News: DMN: Stephen Jones: Cowboys will be ‘efficient’ in free agency

[tideh20heel]

If the organization truly feels differently move some of that Romo money around and let's make a run this year. If they think the end is near then let him play with this awful cap number and let's hope the pieces fall perfectly in place.

 

[xwalker]

I'm all for it if it works and doesn't suck up too much cap, it just seems it rarely works when signing the top dawgs, I guess it all boils down to talent evaluation and development.

I think the the free agent failures just get 1000x more press and message boards posts than the free agent successes.

The Pats paid Revis 12M last season.

Reggie White was as big money FA back in the day that was very successful.

It would be interesting to go back and review the big money free agents but only the ones that signed with good teams. My guess is that the success rate is much better when FAs sign with good teams than when they signed with bad teams. The Commanders proved that you can't build an entire team of big money free agents and have success, but teams like the Pats can sign a big money guy here and there and have success.

 

[anava]

I'm all for it if it works and doesn't suck up too much cap, it just seems it rarely works when signing the top dawgs, I guess it all boils down to talent evaluation and development.

It rarely works because you rarely get guys in their prime that are FAs. Hardy and Suh types aren't available every year.

 

[Doomsday101]

Anybody who thinks Suh or Hardy wouldnt be an enormous upgrade must have only been watching the offense last year.

Of course they are upgrades they are also more than Dallas intends on spending

 

[Stash]

I'm all for it if it works and doesn't suck up too much cap, it just seems it rarely works when signing the top dawgs, I guess it all boils down to talent evaluation and development.

Personally, it goes back to one of my core beliefs. You build in the trenches, not away from the football. And the more I see of this team going in that direction, the better the results get.

Look at how they did when they were heavily investing resources in positions furthest away from the football, like wide receiver and cornerback. They were repeatedly 8-8.

Now that they have significantly invested in the offensive line? 12-4

An offense can avoid a cornerback, or attack him if there's no pass rush to assist him, even the best of them. But a quality pass rusher? You're going to have to deal with him!

I feel that building in the trenches, on both sides of the ball, builds the foundation for a team's success.

 

[NeonNinja]

That's fine. Sign Hardy then be as efficient as you please.

 

[cej757]

Don't start back tracking now Stephen Jones, You were talking all gung-ho a few weeks ago about how you were going to upgrade the defense. I don't see how you're doing that by adding two or three Jeremy Mincey's.

I guess that means we're out of the Greg Hardy, Jerry Hughes discussion.

 

[jterrell]

I think the the free agent failures just get 1000x more press and message boards posts than the free agent successes.

The Pats paid Revis 12M last season.

Reggie White was as big money FA back in the day that was very successful.

It would be interesting to go back and review the big money free agents but only the ones that signed with good teams. My guess is that the success rate is much better when FAs sign with good teams than when they signed with bad teams. The Commanders proved that you can't build an entire team of big money free agents and have success, but teams like the Pats can sign a big money guy here and there and have success.

no.
has zero to do with that.
big money free agents just rarely work.

revis at 12m wasn't some enormous signing. it was a 1 year deal for the best CB in football.
reggie white was 100 years ago and may be the most physically gifted DL of all-time.
he's the rare guy you couldn't overpay.

but your agenda here really doesn't matter because dallas isn't in the sign big names business anymore.

this is like the dez bryant "tape".

 

[Stash]

That's fine. Sign Hardy then be as efficient as you please.

Wow!

You totally summed up how I feel about it.

With such a fine economy with words.

Well done sir!

 

[Rockport]

i would be very disappointed if we do not go all in on a big time defensive player.

I wouldn't. That would be dumb. Cowboys have learned their lesson.

 

[Stash]

Don't start back tracking now Stephen Jones, You were talking all gung-ho a few weeks ago about how you were going to upgrade the defense. I don't see how you're doing that by adding two or three Jeremy Mincey's.

I guess that means we're out of the Greg Hardy, Jerry Hughes discussion.

To me, it looks like father and son are saying two completely different things. Should make for some interesting behind the scenes discussions and should give a real indication of who is truly in charge.

 

[xwalker]

no.
has zero to do with that.
big money free agents just rarely work.

revis at 12m wasn't some enormous signing. it was a 1 year deal for the best CB in football.
reggie white was 100 years ago and may be the most physically gifted DL of all-time.
he's the rare guy you couldn't overpay.

but your agenda here really doesn't matter because dallas isn't in the sign big names business anymore.

this is like the dez bryant "tape".

Suh is a Reggie White type of talent and those don't hit free agency very often. Guys like Hardy also rarely hit free agency.

 

[dallasdave]

To me, it looks like father and son are saying two completely different things. Should make for some interesting behind the scenes discussions and should give a real indication of who is truly in charge.

It's time for the family feud.

 

[cowboyvic]

Don't start back tracking now Stephen Jones, You were talking all gung-ho a few weeks ago about how you were going to upgrade the defense. I don't see how you're doing that by adding two or three Jeremy Mincey's.

I guess that means we're out of the Greg Hardy, Jerry Hughes discussion.

He does that every year. and the last going on 4 years, it has gotten worse. cowboys fans have been told yet again(a week before FA start) that Jerry won't go after any of the top guys.

 

[Doomsday101]

He does that every year. and the last going on 4 years, it has gotten worse. cowboys fans have been told yet again(a week before FA start) that Jerry won't go after any of the top guys.

what so the masses and complain about Dallas over spending. Jones had said shortly after the season about FA of being active but also looking for the right kinds of deals that they have been doing. This is why I mentioned this every time a high priced FA name pops up around here. Dallas is not back tracking many here do no pay attention.

 

[anava]

He does that every year. and the last going on 4 years, it has gotten worse. cowboys fans have been told yet again(a week before FA start) that Jerry won't go after any of the top guys.

In the past I was fine with not going nuts in FA because we weren't very close. But last year we were a pass rusher away from beating GB and going into Seattle that was beat up and we had already won once away from a Superbowl. Got a taste of success again and want more.

 

[jterrell]

Suh is a Reggie White type of talent and those don't hit free agency very often. Guys like Hardy also rarely hit free agency.

suh is a rare talent but he is also one of the biggest knuckleheads in football.
hardy is coming off a year outside of football and one mistake away from selling shoes for a living.

reggie white was a minister and family man that brought it every play.

all that said he probably wasn't a 'great' value for GB. his production dipped mightily from his insane 15 sack per year average down to about 11.

greg hardy has 1 season of over 11 sacks in his NFL career. by year 5 reggie white had 70!!! with a high of 21 and a low of 11.
hardy has 34 sacks in his 5 NFL seasons... obviously one of those was a wash with suspension.

so hardy is a good talent but, he is not a truly elite prospect and has major baggage.
if you could get him for reasonable dollars, great.
but you can't.
teams HAVE to spend 250 million dollars and they are going to spend it where they can on young guys with upside.

what was the last FA dallas gave 50M plus to that worked out well?

 

[Doomsday101]

In the past I was fine with not going nuts in FA because we weren't very close. But last year we were a pass rusher away from beating GB and going into Seattle that was beat up and we had already won once away from a Superbowl. Got a taste of success again and want more.

Yet the moves Dallas has made is what got them close and now they are to change what is actually working as opposed to going back to the old ways of over paying? There are some decent option out there like a Trent Cole and others who will not cost Dallas big time. This organization has been doing a great job that is why we are where we are and that should not change.

 

[MRV52]

Free agency doesn't win you Super Bowls ask the Dream team how it worked out for them.

 

[Stash]

Yet the moves Dallas has made is what got them close and now they are to change what is actually working as opposed to going back to the old ways of over paying? There are some decent option out there like a Trent Cole and others who will not cost Dallas big time. This organization has been doing a great job that is why we are where we are and that should not change.

And you would get 'Trent Cole production':

3 sacks in 2012
8 sacks in 2013
6.5 sacks in 2014

What a 'difference-maker'...