Do you feel the Mingo trade will be worth it in the long run

[Aven8]

He could barely get on the field with the bums we have. What does that say about him?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Every time someone gets traded, there’s a very good reason for it.

When Hankins was traded from the Raiders to you, he was a dirt cheap FA pickup for them, and they were struggling mightily. He had no value in their future rebuild, so they got whatever they could.

When Amari was traded for a 1 to you, it was because the Raiders knew they couldn’t afford his next contract. So they traded him to a team who could before his rookie contract ended as to get maximum value.

When the Carolina Panthers traded Mingo to you, they were desperate for WR help. Anything to get Bryce Young more talent. They had JUST drafted him top of the second round (nearly a first round pick!) barely a year prior. And nobody overvalues players like the team that (just) drafted them. Yet they were happy to get a 4 for him. What does that tell you about Jonathan Mingo?

We can then ponder why the 9ers were so happy to give up Lance for a 4 as well.

Jerry reminds me a lot of my mother’s compulsions when she goes grocery shopping: just because it’s on sale doesn’t mean it’s a good value.

 

[thunderpimp91]

That's the absolute opposite of what you use a big guy for the slot is for smaller shifty motion guys.. The big guys are clear Xs you know the guys on the outside. I haven't took a close look but he's built like A.J. Brown A.J. Brown don't play in the slot TO didn't really play in the slot those dudes are on the outside you want them to do jump balls that type of thing be able to beat a guy over the top tight coverage you know big body guy with some speed that's what we actually need that is what they got but that doesn't mean he's talented enough to do anything with it but in the draft I'd be looking for a A.J. Brown type maybe even with a little more speed.....

Big guys line up in the slot all the time. AJ Brown takes around 20% of his snaps from the slot. I'm not sure they tracked that data when TO played, but he played all over the field as well. Anquan Boldin was 6'1" 220lbs and primarily played the slot. Larry Fitzgerald was 6'3" 220lbs and took nearly 90% of his snaps inside. This year with Carolina Mingo actually got about half his snaps from the slot. Dallas gave him about 25% of his snaps from the slot.

Being wrong is one thing, but the confidence Blueblood has in being wrong is incredible.

 

[goshann]

LOL. Did anyone see the Schatz (the DVOA guy) article yesterday?

Mingo this year had the third worst DYAR in the league, and the year before had the second worst DYAR season of all time.

Absolute clown show of a trade.

https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/jackson-...-all-time-dyar-seasons-in-2024#wide-receivers

He won't be in the NFL after next year IMO.

 

[Polkton31]

That's the absolute opposite of what you use a big guy for the slot is for smaller shifty motion guys.. The big guys are clear Xs you know the guys on the outside. I haven't took a close look but he's built like A.J. Brown A.J. Brown don't play in the slot TO didn't really play in the slot those dudes are on the outside you want them to do jump balls that type of thing be able to beat a guy over the top tight coverage you know big body guy with some speed that's what we actually need that is what they got but that doesn't mean he's talented enough to do anything with it but in the draft I'd be looking for a A.J. Brown type maybe even with a little more speed.....

I understand the typical alignments of an NFL offense, but any receiver can play in the slot. As I'm sure you've noticed, NFL teams are starting to find success by aligning their premier receiver in the slot. Some of the reasons for this success are 1. Aligning in the slot gives them a less restricted release 2. They have a two-way go (inside or outside) upon releasing - more space to operate 3. The ball travels less distance to the slot than the outside receiver 4. Mismatch reasons - slot cornerbacks tend to be smaller 5. To take advantage of defensive strategy - quality outside CB, safety rotation, etc. My primary reason for saying Mingo might have success in the slot is because of the physical mismatch he might present to a slot corner. Obviously, you see it differently which is cool.

 

[TheCoolFan]

It's unfortunate that they traded 4th round picks twice. The team actually drafts pretty well in that round in terms of getting a player that can contribute. Some have become starters and others have been solid role players.

2022 - Jake Ferguson
2020 - Tyler Biadasz
2019 - Tony Pollard
2018 - Dorance Armstrong, Dalton Schultz
2016 - Dak Prescott
2015 - Damien Wilson
2014 - Anthony Hitchens

 

[CWR]

He has shown nothing in his pro career to indicate he's worth the trade.

 

[Mannix]

 

[thunderpimp91]

I understand the typical alignments of an NFL offense, but any receiver can play in the slot. As I'm sure you've noticed, NFL teams are starting to find success by aligning their premier receiver in the slot. Some of the reasons for this success are 1. Aligning in the slot gives them a less restricted release 2. They have a two-way go (inside or outside) upon releasing - more space to operate 3. The ball travels less distance to the slot than the outside receiver 4. Mismatch reasons - slot cornerbacks tend to be smaller 5. To take advantage of defensive strategy - quality outside CB, safety rotation, etc. My primary reason for saying Mingo might have success in the slot is because of the physical mismatch he might present to a slot corner. Obviously, you see it differently which is cool.

Oh boy I cant wait to see the crazy rant you get in response....

 

[Polkton31]

Oh boy I cant wait to see the crazy rant you get in response....

 

[fivetwos]

Let’s see how everyone feels on Saturday morning of draft weekend when there’s a few players still on the board that people wanted in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Meh, I’m sure they will make up for it in free agency. They know what they are doing.

 

[Chuck 54]

The 4th rounder used on Lance cost us a starting RB last year as they were all gone by the 5th round.
I have no doubt we will have to take a RB in the first 3 rounds this year because of the Mingo trade.

Our receivers were hot garbage this season. Not one could be depended on when teams made a real effort to take away Lamb. We were desperate to add firepower, but this was truly a stupid move that did not do that.

 

[Bagman]

This trade was Jerry feeling a little heat to do something, anything. He didn't even know who Mingo was. Just a body

 

[silver]

Mingo is not better that Jalen Brooks who we got in the 7th round in the same draft. Dude looks like Tarzan but plays like Jane.

 

[Chasing6]

4th was a high price for what he was. However he is still under contract for two years

I think 80-100 catches over two years is pretty good production for a 4th round pick. Will Mingo get that?

Trance, Duece and Mingo I see a bright future ahead.

 

[ak47kaehu]

He has all the tools and traits......Just needs more reps and opportunities!

 

[JonesBoys]

LOL. Did anyone see the Schatz (the DVOA guy) article yesterday?

Mingo this year had the third worst DYAR in the league, and the year before had the second worst DYAR season of all time.

Absolute clown show of a trade.

https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/jackson-...-all-time-dyar-seasons-in-2024#wide-receivers

You mean that didn't scream trade a 4th for him? Carolina was probably like wait you want to give us a 4th?

 

[vlad]

A fourth-round pick is just too much for a WR who hasn't done anything. If we had given up a fifth, I would have felt much better about it, especially since we are expected to get three extra fifth-round compensatory picks.
The 4th round picks are just so valuable. I am not sure why Jerry is giving them away like candy.

I feel like we could be giving up 7th round picks for him, Lance. Not Madden 7th round thinking, just that they had no competition for these.

 

[JW82]

Please add an are you kidding option.

 

[Mr_437]

No.
Mingo's ceiling is Noah Brown, and Jerry could've signed him in the offseason or traded for him with a 7th rounder, probably.

Hope Mingo becomes something, but I just don't see it.