DMN Blog: Hard Knock life for Martellus Bennett... responds to episode

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dcfanatic;2193788 said:
Yeah, the first time I heard about Martellus Bennett was on HBO's Hard Knocks.

Are you for real?

You know that I live Cowboys 24/7 so I know every story out there and have listened/read/viewed everything about this kid since he was drafted.

But I never felt like he needed a wake up call until I saw Hard Knocks?

Come on now.

Then scouting reports you have seen must have been much different than I have seen with him or the views from the Texas A&M coaching staff views on Bennett or ever watched him play. Bennett has always been a bit different but he is very coachable and does put in the work
 

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Doomsday101;2193817 said:
Then scouting reports you have seen must have been much different than I have seen with him or the views from the Texas A&M coaching staff views on Bennett or ever watched him play. Bennett has always been a bit different but he is very coachable and does put in the work

Is that why in the draft room they said you would have to step on his throat?
 

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aikemirv;2193792 said:
I am kind of surprised at you Dooms. TO, coming to Dallas had big problems with his position coach and his coach. I think you, like me were not a big fan of TO coming because of his attitude. It was not about on field production with him, it was the off the field stuff.

But you give this rook a free pass on that same type of attitude thing?

TO has a long history with SF and Philly as well as Garcia and McNabb. It was not one incident that made me be leery of TO. Thus far he has been nothing but good for this team and his relationship with Wade and members of this team have been great.

What I see with Bennett is a witch hunt on a young kid. You want to judge do it by his play if he fails he fails but I'm not going to throw this kid under the bus because his body language or because some fans wanted to draft someone else and got their panties in a wad over the selction and last but not least because of so called reality show that is far from reality.

Judge him on the field that is all I ask if that is too fair for some to handle then so be it.
 

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aikemirv;2193823 said:
Is that why in the draft room they said you would have to step on his throat?

Who said it? Evidently you really don't know much about him. Living here in Texas many of us have seen Bennett play and have heard what coachs at A&M have had to say about him. You can judge him by his play or by all the talk the choice is yours.
 

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The kid does seem to be immature and may have a problem with authority.................. he is also only what 21, 22 years old? I'm not trying to make excuses for him. After all Felix, Choice, etc..... are also young and don't 'appear' to have the same kind of issues. But not everyone matures at the same rate. T.O. is a good example of that.

Also, Hardknocks is a TV show. I believe they said for every hour of film that makes it to tv, 300-400 hours of film is edited out. Although what we actually see on the screen is not doctored using special effects, they can piece together 10 second clips of film from here and there to paint a particular picture of a player, coach, owner, gm, etc... only to come back a week or two later and show the 'DRAMATIC' improvement in performence. They do this in order to create intrigue and suspense so people would tune in. They did the same thing to Ray Lewis' brother.

Don't get me wrong, i don't like what i'm seeing on tv from Bennett but i will give him the benefit of the doubt for a little while longer before i jump off the edge.

If he really has an issue, what i would like to see is something from the veterans and 'leaders' on this team. If they hadn't already, i wish they would kind of take him under thier wings and try to make him realize what kind of opportunity is sitting in front of him and make him accountable to his teammates. They can maybe do this in a way that doesn't make him defensive.

We have been screaming for leaders to step up on this team, this is the kind of things that players that are leaders take care of.

Just my two cents.
 

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dcfanatic;2193800 said:
Yeah, exactly. That's the only response you have because once again I pwned you.

And no, I am 12.

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12? Really?

Not very advanced for your age, are you?
 

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ethiostar;2193833 said:
The kid does seem to be immature and may have a problem with authority.................. he is also only what 21, 22 years old? I'm not trying to make excuses for him. After all Felix, Choice, etc..... are also young and don't 'appear' to have the same kind of issues. But not everyone matures at the same rate. T.O. is a good example of that.

Also, Hardknocks is a TV show. I believe they said for every hour of film that makes it to tv, 300-400 hours of film is edited out. Although what we actually see on the screen is not doctored using special effects, they can piece together 10 second clips of film from here and there to paint a particular picture of a player, coach, owner, gm, etc... only to come back a week or two later and show the 'DRAMATIC' improvement in performence. They do this in order to create intrigue and suspense so people would tune in. They did the same thing to Ray Lewis' brother.

Don't get me wrong, i don't like what i'm seeing on tv from Bennett but i will give him the benefit of the doubt for a little while longer before i jump off the edge.

If he really has an issue, what i would like to see is something from the veterans and 'leaders' on this team. If they hadn't already, i wish they would kind of take him under thier wings and try to make him realize what kind of opportunity is sitting in front of him and make him accountable to his teammates. They can maybe do this in a way that doesn't make him defensive.

We have been screaming for leaders to step up on this team, this is the kind of things that players that are leaders take care of.

Just my two cents.

I don't think TO is or has ever been immature he just wants to win. When you feel like your the guy and your open or you feel that your open and you don't get the ball in your hands your bound to explode.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2193840 said:
I don't think TO is or has ever been immature he just wants to win. When you feel like your the guy and your open or you feel that your open and you don't get the ball in your hands your bound to explode.

What are you talking about? TO himself has talked about how he has matured

T.O. says he has looked back at some of the things that have happened in his career and he's matured. Owens says
he's not going to go for the bait when reporters try to get him to say something controversial.
Owens saying he has matured is an admission in itself that he has acted like a child at times. T.O. even used my favorite
word when talking about him and his time here in Philly, "Nonsense". Yes that's the word "nonsense". Owens said he
had been involved in a lot of "nonsense" a year ago. He said he'll try to avoid some of the controversy this year
 

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DaBoys4Life;2193840 said:
I don't think TO is or has ever been immature he just wants to win. When you feel like your the guy and your open or you feel that your open and you don't get the ball in your hands your bound to explode.

I'm one of TOs biggest supporters. But i will be the first to admit that, in the past, T.O. didn't handle some situations in a very mature way like he does now. But i will say that TO was never the 'villan' that the mediots made him out to be.
 

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Doomsday101;2193830 said:
Who said it? Evidently you really don't know much about him. Living here in Texas many of us have seen Bennett play and have heard what coachs at A&M have had to say about him. You can judge him by his play or by all the talk the choice is yours.

Reportedly, it was Tom Ciskowski that said it.

I've read reports from posters on this board who have followed Bennett since high school and he has the reputation as a goof-off.

What I see on Hard Knocks is a disrespectful slug. Even if they edit out his good moments, it's apparent to anyone watching that this guy has issues.
 

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Chief;2193871 said:
Reportedly, it was Tom Ciskowski that said it.

I've read reports from posters on this board who have followed Bennett since high school and he has the reputation as a goof-off.

What I see on Hard Knocks is a disrespectful slug. Even if they edit out his good moments, it's apparent to anyone watching that this guy has issues.

I'm not saying that Bennett is not a bit different he is, all I'm saying is judge him by his play good or bad.
 

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Doomsday101;2193825 said:
TO has a long history with SF and Philly as well as Garcia and McNabb. It was not one incident that made me be leery of TO. Thus far he has been nothing but good for this team and his relationship with Wade and members of this team have been great.

What I see with Bennett is a witch hunt on a young kid. You want to judge do it by his play if he fails he fails but I'm not going to throw this kid under the bus because his body language or because some fans wanted to draft someone else and got their panties in a wad over the selction and last but not least because of so called reality show that is far from reality.

Judge him on the field that is all I ask if that is too fair for some to handle then so be it.

I am not throwing him under the bus at all. We are really just discussing an attitude that needs to be fixed IMO. I know there are some that want to get rid of him because they hated the trade and hated the subsequent pick no matter who it was.

I did not like the trade but I did not complain about the pick. From what I heard on draft day it all sounded good about the guys possibilitys. I still believe he has those possibilities but I think the bigger discussion here is, does the guy have the work effort and the attitude to accept coaching and realize he needs it.

He may have a decent career on ability alone, but if he does things the right way, he may have a great career. I think most are just scared by the flippant attitude he has shown and that is very understandable.
 
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Garrett knows Bennett has the talent to be one of the best in the game and some players need tough love. Bennett is responding on the field and that's all that matters.
 

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Doomsday101;2193669 said:
Mickey: Bennett has his moments in practices. OK, cut him for having a couple of back-to-back plays in his first NFL preseason game of any sort. Come on, show some patience. Plus, let's remember, sometimes this Hard Knocks stuff is made for TV, meaning they are showing you the footage to support an ongoing story line, not the entire story. OK, the kid mugged for the camera after John Garrett preached a little more to him. He's 21. You remember when you were 21?
Yes I do.

Difference is I didn't just get a check signed by Jerry Jones for $1.2 large to play for the freakin Dallas Cowboys!!!
 

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big dog cowboy;2193913 said:
Yes I do.

Difference is I didn't just get a check signed by Jerry Jones for $1.2 large to play for the freakin Dallas Cowboys!!!

And Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett have no issue or problem with him.
His position coach John Garrett made these comments:

Well, so far, it’s been a mixed bag on training camp opinions on this kid. Tight end coach John Garrett believes Bennett is starting to shine.

“He’s doing great. He really made a lot of progress so far, but particularly yesterday. He played with great urgency. He picked up some things in the offense as far as blitz adjustments really well. He’s a strong, powerful guy that is really working hard to master the footwork and the technique, so his progress has been great.”

What kills me is the fact that when good comments come from people within many will say what are they suppose to say but Peter King can make a comment or a writer make a comment and hey that is the truth?
 

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Chief;2193871 said:
Reportedly, it was Tom Ciskowski that said it.

I've read reports from posters on this board who have followed Bennett since high school and he has the reputation as a goof-off.

What I see on Hard Knocks is a disrespectful slug. Even if they edit out his good moments, it's apparent to anyone watching that this guy has issues.


On the money Chief. His actions speak a lot more about him than his words.
 

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If doesnt have a weak work ethic and it is HBO spin, then why did they have Magic have a talk with him about talent not being enough and having to work hard etc?

Im hoping his poor play against San Diego lights a fire under him, you cant get a more clear message then getting owned like he did.
 

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Doomsday101;2193925 said:
And Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett have no issue or problem with him.
His position coach John Garrett made these comments:

Well, so far, it’s been a mixed bag on training camp opinions on this kid. Tight end coach John Garrett believes Bennett is starting to shine.

“He’s doing great. He really made a lot of progress so far, but particularly yesterday. He played with great urgency. He picked up some things in the offense as far as blitz adjustments really well. He’s a strong, powerful guy that is really working hard to master the footwork and the technique, so his progress has been great.”

What kills me is the fact that when good comments come from people within many will say what are they suppose to say but Peter King can make a comment or a writer make a comment and hey that is the truth?

Because Peter King has no vested interest in anything he does.

Garrett, Phillips, Jerry all do because they coach him and made the decision to draft him. Of course they are always going to lean on the positive side of things will all of their players.

Everyone in the entire organization said Terry Glenn would be back and ready for the 2008 season with guns blazing when they were asked about him a few months ago.

Then we heard Jerry say he didn't even think Jerry was healthy enough to practice on Hard Knocks.

So when you say you can't believe everything the media says then I would say the same can be said for the Cowboys coaches, players and owners.
 
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