Do you care if we resign Dak?

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I get a sense that man Cowboys fans are either ambivalent or against resigning Dak to an extension.
I think many, myself included, would like to keep Dak but the price point, $55-$60 million a year just seems crazy to reward someone who hasn't produced much tangible success with that type of deal.
We are a better team with him but nothing has shown us that he is worth that investment.
At this point, we can just let it ride out and deal with the future after the season.
Nope, don't care at all. But I fully expect that Jerry will cave and break the bank for him. I would be far more surprised if Dak walks.
 

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Burrow got to a Super Bowl and when he had a chance to win it in the end, he couldn’t do it. He would’ve gotten persecuted by this fan base if he was our QB. He hasn’t gotten back to a Super Bowl since or even played a full season. Allen got the Bills to the conference title game and came up empty. He hasn’t gotten back there since. He has as many playoff losses as Dak and he turns the ball over a lot. This fan base would be complaining about him and you know it. Troy Aikman got bashed by this fan base when we stopped winning Super Bowls.
But Burrow at least made it to a super bowl. What has Dak done in his 8 seasons in the league? Oh yeah I forgot the meaningless 1 vote he got for MVP last season. Hurray for Dak.
 

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Let me know when we start to be contenders! That sounds great. Its been almost 30 years.
We’ve been contenders, we just can’t get over the hump.
 

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yes.
because if we do...we better build around him.
if we don't...we better find his replacement.
so yes...i care if we re-sign dak.
 

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But Burrow at least made it to a super bowl. What has Dak done in his 8 seasons in the league? Oh yeah I forgot the meaningless 1 vote he got for MVP last season. Hurray for Dak.
The point is he didn’t win the SB when he had the chance in the closing minutes. That wouldn’t be acceptable to this fan base. Fans would be frustrated that he’s the highest paid QB in the league and hasn’t gotten the team back to the Super Bowl, They would also be frustrated with his injuries that have cost him numerous games. This fan base wouldn’t be happy with any QB that hasn’t won a Super Bowl.
 

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Isn't going to a super bowl the ultimate payback on investment?
Hitting a trifecta at the horse track can be the ultimate payout, but some people just put 20 bucks on the favorite to show. You don't need the ultimate payback on investment, just a positive result. You're successful as long as you have a positive result. Winning it all is more about someone's competitive nature than anything else.
 

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The point is he didn’t win the SB when he had the chance in the closing minutes. That wouldn’t be acceptable to this fan base. Fans would be frustrated that he’s the highest paid QB in the league and hasn’t gotten the team back to the Super Bowl, They would also be frustrated with his injuries that have cost him numerous games. This fan base wouldn’t be happy with any QB.
I think you're wrong. This franchise hasn't even sniffed the NFCCG in almost 30 years. To get there and win a spot in the super bowl - the fans would be absolutely ecstatic. The problem is Jerry, and even Dak to a point, isn't really interested in anything more than making the playoffs. They consider that a winning scenario and successful season. Dak seems far more interested in the next bag of cash.
 

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But Burrow at least made it to a super bowl. What has Dak done in his 8 seasons in the league? Oh yeah I forgot the meaningless 1 vote he got for MVP last season. Hurray for Dak.
They went into KC for the AFC championship game and beat the Chiefs after being down 21-3.

That would be akin to the Cowboys going to San Francisco for the NFC championship and beating the 49ers after being down 21-3.

We fought back hard in 1994 down 21-0, but to even entertain the thought we could pull that off with his current team is laughable.
 

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I think you're wrong. This team hasn't even sniffed the NFCCG in almost 30 years. To get there and win a spot in the super bowl - the fans would be absolutely ecstatic. The problem is Jerry, and even Dak to a point, isn't really interested in anything more than making the playoffs. They consider that a winning scenario and successful season. Dak seems far more interested in the next bag of cash.
The Cowboys have only had three QBs in franchise history get them to the Super Bowl, and only two of them won. Getting close, but no cigar isn’t going cut it for very long with this fanbase. The team got very close with Craig Morton, but they moved on because he couldn’t win the big one. This fan base isn’t going to tolerate anything but a championship. They might be okay with reaching the Super Bowl once and losing, but if you don’t get back to the Super Bowl the next year and win it, they’re bailing on the QB. You’re way off base if you honestly think Jerry and Dak are only interested in making the playoffs. That’s an absolutely ridiculous comment. :facepalm:
 

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They went into KC for the AFC championship game and beat the Chiefs after being down 21-3.

That would be akin to the Cowboys going to San Francisco for the NFC championship and beating the 49ers after being down 21-3.
I wouldn’t go quite that far because KC back then didn’t have the great defense San Francisco has. If you get down 21-3 to San Francisco in San Francisco in a championship game you’re done against their defense. Bosa and company would be feasting on the QB.
 

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The Cowboys have only had three QBs in franchise history get them to the Super Bowl, and only two of them won. Getting close, but no cigar isn’t going cut it for very long with this fanbase. The team got very close with Craig Morton, but they moved on because he couldn’t win the big one. This fan base isn’t going to tolerate anything but a championship. They might be okay with reaching the Super Bowl once and losing, but if you don’t get back to the Super Bowl the next year and win it, they’re bailing on the QB. You’re way off base if you honestly think Jerry and Dak are only interested in making the playoffs. That’s an absolutely ridiculous comment. :facepalm:
What you are not taking into consideration is the amount of time from the inaugural season to their first super bowl appearance - only 10 years. I don't even know what to say to describe the last 30 years of misery. I got to see 8 super bowls in the first 30 years of my life. I will be 60 next year and they haven't done squat since.

I know I can't speak for the rest of the fan base, but I would personally be happy, win or lose, for this awful streak to come to an end. You have to get there to get a chance at a win, and this franchise can't even get past the divisional round.
 

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I think you're wrong. This franchise hasn't even sniffed the NFCCG in almost 30 years. To get there and win a spot in the super bowl - the fans would be absolutely ecstatic.
The fan base would be ecstatic to get there, but if we lose the fans would meltdown and point the finger directly at Dak. They’ll claim we got there in spite of him. There’s nothing more disappointing than losing a Super Bowl and a lot of fans would claim that if we had a different QB, we would’ve won it.
 

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I get a sense that man Cowboys fans are either ambivalent or against resigning Dak to an extension.
I think many, myself included, would like to keep Dak but the price point, $55-$60 million a year just seems crazy to reward someone who hasn't produced much tangible success with that type of deal.
We are a better team with him but nothing has shown us that he is worth that investment.
At this point, we can just let it ride out and deal with the future after the season.
The other side of the coin is would we even use his cap savings on the FA market? It's one thing to let him go due to budgeting the cap, but then my lack of faith they'd be aggressive in FA kicks in and I'm not sure we'd benefit letting him walk.
 

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What you are not taking into consideration is the amount of time from the inaugural season to their first super bowl appearance - only 10 years. I don't even know what to say to describe the last 30 years of misery. I got to see 8 super bowls in the first 30 years of my life. I will be 60 next year and they haven't done squat since.

I know I can't speak for the rest of the fan base, but I would personally be happy, win or lose, for this awful streak to come to an end. You have to get there to get a chance at a win, and this franchise can't even get past the divisional round.
There was no free agency and salary cap back then so you could keep your team together. Plus we had some great drafts. Most players back then played for the love of the game because they didn’t get paid very much especially the Cowboys. Tex Schramm was the tightest GM in the league. Bob Lilly was only making $27,000 during their Super Bowl win in 71. It was all about winning a championship back in those days. We didn’t have players marketing their brand or being coddled by their owner. They respected their head coach. Today all we have are self-centered players, and every head coach is Jerry’s puppet. You never saw Tom Landry being undermined by his owner and GM. It’s a lot different today. Our QB isn’t why we’re not getting over the hump.
 
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The problem was with him. He kept choking when big games were on the line which is why Landry wanted to make a trade with the Colts to get John Elway. White was playing for some terrific teams but he would fold in critical situations. He was horrible against Philly in the NFC title game in 1980. His passer rating was under 40.0. He’s best remembered for the fumble against San Francisco the following year in the NFC title game when the game was on the line. He sucked against Washington in the NFC title game the next year until he got knocked out of the game. I was ready to move on from him.
Danny White was terrible in those championship games except for the 49ers game and even then he choked that away. I don’t want that. I want a QB that wins Super Bowls. That’s it
 

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Danny White was terrible in those championship games except for the 49ers game and even then he choked that away. I don’t want that. I want a QB that wins Super Bowls. That’s it
He outplayed Joe Montana until the game was on the line. Montana was masterful in the closing minutes. That’s what made him great. You need a great team to win a Super Bowl. If you have a great team and you’re not able to get over the hump, then you have to start looking at the QB.
 

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He outplayed Joe Montana until the game was on the line. Montana was masterful in the closing minutes. That’s what made him great. You need a great team to win a Super Bowl. If you have a great team and you’re not able to get over the hump, then you have to start looking at the QB.
Shouldnt you always be looking at your qb?
 
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