DMN: Sporting News writer: Greg Hardy has rendered himself 'almost untouchable'

[JoeKing]

It's causing him so much trouble because he's an NFL player and his domestic violence charge came on the heels of the Ray Rice domestic violence incident that rocked not only the NFL world but the Nation after the surveillance video was made public showing Rice knocking the crap out of his girlfriend in that elevator. The pictures that were made public showing the damage Hardy did to his girlfriend disturbed many and instead of taking advantage of the opportunity the Cowboys gave him he continued adding to his bad guy image. No player in their right mind who's been through what Hardy has been through would screw up a golden opportunity with a high profile team to repair their image and that's exactly what Hardy did. Now he's doing interviews to try and make himself look like a saint claiming he would never touch a woman because that's not how he was brought up in the Bible belt. They only showed a portion of that interview he did with Scheffer but it made him look so full of **** even some of his former Carolina teammates like Steve Smith are ripping him.

There you go stating point blank that Hardy caused those injuries in the pictures when that hasn't been proven and the facts indict the bruises were more likely caused by the other man there restraining her when Hardy was calling 911. The Rice case and the Hardy case are apples and oranges. How do expect to make a compelling argument when it's so tainted with inaccuracies?

 

[KJJ]

Late to meetings and confrontational with the media last season... is that his crime now? No that was Dez that did that but you're not hard on him. Dez had a terrible season but his "second chance" isn't blown? Hardy paid his dues to society. Please stop the double standard.

Making tasteless 911 jokes on Twitter, being late for meetings, being confrontational with the media, having a physical altercation with a coach during a game and having a teammate claim he created tension in the locker room isn't a great endorsement for a player trying to repair a tainted image in hopes of receiving another opportunity with a team. Don't drag Dez into this get real! All Hardy had to do was come to Dallas, keep his mouth shut, be a good teammate and produce on the field and he would likely have a nice contract right now. Instead he's sitting around without a team being trashed in the media and by his former teammates because he's an idiot!

 

[Miller]

It damn near pisses me off that all these clowns can harp on? are the domestic
violence issue, his not being in great condition and what is perceived as a locker
room cancer despite the fact that I believe in the exact opposite, so lets keep in
mind this guy was thrust into a suspension (unwarranted) had no clue if in fact
he'd be playing or serving a 10 game suspension, Had only but a month to really
get to know the playbook and could not participate with the team in any capacity
due to the fact the NFL and it's policies suck

Well you believing the exact opposite doesn't really pan out when guys like Drew Pearson, Darren Woodson and many other Cowboy greats are saying straight out that players told them that he was hard to play with and was a bad teammate. Add the coaching fights, nickname of Greg Tardy, and lackluster play. Add those facts to him having no suitors and the NFL grapevine has spoken for the most part. I was a practicing attorney for 18 years and now am a Legal Recruiter and in my office when we have thrown a candidate out in front of many firms and nothing happens our expression is "the market has spoken" and basically there is nothing we can do for that attorney. That's what I see here. Sorry Greg but the market has spoken and you're on your own.

 

[JoeKing]

Making tasteless 911 jokes on Twitter, being late for meetings, being confrontational with the media, having a physical altercation with a coach during a game and having a teammate claim he created tension in the locker room isn't a great endorsement for a player trying to repair a tainted image in hopes of receiving another opportunity with a team. Don't drag Dez into this get real! All Hardy had to do was come to Dallas, keep his mouth shut, be a good teammate and produce on the field and he would likely have a nice contract right now. Instead he's sitting around without a team being trashed in the media and by his former teammates because he's an idiot!

LOL, A little worked up there guy. I can't wait for the reaction when Hardy does come back to the Cowboys. It will happen. (about TC time)

 

[Miller]

LOL, A little worked up there guy. I can't wait for the reaction when Hardy does come back to the Cowboys. It will happen. (about TC time)

Not a Red fan but I don't think so.(below) Guy was despised in the locker room..

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000638205/article/jason-garrett-on-greg-hardy-hes-a-free-agent

It now appears his time with the Cowboys is up. We present one interaction between a reporter and coach Jason Garrett at the NFL Scouting Combine on Wednesday.

Question: "What is the status of Greg Hardy?"

Garrett: "He's a free agent."

(Cold stare.)

(Awkward silence. Conversation over.)

 

[Sydla]

Here's all I know............. and I am sure some will disagree with it.

Whether or not he did anything that particular night, the reality is that most assumed he did something and the NFL punished him for it. Further, as a free agent, he had few suitors in 2015 and that should have been a wake up call to him. So in this case, perception is reality for the guy.

So he signs with Dallas and instead of toeing the line and trying to be a good soldier and trying to change the perception of himself in some people's minds, he acts like he always acts.......... slapping a clipboard out of a coach's hand, getting into with teammates on the sidelines, apparently missing or being late for meetings, apparently rubbing some (granted not all) of the coaches the wrong way with how he acts.

Then here comes the 2016 offseason and guess what? No one wants to touch you, apparently even the team that just had you on their roster and took the PR hit for taking you on in the first place. So what do you do? Go on ESPN and make yourself look like more of a jag bag.

At what point does the light bulb go off in his head that he needs to change how he acts?

If the Cowboys don't want anything to do with him, and at least thus far it appears they don't, then I really can't fault them. It's hard to trust a guy that despite numerous lessons can't seem to get his head screwed on straight.

 

[Mountaineerfan]

Well you believing the exact opposite doesn't really pan out when guys like Drew Pearson, Darren Woodson and many other Cowboy greats are saying straight out that players told them that he was hard to play with and was a bad teammate. Add the coaching fights, nickname of Greg Tardy, and lackluster play. Add those facts to him having no suitors and the NFL grapevine has spoken for the most part. I was a practicing attorney for 18 years and now am a Legal Recruiter and in my office when we have thrown a candidate out in front of many firms and nothing happens our expression is "the market has spoken" and basically there is nothing we can do for that attorney. That's what I see here. Sorry Greg but the market has spoken and you're on your own.

Well as a practicing attorney how many times did you help get a Domestic abuser back on the street to go to work with no issues? How many of those domestic abusers where even put in the paper once to jeopardize there employment status. I've been in the legal system for 15 years now and not once have I ever seen the uproar over a domestic case come remotely close. By the way one of the TV stations in charlotte who so heavily covered Hardy's incident had one of their own weathermen charged with Assault on female the same charge only to do a one paragraph release. While I no way agree with domestic abuse in any form or fashion I think the domestic issue he had should not effect his employment. The other stuff should but I don't think every team in the NFL cares about that.

 

[JoeKing]

Not a Red fan but I don't think so.(below) Guy was despised in the locker room..

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000638205/article/jason-garrett-on-greg-hardy-hes-a-free-agent

It now appears his time with the Cowboys is up. We present one interaction between a reporter and coach Jason Garrett at the NFL Scouting Combine on Wednesday.

Question: "What is the status of Greg Hardy?"

Garrett: "He's a free agent."

(Cold stare.)

(Awkward silence. Conversation over.)

Really? The word is his QBs say he is a good teammate... Romo and Newton.

http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/tony_romo_greg_hardy_a_good_teammate/s1_13132_19945303

 

[Kaiser]

Where did I say Hardy was the aggressor? Where did I say he initiated anything?

I didn't mean to put words in your mouth but in the post I was replying to you were saying Hardy "put hands on a woman" and committed the crime of Assault. How does someone do that without being the aggressor in the incident?

 

[Miller]

Really? The word is his QBs say he is a good teammate... Romo and Newton.

http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/tony_romo_greg_hardy_a_good_teammate/s1_13132_19945303

As I stated above, Drew Pearson and Woodson and others have said multiple teammates have straight out told them he was a cancer in the locker room and tough to stomach.

Your article was from last November when they were still trying to keep their crap together for the season. What was Tony supposed to say mid season?

 

[Kaiser]

More food for thought. Adam Schefter's opinion after speaking with Greg Hardy:

A couple of reactions, Schefter interviews thugs all the time and seems shocked that Hardy wasn't a thug. If the guy can spend a bunch of time doing interviews after that bit, is it too much to ask to do a half hour of show prep to know the facts of the case?

Also its tragically funny/stupid to see an ESPN reporter on his high horse when their employees like Mike Tirico and Chris Berman have had multiple charges brought against them involving women and no one says Boo about it.

 

[KJJ]

There you go stating point blank that Hardy caused those injuries in the pictures when that hasn't been proven and the facts indict the bruises were more likely caused by the other man there restraining her when Hardy was calling 911. The Rice case and the Hardy case are apples and oranges. How do expect to make a compelling argument when it's so tainted with inaccuracies?

Hardy caused those injuries and there was evidence to back it up which is why he paid her off to keep her from testifying against him. A jury would have convicted him in no time and he and his lawyers knew it so they struck a monetary deal with his girlfriend to shut her up. Do you honestly think a jury would buy that another man had to retrain her so a 6' 5" 280 pound Hardy could call 911??? LOL On the 911 call Hardy's in a panic claiming she's hitting him in the face. The last thing he wanted to do being a high profile NFL player was call 911 and bring attention to that situation but he wanted to make himself look like a victim because he knew she would go to the police and he would be facing an assault charge with all those bruises on her.

If he didn't assault her all he and the other guy had to do was calm her down but she was beat up and he knew he was screwed. The claims were they were trying to hold her off but you don't hold someone off by their neck! She had hand prints on her neck how do you explain that to a jury? How can the Rice and Hardy case be applies and oranges when they both involved violence against their girlfriend? Hardy would have stood no chance at trial he's an intimidating physical specimen and once the jury saw him and those pictures of the injuries on his girlfriend and heard her tearful testimony he would have been convicted.

 

[KJJ]

LOL, A little worked up there guy. I can't wait for the reaction when Hardy does come back to the Cowboys. It will happen. (about TC time)

I'll be sure to slam you with this post come training camp. LOL

 

[Miller]

Well as a practicing attorney how many times did you help get a Domestic abuser back on the street to go to work with no issues? How many of those domestic abusers where even put in the paper once to jeopardize there employment status. I've been in the legal system for 15 years now and not once have I ever seen the uproar over a domestic case come remotely close. By the way one of the TV stations in charlotte who so heavily covered Hardy's incident had one of their own weathermen charged with Assault on female the same charge only to do a one paragraph release. While I no way agree with domestic abuse in any form or fashion I think the domestic issue he had should not effect his employment. The other stuff should but I don't think every team in the NFL cares about that.

1) You have no clue what happened in that apartment. She is a mess. He has shown to be a mess and unreliable when it comes to his statements. We have no clue but we have had a judge find him initially culpable and the league and others find him in violation. Is it probably somewhere in between? Yes but there is no way he wasn't getting some punishment after what the league has been through

2) He hasn't helped himself. Twitter, his initial press conference talking about hot wives, being tardy weekly, slapping coaches clip board, this last interview...the guy makes #1 seem even more possible because he has zero self awareness and is all over the place.

3) I didn't even practice criminal defense but spent a tiny part in a DAs office where I saw everything from DWI to a little girl who had been touched inappropriately by her step-Dad and people are up in arms about crimes anywhere you go...MADD to victim rights group. The NFL is big business so they will protect the brand more than crazy individuals.

 

[Kaiser]

Hardy caused those injuries

Holder testified under oath in the initial hearing that Hardy didn't hit her. Her story (then) was that he put his hands around her throat and threatened her.
Why would her story be different in Court than it was in her Police report?

 

[JoeKing]

As I stated above, Drew Pearson and Woodson and others have said multiple teammates have straight out told them he was a cancer in the locker room and tough to stomach.

Your article was from last November when they were still trying to keep their crap together for the season. What was Tony supposed to say mid season?

So the "truth" is an orphan mid season?

 

[Kaiser]

He has shown to be a mess and unreliable when it comes to his statements.

Where?

 

[Sydla]

Where?

Majority of it is second hand accounts.

But at what point do you stop assuming that all these people saying Hardy had some issues in the locker room are just making it up?

 

[JoeKing]

Hardy caused those injuries and there was evidence to back it up which is why he paid her off to keep her from testifying against him. A jury would have convicted him in no time and he and his lawyers knew it so they struck a monetary deal with his girlfriend to shut her up. Do you honestly think a jury would buy that another man had to retrain her so a 6' 5" 280 pound Hardy could call 911??? LOL On the 911 call Hardy's in a panic claiming she's hitting him in the face. The last thing he wanted to do being a high profile NFL player was call 911 and bring attention to that situation but he wanted to make himself look like a victim because he knew she would go to the police and he would be facing an assault charge with all those bruises on her.

If he didn't assault her all he and the other guy had to do was calm her down but she was beat up and he knew he was screwed. The claims were they were trying to hold her off but you don't hold someone off by their neck! She had hand prints on her neck how do you explain that to a jury? How can the Rice and Hardy case be applies and oranges when they both involved violence against their girlfriend? Hardy would have stood no chance at trial he's an intimidating physical specimen and once the jury saw him and those pictures of the injuries on his girlfriend and heard her tearful testimony he would have been convicted.

Not only are you wrong about the poof of him causing the bruises, there is no proof he paid her off. All that has been said is their was a settlement, not financial settlement. That "settlement" could just as well been her going away in return for him not pressing charges for false prosecution and her false statements in court.

 

[JoeKing]

I'll be sure to slam you with this post come training camp. LOL

And I'll be glad to eat the crow.