'm asking for evidence. Your not providing it. Your wrong simply on the fact I'm not just whining about the release of TO, I'm whining that Garrett is still here. So once again, you can whine for the whole year that TO needs to be released, and RW for 2 years, and I can't complain about TO when the off-season is here and not much football is going on? Nice...

 

[NeonNinja]

I think he asked are you a Cowboys fan or a TO fan?

 

[Rampage]

What is your point? Roy Williams isn't a top five receiver nor is Miles Austin. I'm asking for evidence. Your not providing it. Your wrong simply on the fact I'm not just whining about the release of TO, I'm whining that Garrett is still here. So once again, you can whine for the whole year that TO needs to be released, and RW for 2 years, and I can't complain about TO when the off-season is here and not much football is going on? Nice...

that's all you do. whenever i see a thread and see you're the last to post it's always some whinefest about the cancer. are you a cowboys fan or just a cancer fan?

 

[DeaconBlues]

that's all you do. whenever i see a thread and see you're the last to post it's always some whinefest about the cancer. are you a cowboys fan or just a cancer fan?

If whining was a defining moment for staying here, this place would be a very lonely place.

 

[Dallas]

all you do is whine about the cancer getting released. dude isn't even a top 5 wr anymore. are you a Cowboys fan or just a T.O. fan?

I have looked at a few top 10 WR's lists in the NFL today. Not one of them has WR RW on it.


Mr. Unmentionable is anywhere from 4-7 on these lists.


Just sayin.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I caught just the very end of him on Irvin's show today and he was saying we'd win about seven games and our offense was utterly doomed this year.

Rarely has a case of butt-hurt been so evident through the radio.

As plenty others have said... Deion is a self-serving idiot. Nothing more.

 

[NeonNinja]

Deion and Irvin are just hating cause their boy TO was released, plain and simple. Blah Blah Blah....

 

[twentytwo]

I guess I’m one of “kill whitey” team members, since I basically agree with this. I do believe the media has been out against TO, if not personally, then at least to each make their reputations by reporting on every single thing the guy did in a negative light.

I agree with this. I also think that was a big reason that TO was released. Not necessarily for how he was actually acting, but because of the negative media attention that he brought to the team. It may not have been completely warranted, but it happened. Nobody can argue with that.

Jerry decided that getting rid of the negative media attention that TO brought to the team was more important than keeping him for his talent.

Was it the right decision? I don't know. I guess we'll find out next year....kind of. Here is what I think is going to happen though:
1. If we suck next year - everyone is going to say we should have kept TO.
2. If we play well (maybe even win a playoff game!), then those same people are going to say it was because we had a better running attack and Jason Garrett improved his playcalling, etc.


I think we can all agree on one thing though....it's been nice to be a little bit removed from the spotlight. (Thanks Jay!)

 

[Rampage]

I have looked at a few top 10 WR's lists in the NFL today. Not one of them has WR RW on it.


Mr. Unmentionable is anywhere from 4-7 on these lists.


Just sayin.

my point is he talks about Owens like he's still a top 5 wr. off the top of my head i'd say

#1 Larry Fitz
#2 Randy Moss
#3 Calvin Johnson
#4 Andre Johnson
#5 Anquan Boldin

 

[RoadRunner]

who cares what that tard says. Go do another reality show and keep that spotlight shining right on your bald dome dude.

and in 2004, we lost dan campbell and terry glenn. Jason witten had his best season, he was basically unstoppable that year. So there goes that theory.

That little group from the nfl network is going to be impossible to watch just like espn this year. They are all mad the white guys didnt fired or blamed so they are going to have an axe to grind all season.

That "tard" is the very best cover corner I ever saw in this league from the late 1970s to now. I very much do value his opinion on WRs. There are few on this planet as qualified to discuss it as he.

 

[Rampage]

That "tard" is the very best cover corner I ever saw in this league from the late 1970s to now. I very much do value his opinion on WRs. There are few on this planet as qualified to discuss it as he.

his opinion is biased though.

 

[RoadRunner]

So were none of these flaws evident as a Lion or did he suddenly become a turd after the trade? Why would Jerry trade for a player with this many (alleged) shortcomings?

Jerry originally made the deal so that RW qould be a compliment to Witten and Owens. No he is expected to be a number 1.

 

[DeaconBlues]

Deion and Irvin are just hating cause their boy TO was released, plain and simple. Blah Blah Blah....

Yeah, its not like they have tape of RW wandering around the field instead of his routes last season . . .

 

[RoadRunner]

his opinion is biased though.

Biased or not what he states in that OP is the reality of what we are facing in 2009. That does not mean that RW won't step up, but that is what we must now hope for.

 

[Dallas]

my point is he talks about Owens like he's still a top 5 wr. off the top of my head i'd say

#1 Larry Fitz
#2 Randy Moss
#3 Calvin Johnson
#4 Andre Johnson
#5 Anquan Boldin

My list would be about the same. I think I could put Steve Smith up there and drop Calvin Johnson way down (not a fan of his yet..he may go off this year though).

1. Fitz
2. Moss
3. Dre Johnson
4. S. Smith
5. Reggie Wayne

 

[Rampage]

Biased or not what he states in that OP is the reality of what we are facing in 2009. That does not mean that RW won't step up, but that is what we must now hope for.

you'll see

My list would be about the same. I think I could put Steve Smith up there and drop Calvin Johnson way down (not a fan of his yet..he may go off this year though).

1. Fitz
2. Moss
3. Dre Johnson
4. S. Smith
5. Reggie Wayne

exactly he's not even worth argueing over anymore if he isn't even a top 5 wr. I put Calvin on my list cause he had very good number while playing on the worst team ever and with 3 different qbs.

 

[MWILL]

my point is he talks about Owens like he's still a top 5 wr. off the top of my head i'd say

#1 Larry Fitz
#2 Randy Moss
#3 Calvin Johnson
#4 Andre Johnson
#5 Anquan Boldin

Calvin Johnson! ........C'mon man.

 

[Rampage]

Calvin Johnson! ........C'mon man.

go look at his stats from last year while playing with 3 different terrible qbs and on the worst team in NFL history.