CFZ Do we actually have fans who believe Dak is Elite?

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There are only 3 guys who are elite in this league one of who is 45 years old, and one who might be.

Dak is good .......sometimes real good.
 

BobSacamano

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Elite is way too widely thrown around here. No one ever thought Dak was elite. They thought he was really good. Elite is the pinnacle. Right now Mahomes is elite. Maybe Burrow. Maybe Allen. That’s it. Anyone else that thinks different is a dummy.

Dak is a good QB. Top half of the league. He fluctuates a bit but on the whole his is a good QB. Period.
I agree, but at the end of the day, ‘who cares?’. Dak is currently not the one holding the Cowboys back from achieving anything and just shredded one of the best Ds in the NFL. His trajectory is pointing up. Let’s ride it out and remember that ultimately a couple of elite QBs may not win a Super Bowl or even play in a championship game this year (if Dallas and it’s not elite QB have anything to say about it).
 

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I agree, but at the end of the day, ‘who cares?’. Dak is currently not the one holding the Cowboys back from achieving anything and just shredded one of the best Ds in the NFL. His trajectory is pointing up. Let’s ride it out and remember that ultimately a couple of elite QBs may not win a Super Bowl or even play in a championship game this year (if Dallas and it’s not elite QB have anything to say about it).
The owner and his family are holding the team back. Have been for 3 decades.
 

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To a certain extent. I think the roster is pretty good.

The blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while. The reality is they had a great draft the last 2 years. I count 10 guys that are contributing. Parsons changed the whole defense. McCarthy is a professional coach. That why this thing is finally working.
 

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I’ve been going to bat for him in recent years against the Dak Haks but in another thread been arguing with a fan I actually agree on many issues but he believes Prescott has become Elite and in Top 5 of QB’s in the league.

He even asked me what 5 QB’s are better. Which was an easy response. Prescott is arguably by most sound analysts and critics closer to a Top 10 QB, not Top 5. Which being in the next best group isn’t a bad place to be .

The argument stemmed from a basis narrative of his that Elite QB’s were a necessity to being a consistent contender in Cap era. Which is another argument within itself . There are exceptions to that rule as well. But the argument initiated with criticism of franchises with less playoff success this era. We actually agree to a point on that basis.

And then he said Dak has become Elite. Even saying that he had bashed him earlier in his career. Are there other fans who also believe he has become Elite? I thought besides the extremes on both sides of the Haks and Homers that most felt he was closer to Top 10 to above average . Enough to build around and hopefully have more success.

Like most franchises except for a handful who have an Elite QB, you have to build around average to above average QB’s. No shame in that . Anyway, curious where the vibe is at this time . Not interested in hearing from the extremes. Thanks
This year he’s right behind Mahomes, Allen, Brady and Burrow so #5.
 

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Not elite, but that list is incredibly small. Mahomes, Burrow and Allen.

Then there is tier 2 which Dak falls in. Top 10 easy for me.
 

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Stats matter for fantasy owners, agents, and some players trying to get big pay days. Tell me who trains in the off season etc to have the biggest STATS, you do all that hard work to WIN!!!!
Sure you do but good stats typically contribute to winning but it takes a complete team to win big

and some breaks. Each year there’s 31 losers
 

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Why are posts like this and the opposite even allowed?
Who the hell actually wants to keep arguing? At what point do people realize that every argument supporting Dak and every derogatory comment bashing him has already been repeated 50 times.

And don’t tell me to just ignore the post. Everything on this site goes to Dak, like there isn’t an entire team of players who help or hurt us every week. Why don’t we just sticky a damn thread titled “Dak” and make people argue there?
 

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Dak is NOT elite. He can play elite, but he is NOT top 5. Just outside the top 5. I have only heard 1 or 2 homers claim he is elite. Its as ridiculous and saying he is average.
I like that . Dak isn’t Elite but he can play Elite.

No doubt he has stretches where he does. As well as some he doesn’t. IMO in order to move up to next level needs more of those Elite stretches on the biggest stages.

And there’s been at least 2 Homers in this thread I’ve seen saying he’s Elite or top 5. I’m sure there’s more out there.
 

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IMHO, we have significantly fewer people that think Dak is elite than we do those that say he sucks. There are very vocal fans that blame every loss on Dak Prescott, and many normal fans are tired of hearing it. There is a long list of equal or lesser QB’s that have won, or at least played in, Super Bowls.
 

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How can one say he is good enough to win with when he has, in fact, never won anything at any level?

We're 7 years in and he's proven that he's just good enough to get the team to the Divisional Round. Nothing more.

We HOPE he is good enough to win with, but until we actually win something with him then it's all make believe.

Are Josh Allen, Herbert, Lamar and Burrow good enough to WIN a SB with?
 

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Agreed Dak is not elite. But its teams that win the big one, not QB's. Until you understand this simple point, your QB opinions will always be off.

My point was the back and forth debates in reference to the song and the constant lamenting and arguments about him. My actual opinion was that he overall is a very good quarterback. Yes, teams win or lose big games but quatorbacks are generally the biggest difference makers, especially in the playoffs.

Right, wrong or otherwise he will be judged on how well he performs in big games and if the Cowboys win…now that is fact.

I am much closer to a Dak “fanboy” than I am a hater. My daughter even bought me his jersey for Christmas….shhh, please don’t tell anyone:)
 
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