DMN: Safety Roy Williams wants Dallas Cowboys to act today

[Beast_from_East]

Hey Beast_from_East, SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

you're not making any decision of importance and Jerry Jones doesn't even know you exist! (nor does he care)

Dam, I thought your species (Roy Jock Riders) went extinct, circa 2007.

I didnt know any of your kind still existed!!!

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[jobberone]

So, you refuse to answer a single one of my questions to you, but you expect me to answer your question to me? And I'm the one with an ego? Please.

I'm sure I could nit-pick and find some detail about Roy that I was wrong about sometime within the past eight years. But not anything worth the effort of looking for it.

I'm going to call you on this one Adam. We got into it 2-3 years ago (or so) about Roy's play. You have consistently presented your side of the story defending Roy with stats aplenty. You definitely tried to punk people who vigorously disagreed with you. You have never ever said you were wrong nor offered apologies to the people you insulted.

It appears you always think you're right and I've never seen you retract, apologize, etc. Even when it eventually became very clear you were absolutely wrong.

I'd say in my professional opinion you definitely have a very large ego, deflect when confronted, or start in with aggressive remarks to defend yourself.

I would like to point out that I have the same problems at times but I would like to think I can apologize for being clearly wrong on something esp when it's pointed out to me by more than one person.

If you want respect on this board then perhaps you need to reflect on it instead of complaining about it. It is definitely ok to be wrong and not perfect. It only makes us human.

 

[EveryoneElse]

I'm going to call you on this one Adam. We got into it 2-3 years ago (or so) about Roy's play. You have consistently presented your side of the story defending Roy with stats aplenty. You definitely tried to punk people who vigorously disagreed with you. You have never ever said you were wrong nor offered apologies to the people you insulted.

It appears you always think you're right and I've never seen you retract, apologize, etc. Even when it eventually became very clear you were absolutely wrong.

I'd say in my professional opinion you definitely have a very large ego, deflect when confronted, or start in with aggressive remarks to defend yourself.

I would like to point out that I have the same problems at times but I would like to think I can apologize for being clearly wrong on something esp when it's pointed out to me by more than one person.

If you want respect on this board then perhaps you need to reflect on it instead of complaining about it. It is definitely ok to be wrong and not perfect. It only makes us human.

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I'm no professional, but it probably doesn't help that his ego is constantly stroked around here by some that can't add or subtract, or take the time do their own research.

 

[jobberone]

:clap2:


I'm no professional, but it probably doesn't help that his ego is constantly stroked around here by some that can't add or subtract, or take the time do their own research.

I'm not trying to be demeaning but I am being confrontational. Adam is a tremendous resource for this board and the ones before it. I value his opinions and have a lot of respect for him and always will.

I'd say being opinionated is definitely one of my faults. Wouldn't you?

 

[EveryoneElse]

I'm not trying to be demeaning but I am being confrontational. Adam is a tremendous resource for this board and the ones before it. I value his opinions and have a lot of respect for him and always will.

I'd say being opinionated is definitely one of my faults. Wouldn't you?

We are all at fault when it comes to be opinionated.

 

[Big Dakota]

Dam, I thought your species (Roy Jock Riders) went extinct, circa 2007.

I didnt know any of your kind still existed!!!

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Oh no, they're still out there, noses firmly planted in roy's butt crack.

 

[Doomsay]

I'm going to call you on this one Adam. We got into it 2-3 years ago (or so) about Roy's play. You have consistently presented your side of the story defending Roy with stats aplenty. You definitely tried to punk people who vigorously disagreed with you. You have never ever said you were wrong nor offered apologies to the people you insulted.

It's OK, the market is about to weigh in on Roy, and not in a favorable way I would guess.

 

[BAT]

Man, the roaches are out tonight.


For all the Roy hate, he is still the best Safety on the team, its not even close.


But I hope against all hope that Roy is not just released, that Jerry can find a trade partner. As of now, Roy has value, if not for any of the other teams in the League, for the Cowboys.


I don't know about the rest of you, but I am not comfortable with Carpenter (or an unproven rookie) as the nickel LB. With Burnett (& ZT) as good as gone, Roy is the only player currently on the roster who could fill that role with any kind of success. And I don't see a FA solution for under 2M (cap savings when Roy is released).

 

[Doomsay]

Man, the roaches are out tonight.


For all the Roy hate, he is still the best Safety on the team, its not even close.


But I hope against all hope that Roy is not just released, that Jerry can find a trade partner. As of now, Roy has value, if not for any of the other teams in the League, for the Cowboys.


I don't know about the rest of you, but I am not comfortable with Carpenter (or an unproven rookie) as the nickel LB. With Burnett (& ZT) as good as gone, Roy is the only player currently on the roster who could fill that role with any kind of success. And I don't see a FA solution for under 2M (cap savings when Roy is released)

Yeah, becuse Roy is so good in coverage and stuff.

 

[LatinMind]

entertaining 14 pages

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I hate these call-out threads where people beat their chest and say "See, I told you years ago that so-and-so player sucks!"

Well, half the time the player didn't really suck back then. It's just that if you say it long enough, eventually you'll be right, because all players decline at some point.

Anyway, carry on.

 

[BAT]

Yeah, becuse Roy is so good in coverage and stuff.

Roy was the nickel LB when Zimmer was DC and did very well.

 

[jobberone]

Man, the roaches are out tonight.


For all the Roy hate, he is still the best Safety on the team, its not even close.


But I hope against all hope that Roy is not just released, that Jerry can find a trade partner. As of now, Roy has value, if not for any of the other teams in the League, for the Cowboys.


I don't know about the rest of you, but I am not comfortable with Carpenter (or an unproven rookie) as the nickel LB. With Burnett (& ZT) as good as gone, Roy is the only player currently on the roster who could fill that role with any kind of success. And I don't see a FA solution for under 2M (cap savings when Roy is released).

He's not the best cover safety but overall I would say he is the best safety. That's not saying a lot for us though. He's not as terrible as some say nor as good as a few think. Someone will pick him up if he gets released.

 

[Doomsay]

Roy was the nickel LB when Zimmer was DC and did very well.

I think that the team has tried to do everything possible to avoid exposing him to coverage situations, which doesn't bode well for their confidence in his 3rd down abilities. He was an automatic first down machine in 2007, and I'm not sure what would have changed since then.

 

[AbeBeta]

I've never been reluctant to discuss his performance or anyone else's performance.

Right. Adam, seriously. It has been like pulling teeth to get you to admit that Roy's play has slipped.

If he was being paid the minimum salary, the Cowboys would not be considering cutting him. So yes, it is about money.

We'd be looking at replacing him either way. So, no it isn't about the money so much as the performance.

To add to Job's diagnosis, I will say this. It is clear that you a) possess some incredible data sources that are truly unique and b) have excellent accounting and above average statistical skills. However, you unfortunately bristle whenever challenged. I expect this is likely because you go through life being "the numbers guy" -- everyone just takes what you say at work or wherever as correct. That isn't going to fly here. Some of us have some pretty mad skills in those areas as well and are going to call BS on you at times. Accept that and enjoy it rather than getting all semantic and defensive.

 

[big dog cowboy]

For all the Roy hate, he is still the best Safety on the team, its not even close.

That really just means the rest of our S's really suck in your opinion.

I have news for you, being the best of the worst is not a compliment.

 

[PBJTime]

Ah, nothing like hearing something about Roy on the radio and ending my brief hiatus to come back here...knowing there would be a raging "discussion." Now, it seems as people are licking their chops to dog pile Adam because they believe they can claim they were "right all along." In reality, Roy hasn't been as bad as people make him out to be, period. But, now that his career may be ending here, people will believe it is proof that he has been terrible all along.

Not only that, but there are professional opinions being formed over the internet, which I find to be quite entertaining. Nothing like e-psychoanalysis to brighten my day...I kid, I kid.

 

[jobberone]

Ah, nothing like hearing something about Roy on the radio and ending my brief hiatus to come back here...knowing there would be a raging "discussion." Now, it seems as people are licking their chops to dog pile Adam because they believe they can claim they were "right all along." In reality, Roy hasn't been as bad as people make him out to be, period. But, now that his career may be ending here, people will believe it is proof that he has been terrible all along.

Not only that, but there are professional opinions being formed over the internet, which I find to be quite entertaining. Nothing like e-psychoanalysis to brighten my day...I kid, I kid.

Thanks for sharing with us all. Please, point out our errors for us since you think its so funny and unacceptable. Of course if we have no right to our opinions, professional or not, then you certainly need to think what yours mean to us all as well. Don't you think?

 

[Rampage]

Thanks for sharing with us all. Please, point out our errors for us since you think its so funny and unacceptable. Of course if we have no right to our opinions, professional or not, then you certainly need to think what yours mean to us all as well. Don't you think?

pbj just got

 

[5Countem5]

pbj just got

Oh Crap!!!

That dude hit the floor like Roy used to hit receivers...