DMN: BLOG: Isaiah Stanback wants to put off surgery until after season

[DaBoys4Life]

I tend to agree with those who think that Stanback and the Cowboys may be better off letting him get the surgery sooner rather than later.

If Stanback is going to have to play with a harness all season, and if he may not be able to return KOs as well as before, it may be better to get a more experienced veteran in the next week or let a guy like Jefferson or Amendola take that last WR spot.

I guess the question is how effective is Stanback going to be playing with a harness? And he's already pretty raw as it is as a WR. His play as a KO returner was likely how he was going to make his "main" mark this season.

I think we should just cut our loses and put the Jones boys back their and either keep Jefferson or Amendola.

 

[stealth]

its never going to end is it

 

[DaBoys4Life]

its never going to end is it

It will when they cut him.

 

[FCBarca]

Sheesh why the Stanback hate?

I realize he hasn't done anything yet but apparently he has whizzed in some of you guys wheaties.

If he needs the surgery he should get it. He is not floating on some huge contract. He needs to take care of his financial asset which is his body. He would be risking serious injury to be a kick off return guy for us and thats not worth it.

Felix Jones needs to return kicks, he knows how to and is built for contact.

A few assumptions here.

First off, not seeing the 'hate' you're describing...I see frustration in a player that is a converted QB AND who has pretty much been injured for the majority of his time as a Cowboy (Dating back to before the draft)...This for a guy who claims he simply never gets injured too so who knows...But I don't feel hate anymore than I am reading any of it...I like the player, I want him to succeed.

Felix Jones as a returner has already been discussed and passed on by Wade...That may change but that's not the plan for now.

Players not getting the surgeries they need doesn't make a lot of sense...We saw it with Glenn and now we're going to see it with Stanback...If he waits until the offseason, then he goes through rehab and once again has to wade himself back into the mix of taking hits rather than starting now...Moreover, how useful is a bum shoulder returner/receiver going to be this season?

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Get-R-done!

 

[stealth]

It will when they cut him.

why do people like you latch onto the guys people are pulling for just to try to piss on people's wheaties? So freaking what? A project or a long shot are real easy to call out as busts with limited risk. It's borderline ********, and at the very least its trolling. I am not reading your response you are now on ignore. But by all means chest bump with nors.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

its never going to end is it

No kidding I remember when a talented kid named Jimmy Smith couldn't manage to get on the field. We cut our loses on him as well, Stanback has shown talent but he has had some incredibly bad luck.

 

[Hoofbite]

We need to stop with these projects and draft a WR this is starting to become a joke.

The thing is, WRs just aren't a sure thing. Like all picks and maybe more than most, WRs just aren't players you can trust to live up to their billing. Granted, WR success is dependent on the QB so a lot of top picks are going to crappy teams as it is, most likely without a solid QB. I as much as anyone would love to give up on praying that one of the late rounders pans out.

Unfortunately, there just isn't a sensible way to determine what WR is actually going to be worthwhile.

Anymore, WRs from all over the draft have been the guys making plays.

In fact, if you aren't picking the top WR on the board and if that guy isn't an absolute monster, you just don't know what you are going to get.

On top of that, not many WRs come in and produce up to their pick in the 1st year. Even if Dallas had picked a WR this year the odds of that player being able to help out enough this season just wouldn't be great.


I with you though in hoping that Dallas invests a little into finding a LEGIT player. Hoping and praying that Austin, Hurd or Stanback will ever be a true #1 is far too homerish for me to consider.

Heres to hoping that next year Dallas can scoop Roy Williams.

 

[Arch Stanton]

its never going to end is it

It's like a stuck record.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Injury prone, cut him!

 

[Mash]

That makes no sense koiser gets injured lets get an extra LB.....If we don't pick up an extra WR our WR corps will be TO Crayton and Hurd.

huh?

Koiser isnt out for the season....right? ..so u want to keep a extra lineman now? and you wanna keep a extra LB that shouldnt be making the team because spencer and burnett will miss a little time?

......and how many times will we use Jefferson and whoever else we keep? Neither is returning kicks or punts....IMHO......

All im saying is that ....I rather see Stanback go on IR and maybe we can keep one of our talented CB's that we might be forced to release.....we dont have that kind of talent at our LB spot or OL spot.....I rather keep a Brown....davis....etc...then a scrub LB that we could easily put on the practice squad.......yes?

 

[DaBoys4Life]

why do people like you latch onto the guys people are pulling for just to try to piss on people's wheaties? So freaking what? A project or a long shot are real easy to call out as busts with limited risk. It's borderline ********, and at the very least its trolling. I am not reading your response you are now on ignore. But by all means chest bump with nors.

I'm not trying to piss anyone off. I'm stating the way i feel about a player on the Dallas Cowboys on a message board. If it happens to rub you the wrong way then IDK what to say. But since you have me on ignore you can't even see this so o well. You must have been one of the RW basher otherwise you would have had half the board on ignore.

The thing is, WRs just aren't a sure thing. Like all picks and maybe more than most, WRs just aren't players you can trust to live up to their billing. Granted, WR success is dependent on the QB so a lot of top picks are going to crappy teams as it is, most likely without a solid QB. I as much as anyone would love to give up on praying that one of the late rounders pans out.

Unfortunately, there just isn't a sensible way to determine what WR is actually going to be worthwhile.

Anymore, WRs from all over the draft have been the guys making plays.

In fact, if you aren't picking the top WR on the board and if that guy isn't an absolute monster, you just don't know what you are going to get.

On top of that, not many WRs come in and produce up to their pick in the 1st year. Even if Dallas had picked a WR this year the odds of that player being able to help out enough this season just wouldn't be great.


I with you though in hoping that Dallas invests a little into finding a LEGIT player. Hoping and praying that Austin, Hurd or Stanback will ever be a true #1 is far too homerish for me to consider.

Heres to hoping that next year Dallas can scoop Roy Williams.

Yea I know the WR position is a very fickle position you have people like Micheal Williams be total bust and people like Marques Colston turn into superstars. However would it be terrible to draft a WR that actually played the position in college. All though weren't any studs like Calvin Johnson and Roy williams and Larry Fitz etc etc however they were very good WR's in this years draft maybe not worth a 1st round pick but definitely some could have been taken in the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

huh?

Koiser isnt out for the season....right? ..so u want to keep a extra lineman now? and you wanna keep a extra LB that shouldnt be making the team because spencer and burnett will miss a little time?

......and how many times will we use Jefferson and whoever else we keep? Neither is returning kicks or punts....IMHO......

All im saying is that ....I rather see Stanback go on IR and maybe we can keep one of our talented CB's that we might be forced to release.....we dont have that kind of talent at our LB spot or OL spot.....I rather keep a Brown....davis....etc...then a scrub LB that we could easily put on the practice squad.......yes?

IDC how much a 4th WR would play I'd just rather have a 4th one on the roster. You would really want to go into this season with TO Crayton and Hurd as our only WR's ?

 

[Mash]

Geezzz.....the way some think here......Irvin would of never made it past his first season after that knee injury.....

I dont know why its such a big thing having Stanback here and the big need for a WR?

So we had a few injuries....Austin will be back.....Hurd is a capabable 3rd....we have Witten and felix catching passes also.....

Put Stanback on IR....he gets healthy....and can workout all year on the WR position....its a win ...win.....situaltion.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Geezzz.....the way some think here......Irvin would of never made it past his first season after that knee injury.....

I dont know why its such a big thing having Stanback here and the big need for a WR?

So we had a few injuries....Austin will be back.....Hurd is a capabable 3rd....we have Witten and felix catching passes also.....

Put Stanback on IR....he gets healthy....and can workout all year on the WR position....its a win ...win.....situaltion.

Stanback in his 2 season haven't been healthy and hasn't lived up to his potential. He hasn't been making and impact at the WR spot and as a KR there a better options. So what the point of keeping an injury prospect that hasn't shown much of nothing.

 

[jterrell]

That’s the thing, he hasn't done anything and yet most people assume he has locked a spot on the roster based on his potential and draft investment. The hate stems from not addressing the position to see how this guy develops. Me thinks he'll make the team (on IR preferably) but I’m not expecting any contributions from him if he’s on the active roster.

again, so what?

we will have 15 or 20 guys contributing very little, what does it matter that he is one....

i am no big fan but good grief you guys like to take it personal and attack guys for nothing.

 

[Hoofbite]

I tend to agree with those who think that Stanback and the Cowboys may be better off letting him get the surgery sooner rather than later.

If Stanback is going to have to play with a harness all season, and if he may not be able to return KOs as well as before, it may be better to get a more experienced veteran in the next week or let a guy like Jefferson or Amendola take that last WR spot.

I guess the question is how effective is Stanback going to be playing with a harness? And he's already pretty raw as it is as a WR. His play as a KO returner was likely how he was going to make his "main" mark this season.

The problem I see is that even then there is no guarantee that the problem will be fixed. In fact, I think hes going to have this problem as long as he plays.

I realize they have the tip top doctors working on these guys and my friend who had the same thing didn't but like I have said a couple times, his shoulder still gives out on him every now and then. It does it less than it had before surgery but he isn't cured by any means.

If the harness is there to keep the shoulder in, I honestly believe thats about as good as its going to get.

And if you are in his position and you have just put in a tremendous amount of work, I think it would be awfully tough to just go for the surgery. It isn't an injury like TG had where it may just end his career and provide life problems down the line.

It is going to be painful every time it comes out but if the harness is designed to prevent it, it shouldn't be a problem. And every time it does come out, its going to get looser and looser and become easier and easier to come out in the future. While that sucks, my friends shoulder got to the point to where it would pop out and the next day he was set to go.

And I'm sure that what Stanback has probably isn't the exact same as what I have seen so it may not totally be the same.

Given the work put in during the off-season and the fact that he has already had this once, I would be shocked to see him not try to play through it. I really would be shocked if he opted for the knife without stepping on the field again and to be honest, I'd think of him as a pansy if he didn't at least give it a shot.

 

[Mash]

IDC how much a 4th WR would play I'd just rather have a 4th one on the roster. You would really want to go into this season with TO Crayton and Hurd as our only WR's ?

I didnt say that....I said the 5th or 6th WR will contribute nothing here...Austin and Hurd are our 3rd and 4th......so keeping Stanback on IR would be a good thing.....right?

Its sounds like you think Austin is gone for the year? same with Kosier.....they are not....they may miss a few games...

Put Stanback on the IR....keep a player ...like a CB where there is more talent...why keep a WR? OL? or a LB here that would could easily put on the practice squad?

 

[Hoofbite]

That’s the thing, he hasn't done anything and yet most people assume he has locked a spot on the roster based on his potential and draft investment. The hate stems from not addressing the position to see how this guy develops. Me thinks he'll make the team (on IR preferably) but I’m not expecting any contributions from him if he’s on the active roster.

At the same time though do you expect any of the guys who would fill his position to provide anything more than he would?

I sure don't. I suppose Amendola might have the best chance if he can get some special teams time but as a receiver I just can't expect anything more out of them than I would Stanback, harnessed shoulder an all.

 

[Woods]

The problem I see is that even then there is no guarantee that the problem will be fixed. In fact, I think hes going to have this problem as long as he plays.

I realize they have the tip top doctors working on these guys and my friend who had the same thing didn't but like I have said a couple times, his shoulder still gives out on him every now and then. It does it less than it had before surgery but he isn't cured by any means.

If the harness is there to keep the shoulder in, I honestly believe thats about as good as its going to get.

And if you are in his position and you have just put in a tremendous amount of work, I think it would be awfully tough to just go for the surgery. It isn't an injury like TG had where it may just end his career and provide life problems down the line.

It is going to be painful every time it comes out but if the harness is designed to prevent it, it shouldn't be a problem. And every time it does come out, its going to get looser and looser and become easier and easier to come out in the future. While that sucks, my friends shoulder got to the point to where it would pop out and the next day he was set to go.

And I'm sure that what Stanback has probably isn't the exact same as what I have seen so it may not totally be the same.

Given the work put in during the off-season and the fact that he has already had this once, I would be shocked to see him not try to play through it. I really would be shocked if he opted for the knife without stepping on the field again and to be honest, I'd think of him as a pansy if he didn't at least give it a shot.

I have to say, I'm not really familiar with the impact the harness will have.

But if this is something Stanback is going to have to likely deal with for some time, and this is about as good as it gets, I guess that puts a different spin on things.

One thing though, do you know of any successful WRs and/or Kickreturners in the NFL who have played with a harness for a season or for most of their careers?

I'm just curious . . . .