Do not go out on Sunday and make any attempts to beat the Skins

DallasEast

Cowboys 24/7/365
Staff member
Messages
62,301
Reaction score
63,990
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
It is not about being able to tell the future or being able to predict if a certain player will be any good or not, it is about giving the team as much ammunition as possible to be able to field a much better team in the future.

Trading from pick #4 to pick #8 could net you a 2nd round draft pick........to do whatever with, again not predicting jack........just an extra 2nd rounder.

Would you give up a 2nd round pick to beat a Skins team full of 2nd and 3rd teamers? And exactly how does this improve the franchise?
1. No one knows which player or how productive any player will be that is chosen by the front office. The ammunition may 9mm hollow points. Or BBs.

2. No one knows how the front office will utilize a higher pick. They may trade the pick or picks with the shrewdness of a Bill Belichick. Or it's entirely possible they might juggle picks around the board and end up with a Kavika Pittman.

Would I surrender a second round pick? How would I know? I am not the decision maker in the Cowboys front office. I will not be making any player selections in any round. And that same fact applies for everyone else outside that entity. Additionally, how would I or anyone else for that matter, including the members of the front office themselves, know for certain how any selection, selected in any round, will improve the franchise? The National Football League has a long, rich history of examples that include successes, failures, and those who fall in between. It can provide proper perspective. Or it should.

The draft shall unfold as it will. Observers will react to this year's draft in the same way as they always have in the past:

Joy. Anger. Indifference. And a mixture of all three. The outcome of tomorrow's game will not change those reactions one iota.
 

Avery

The Dog that Saved Charleston
Messages
19,465
Reaction score
20,518
Total hypothetical here: which you would rather take and why if a team wanted to ante up the chips for their prospect (whomever it might be)?

#4 pick - 1,800 points on draft value chart
#13, #45, #77 - 1,805 points on draft value chart

Dallas would have the #13, #36, #45, #68, #77 and #100 picks by my likely inaccurate count.
 

big dog cowboy

THE BIG DOG
Staff member
Messages
101,844
Reaction score
112,760
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
McFadden, while a serviceable RB, doesn't scare anyone.
I hear what you are saying, but......Currently 5th in the league in rushing yards (4.4 avg.) despite not hardly touching the ball the first 5 games.
 

Bleu Star

Bye Felicia!
Messages
33,925
Reaction score
19,920
I hear what you are saying, but......Currently 5th in the league in rushing yards (4.4 avg.) despite not hardly touching the ball the first 5 games.

Yeah he's decent and surprisingly has held up all season. But we need a back with that added dimension of being able to remain on the field on those 3rd & shorts. A back that we can rely on to convert. Having that all in one back (like we had last year) provides us with incredible ability to disguise our intentions.

Using another back for short yardage doesn't work for us. We continue to fail miserably in that area. I know it works well around the league elsewhere but we just don't seem capable of placing another back in on 3rd & 1 and surprising anyone with what we do out of that set. We've been stuffed so many times on 3rd & short this year when 90% of us as fans knew what they were going to do with the ball.

Last year we had the luxury of keeping Demarco in on those short yardage plays and the element of surprise was there. We need that back if we are to continue with the current coaching staff "as is".

In other words, RBBC in big D is a huge fail. Our coaching staff does not know how to use it effectively.
 
Last edited:

Doomsay

Well-Known Member
Messages
10,542
Reaction score
6,160
LOL that anybody is arguing against not doing everything possible to ensure that we get a higher draft pick. The Commanders are listing 9 or so players as questionable or worse, and plan to rest others. This is an absolutely meaningless game that we shouldn't allow Washington to gift us. Anyone that continues to assert that one's draft position in every round is irrelevant doesn't comprehend the fundamentals of the sport.
 

Bleu Star

Bye Felicia!
Messages
33,925
Reaction score
19,920
LOL that anybody is arguing against not doing everything possible to ensure that we get a higher draft pick. The Commanders are listing 9 or so players as questionable or worse, and plan to rest others. This is an absolutely meaningless game that we shouldn't allow Washington to gift us. Anyone that continues to assert that one's draft position in every round is irrelevant doesn't comprehend the fundamentals of the sport.

Chuuuch
 

Bleu Star

Bye Felicia!
Messages
33,925
Reaction score
19,920
So we now know the skins are officially considering this a meaningles game. 8 or starters not playing... & dilemmas like this.. LOL

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/12/rob...k-if-cousins-mccoy-gets-hurt-playoffs-week-17

If RG3 see the field anytime this year & gets hurt he gets all 16 mil of his 2016 contract. Soooo..

Do they rest Cousins, start Colt, & move RG3 up to #2?

Do they rest Cousins, start Colt, & use Cousins as his backup placing RG3 at #3?

Or do they start Cousins and give him a half in a meningless game running the risk of injuring the guy that got them to the playoffs before the playoffs start?

HMMMMMMM
 

Bleu Star

Bye Felicia!
Messages
33,925
Reaction score
19,920
I hope many of you are now seeing why it makes zero sense to win this game.

Draft options draft options draft options!

Highest pick possible!

:yourock:
 

FLCowboyFan

Hoping to be half the man Tom Landry was.
Messages
4,967
Reaction score
3,555
I hope many of you are now seeing why it makes zero sense to win this game.

Draft options draft options draft options!

Highest pick possible!

:yourock:

It might be hard not to win this game depending on what the Commanders do. We may have to hand the ball off to one of their DL's to keep from winning it
 

Idgit

Fattening up
Staff member
Messages
58,971
Reaction score
60,826
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
LOL that anybody is arguing against not doing everything possible to ensure that we get a higher draft pick. The Commanders are listing 9 or so players as questionable or worse, and plan to rest others. This is an absolutely meaningless game that we shouldn't allow Washington to gift us. Anyone that continues to assert that one's draft position in every round is irrelevant doesn't comprehend the fundamentals of the sport.

Draft position obviously isn't irrelevant. Neither is it a reason to throw football games.
We're sitting a lot of players, too, We better try to win with the ones we're playing, though. I'll be perfectly happy with a meaningless sweep of the Commanders and a top-8 pick. Won't lose a wink of sleep over it not being a top-5 pick.
 

cml750

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,753
Reaction score
3,964
I don't understand people wanting to lose. I have never wished for that but I do expect it though given certain things that can't be mentioned in this particular Zone.
 

jnday

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,292
Reaction score
11,422
I hear what you are saying, but......Currently 5th in the league in rushing yards (4.4 avg.) despite not hardly touching the ball the first 5 games.

I think this will be the best year McFadden ever has as a Cowboy and it would be an epic failure to depend on him for the future at the RB position.
 

Doomsay

Well-Known Member
Messages
10,542
Reaction score
6,160
Draft position obviously isn't irrelevant. Neither is it a reason to throw football games.
We're sitting a lot of players, too, We better try to win with the ones we're playing, though. I'll be perfectly happy with a meaningless sweep of the Commanders and a top-8 pick. Won't lose a wink of sleep over it not being a top-5 pick.

You need to be a better fan and focus on our team's future, not on a meaningless game at the end of our lost pathetic season. A season where the .500 carrier coach you endorse could only win one game without his inherited franchise QB and defacto OC. There is only downside to winning this game ..."Fight" is trite under this coach.
 
Last edited:

Idgit

Fattening up
Staff member
Messages
58,971
Reaction score
60,826
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
You need to be a better fan and focus on our team's future, not on a meaningless game at the end of our lost pathetic season. A season where the .500 carrier coach you endorse could only win one game without his inherited franchise QB and defacto OC. There is only downside to winning this game ..."Fight" is trite under this coach.

You and I have very different ideas of fan hood, Dooms. And probably of what being a good fan really means.
 

MWH1967

The Cook
Messages
7,114
Reaction score
9,465
10:21 PM January 2nd 2016...I love our Dallas Cowboys....Don't win this one. I have never asked before. I've been a fan for 48 years.
 

Coy

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,412
Reaction score
2,539
Dallas is going to win and Garrett will get to say they finished strong and played really hard, smh.
 
Top