DMN: Sporting News writer: Greg Hardy has rendered himself 'almost untouchable'

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I'm exhausted with all the hardy Demonization, it's ridiculous. I just read another article on Bspn talking about our draft options and says thank goodness Hardy doesn't have a job. These people need to get over themselves. Thousands of other NFL players have done way worse including probably those in the media vilifying him. Puuuulease. I don't hear anyone saying Chris Brown shouldn't be allowed to make music anymore. Hardy has been a victim of selective mob justice.

Especially when ESPN has paid out a bunch of money to settle multiple lawsuits for Chris Berman and Mike Tirico harassing women. Its beyond hypocrisy. ESPN in private is a frat party, but in public ESPN acts like they are an Amish Council Meeting.
 

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Going to be interesting to see when/where he lands on an NFL roster. Many feel the ESPN interview only hurt his chances of landing on a roster anytime soon. Could he be blackballed from the league entirely???
 

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David Moore's column today claims that Hardy was a bad influence on Gregory, who failed four drug tests in the past year. Hardy was seen at bars late on the night before games, and was constantly late for meetings.

He added that the turning point in Hardy's play was when the pictures were released by Dead spin.
 

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Especially when ESPN has paid out a bunch of money to settle multiple lawsuits for Chris Berman and Mike Tirico harassing women. Its beyond hypocrisy. ESPN in private is a frat party, but in public ESPN acts like they are an Amish Council Meeting.

He who has not sinned, may cast the first stone.
 

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David Moore's column today claims that Hardy was a bad influence on Gregory, who failed four drug tests in the past year. Hardy was seen at bars late on the night before games, and was constantly late for meetings.

He added that the turning point in Hardy's play was when the pictures were released by Dead spin.

So Hardy influenced Gregory during last year's pre-draft when he failed a drug test at the 2015 combine? While we at it let's add global warming and world hunger to Greg Hardy's destruction resume.
 

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So Hardy influenced Gregory during last year's pre-draft when he failed a drug test at the 2015 combine? While we at it let's add global warming and world hunger to Greg Hardy's destruction resume.

Yeah, Gregory's issues are his own. And the team is approaching them that way, too.
 

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So Hardy influenced Gregory during last year's pre-draft when he failed a drug test at the 2015 combine? While we at it let's add global warming and world hunger to Greg Hardy's destruction resume.

Gregory came to the Cowboys with a severe addiction problem. The Cowboys thought their program could help him.
Hardy's presence hindered any progress Gregory could make because Hardy can hardly control himself as this last
week has evidenced. I'm sad for Gregory because addiction is hard to beat.
 

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Gregory came to the Cowboys with a severe addiction problem. The Cowboys thought their program could help him.
Hardy's presence hindered any progress Gregory could make because Hardy can hardly control himself as this last
week has evidenced. I'm sad for Gregory because addiction is hard to beat.

Hardy's presence huh? He had those problems long before he met Greg Hardy, and it ridiculous to associate the two. In that Moore article it also states that Hardy had little association with Gregory. I wish people would stop grasping for anything negative to validate their feeling towards Hardy.
 
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Right and there is much more too the "perception" too. Again, we don't know what happened in that apartment...only 2 people REALLY do..maybe 3 and there is another who thinks they do or got an idea. Either way, we have heard different stories. And despite me not liking a lot of the media at times and what the league does through the Commish, everyone came to a conclusion through details we probably have not seen ourselves. I don't think that bench judge took the position lightly despite what message board pundits say. I don't think the pics were doctored so she got bruised up somehow. I would have much more respect if the guy straight out fought it tooth and nail from Day 1 and respectively tried to get the story out. What bothers me about him is he seems on the fence and then in his presser and tweets and interviews he comes across as not maintaining innocence but almost like he is laughing at the charges and throwing it in people's faces. I just don't feel sorry for those who don't help themselves and who, in fact, make it worse. They are in no way related crime wise but its like OJ "finding the real killer" and then golfing and making the fake stabbing motion in an interview..like its laughable. Despite Holder being cooky and on drugs, abuse is serious, and he took the wrong tact from Day 1. I'll put it this way, if there was never video of Ray Rice but he acted contrite like he has the last 2 years, he'd still be playing or getting shots. Hardy doesn't even have video and is not getting calls, which makes me believe that there is more to the story and guy because you know teams that need a pass rusher are doing their due diligence.

What the heck pressers and tweets are you looking at? That's beyond reaching for anything I've seen/heard from him.
 

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Hardy's presence huh? He had those problems long before he met Greg Hardy, and it ridiculous to associate the two. In that Moore article it also states that Hardy had little association with Gregory. I wish people would stop grasping for anything negative to validate their feeling towards Hardy.

You would probably be better informed it you would increase your exposure to ex players, VR writers like Broaddus, even current players on the team. They know
the truth of what went on and are not trying to generate click bait.
 

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You would probably be better informed it you would increase your exposure to ex players, VR writers like Broaddus, even current players on the team. They know
the truth of what went on and are not trying to generate click bait.

I doubt anyone but the participants know the entire truth whatever that may be.
 

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If Hardy isn't signed by the time teams start OTA's there's a real possibility he's not going to be playing in 2016 unless someone suffers an injury. With him missing 4 games last season and practically the entire 2014 season those 15 sacks he had back in 2013 are looking like a distant memory.
 

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If Hardy isn't signed by the time teams start OTA's there's a real possibility he's not going to be playing in 2016 unless someone suffers an injury. With him missing 4 games last season and practically the entire 2014 season those 15 sacks he had back in 2013 are looking like a distant memory.

It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If he doesn't get time to train and feel comfortable, he won't do as well.

That is why Dallas was the best situation for him. He did fairly well last year considering the suspension, the team's record and the never ending attacks.

I think he would have done really well here this year with a healthy Crawford and Thornton next to him. But our cowardice will prevent us from ever knowing.
 

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It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If he doesn't get time to train and feel comfortable, he won't do as well.

That is why Dallas was the best situation for him. He did fairly well last year considering the suspension, the team's record and the never ending attacks.

I think he would have done really well here this year with a healthy Crawford and Thornton next to him. But our cowardice will prevent us from ever knowing.

The Cowboys were the best situation for him and he didn't take advantage of the opportunity he was given now we're in the second week of April and he still doesn't have a team. He was part of our record last season we were 2-12 with him and he didn't do near enough to warrant bringing him back and having to endure another season of his antics. He's not worth the headache.
 

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It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If he doesn't get time to train and feel comfortable, he won't do as well.

That is why Dallas was the best situation for him. He did fairly well last year considering the suspension, the team's record and the never ending attacks.

I think he would have done really well here this year with a healthy Crawford and Thornton next to him. But our cowardice will prevent us from ever knowing.

Perhaps but we don't know what happened to sour his relationship with coach. It may be Hardy's fault.
 

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Perhaps but we don't know what happened to sour his relationship with coach. It may be Hardy's fault.

Possibly. But they are men and they are professionals. Everything I heard so far is grade school stuff.

DAL always brags about having a system to deal with troubled players but they dump a very talented one because of pettiness. You can't be a little pregnant. Either jump in with both feet or stay away from guys like Hardy, Gregory, Collins and McClain.
 

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Possibly. But they are men and they are professionals. Everything I heard so far is grade school stuff.

DAL always brags about having a system to deal with troubled players but they dump a very talented one because of pettiness. You can't be a little pregnant. Either jump in with both feet or stay away from guys like Hardy, Gregory, Collins and McClain.

You ASSUME it is pettiness. I don't assume anything although my educated guess is it was severe enough to warrant them allowing him to sign elsewhere despite a huge need for pass rush. Remember these guys are professional with a burning desire to win a championship. They most likely won't be petty about it. JMO.
 

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Perhaps but we don't know what happened to sour his relationship with coach. It may be Hardy's fault.

Of course it's Hardy's fault. We'd already taken the hit for bringing him in. He plays apposition of screaming need. We'd have him back if the situation were at all workable. It clearly wasn't. The fact that the real issues haven't been made public yet doesn't really matter.
 

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Of course it's Hardy's fault. We'd already taken the hit for bringing him in. He plays apposition of screaming need. We'd have him back if the situation were at all workable. It clearly wasn't. The fact that the real issues haven't been made public yet doesn't really matter.

If there was anything egregious, last year was the time to take care of it. He could have been suspended or fined and DAL stood to gain a lot financially if he was cut or benched. Hiding behind rumors now seems like a cop out and bowing to peer pressure of the media and talking heads.
 
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