Does anybody have faith in this coaching staff?

[silverbear]

I guess NFL.com stats are wrong. Thats what they say..so take a look.

No, maybe you should brush up on those reading skills-- the Cowboys averaged 28.4 OFFENSIVELY, and gave up 20.3 DEFENSIVELY...

And even that latter stat is skewed, distorted, because of the number of scores they gave up defensively (3 TDs) and on special teams (2 TDs)... take away those 35 points, and the defense actually allowed 18.1 points per game...

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I sure hope to see Felix score a td on Thurs.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

No one looked as I walked by

Just an invitation would have been just fine.
Said 'no' to him again and again - first he took my heart then he ran.
No one knows how I feel
what I say unless you read between mylines

One man walked away from me - first he took my hand
take my home.
Stanback
stanback
In the middle of my room I did not hear from you.
It's alright
it's alright to be standing in a line

Standing in a line
be standing in a line
I would cry.
Do not turn away
my friend
like a willow I can bend.
No man calls my name
no man came.
So I walked on down away from you

Maybe your attention was more than you could do.
One man did not call
he asked me for my love and that was all.
Stanback
stanback. . .
You do
you do.
So I walked on down the line away from you

Maby your attention was more than I could do.
One man did not call
well
he asked me for my love
that was all.
Stanback
stanback. . .
Well
I need a little sympathie
well
I need a little sympathie

Well
I need a little sympathie. I need to be standing in
stanback.
I need to be standing in
stanback
I need to be standing in
stanback.
Why don't you take me home? Why don't you take me home? Stanback

 

[JPTEXAS]

No, maybe you should brush up on those reading skills-- the Cowboys averaged 28.4 OFFENSIVELY, and gave up 20.3 DEFENSIVELY...

And even that latter stat is skewed, distorted, because of the number of scores they gave up defensively (3 TDs) and on special teams (2 TDs)... take away those 35 points, and the defense actually allowed 18.1 points per game...

I can read just fine..I don't live on the key board like some of you. If you goto the nfl.com.click stats for team
when it said NFC Defense Sacks 2007 Regular Season on all the pull down menus is said 28.4 pts. i thought that was high, but they have offensive stats on defensive catagories. I should have went under scoring.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Should I read this whole thread? Or is it going to just be butt-hurt whining from entitled Cowboys fans unhappy with the commitment level or decision making of the organization? Anybody with any sense around to help a brother out?

I would say no, but someone actually -- in one post -- said they preferred Zimmer to Wade as a DC and used the "but I did it in Madden and it worked better than what we're doing" argument.

In one post.

So the train wreck quotient is high.

 

[JPTEXAS]

Oh, do you somehow believe that Norv Turner built that team from the ground up to GET to the AFC Championship Game the very next year?

Please.

Marty Schotteheimer (sp?) isn't a great coach, but you don't fire a 14-2 head coach for personality conflicts with the front office.

Do you remember the Chargers slow start under Norv last season? They got hot at the right time, just like the Giants. You want to place that all on Norv, be my guest. I'd prefer the late night Twilight Zone marathon, but yours may end up being more interesting.

Nobody said Norv built the team..Marty did. He is a damn good regular season coach..His track record proves that. They just needed another coach to take them to the next level. Marty is alot like Big Bill. They both built the team that is loaded with talent. People were ready for them to go cause thay couldn't win in the playoffs. I am surprised as anyone that Norv did aswell as he did but it shows they need a good offensive minded coach. Kinda of like here... Do you want to give wade the full credit for 13-3? I think if it wasn't for Jason Garrett and the offensive explosion last year we would not had a great regular season. Yes the defense improved but the offense carried this team.

This team needs to win in Dec. and in Jan. Yes Romo and TO was bang up.. but other teams had injurys and found a way to win.
Thats all I was say when I started this post. Do you feel Wade can get the job done...Personally I don't care what the do in the regular season(maybe Dec) its all about the playoffs.

Doesn't it seam all the Dallas teams have the same problem(except the rangers) great regular seasons...fail in the playoffs.

 

[silverbear]

I can read just fine..I don't live on the key board like some of you. If you goto the nfl.com.click stats for team
when it said NFC Defense Sacks 2007 Regular Season on all the pull down menus is said 28.4 pts. i thought that was high, but they have offensive stats on defensive catagories. I should have went under scoring.

Can't even admit that you're wrong, eh?? How completely pathetic...

If you click on the Game Stats or Total Yards under Defense, as most people with a half a brain would have, the number is 20.3... why would ANYBODY go to the Sacks stat to find out the points per game a defense allowed??

 

[ladiewolve]

I like this coaching staff. I suppose if I had to say who I have the least amount of faith in it would be Read because of the coverage teams. He's not going anywhere this year, so buckle up.

I read some real good things about Herring the LBs coach. Everywhere he has been the LB corps got markedly better.

I was openly not excited to bring back Dave Campo, but I won't sit here and tell you that he isn't a top notch DBs coach. There will be improvement in the secondary and it won't simply be because of talent upgrades.

Bringing back Hudson Houck excited me. Have you seen the run blocking? Much better than in 2005 through 2007 already. I wanted Mike Solari, but was fine with Houck.

Some miss Parcells and don't like Bum's boy. I don't miss Parcells and I do like Wade. Call me crazy but I will take 13-3 and a loss in the playoffs over all 4 years Parcells was here. Now I'm going to get reminded that Parcells built the team. He also turned his back on them and walked away to South Florida.

Not a doubt in my mind this team will improve in 2008 and will win when it counts. I like the 2008 personnel better and I like the 2008 coaching staff better. I like the comments by the players about the coaching staff and the goals.

There are no excuses being made by this team. From the top on down.

How's that for fan swagger LadieWolve?

:starspin Perfect!! :starspin

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Nobody said Norv built the team..Marty did. He is a damn good regular season coach..His track record proves that. They just needed another coach to take them to the next level. Marty is alot like Big Bill. They both built the team that is loaded with talent. People were ready for them to go cause thay couldn't win in the playoffs. I am surprised as anyone that Norv did aswell as he did but it shows they need a good offensive minded coach. Kinda of like here... Do you want to give wade the full credit for 13-3? I think if it wasn't for Jason Garrett and the offensive explosion last year we would not had a great regular season. Yes the defense improved but the offense carried this team.

This team needs to win in Dec. and in Jan. Yes Romo and TO was bang up.. but other teams had injurys and found a way to win.
Thats all I was say when I started this post. Do you feel Wade can get the job done...Personally I don't care what the do in the regular season(maybe Dec) its all about the playoffs.

Doesn't it seam all the Dallas teams have the same problem(except the rangers) great regular seasons...fail in the playoffs.

I don't think you could put all the offensive success on Garrett. Parcells old school coaching system was holding the team back. All that was need was to losen up a little and let Tony play ball with TO the results would be there. Also factor in TO messed up hand the previous season it was clear to anyone with half a brain that any coaching change would involve an increase of offensive production.

 

[Doomsday101]

All I can say is yes I have faith in this coaching staff. That does not mean I will agree with every move they make but in the overall scheme of things yes I think this is a good staff and will have this team ready to go.

 

[aikemirv]

All I can say is yes I have faith in this coaching staff. That does not mean I will agree with every move they make but in the overall scheme of things yes I think this is a good staff and will have this team ready to go.

I have faith in them. Wades D had no problems in San Diego. Our players just need to show up and play.

#1 is stop the run. I think we will get better with that once the season comes and we will get this rust off. I think a lot of that comes from the light contact in practice that we have had. I think that is going to toughen up. There really is no reason why it would not. We have the same players as last season with the addition of one of the best LB's vs the run. I am not worried about that.

My main concern is the special teams at this point. They make me nervous. They can blame rookies all they want, but the fact of the matter is that every team is using rookies in the peseason and they are not having the problems we are. I think we have a few too many players that are comfortable with their roster spot if you ask me. There are really only 3-4 positions up for grabs and if you are a guy in that spot your specials teams play might get you on the team. If your on the team, you might not be giving everything on ST in the preseason.

 

[Bach]

Hopefully Wade will finally get it done. But anything less than a Super Bowl and he's likely a goner.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I guess NFL.com stats are wrong. Thats what they say..so take a look.

Again, you're wrong.

Here's the NFL.com stats

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...sonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Check out Dallas on line 13.

It's more like Dallas SCORED 28 points a game, not allowed 28 points a game.

And Pro-Football-Reference.com backs this up as well

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/2007.htm

So do you still want to back up Zimmer, even though you've been wrong on the amount of points the team allowed under Wade last year (way off in fact) and off on the last time the team played the 4-3 under Zimmer?

You don't think that the addition of WARE and other players would make more sacks than what Zimmer had to work with? If Zimmer had the talent that is on this defense now we would be great. Yes the defense folded..why Because we didn't have a offense and they were on the field most of the game.

1. Zimmer had Ware in 2005 & 2006 and Dallas recorded 38 and 34 sacks in those seasons. One year under Wade and Dallas recorded 46 sacks, the most by a Dallas team since 1994.

2. Here's a look at Dallas' time of possession rankings from 2003-2006 under Zimmer:

2003 - 2nd
2004 - 12th
2005 - 2nd
2006 - 10th

The offenses may not have been explosive, but they sure kept the ball for quite some time. Yet the defense folded each of those years in the second half of the season.

Whether or not they had Ware, Zimmer should've been able to do something with the defense in the time he was given, the first round draft picks and free agents he was given.

Instead, he remained steadfast at stopping the run at all costs and it showed (and hurt the team in the end). He then went to Atlanta to play his coveted 4-3/Cover 2 scheme and they had an anemic sack rate with one of the best pass rushers in the league in Jon Abraham and he got another first round pick (7th overall) in Jammal Anderson, a DE who played every game last season and had a whopping ZERO sacks last year.







YAKUZA

 

[Doomsday101]

I have faith in them. Wades D had no problems in San Diego. Our players just need to show up and play.

#1 is stop the run. I think we will get better with that once the season comes and we will get this rust off. I think a lot of that comes from the light contact in practice that we have had. I think that is going to toughen up. There really is no reason why it would not. We have the same players as last season with the addition of one of the best LB's vs the run. I am not worried about that.

My main concern is the special teams at this point. They make me nervous. They can blame rookies all they want, but the fact of the matter is that every team is using rookies in the peseason and they are not having the problems we are. I think we have a few too many players that are comfortable with their roster spot if you ask me. There are really only 3-4 positions up for grabs and if you are a guy in that spot your specials teams play might get you on the team. If your on the team, you might not be giving everything on ST in the preseason.

I agree special teams are a concern but it is also the last group that is put together. As they put together the final 53 man roster some guys will make the team off special teams and some that may currently be on special teams will not make the club. I guess the one thing that makes me optimistic is the fact we have a very good FG kicker as well as punter and we have some very good return men on this team and I think before all is said and done the coverage unit will improve.

 

[Chief]

I like the staff as a whole. Watching Hard Knocks, Ray Sherman is especially impressive.

But to be honest, I don't trust Wade Phillips to hire a good special teams coach and put the proper emphasis on special teams. He's a great defensive coach, but I'm not convinced he knows how to turn things up a notch when the weather turns cold and the stakes get higher.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I want Felix Jones to return kicks IDC how much they want to use him on offense.

 

[Idgit]

I would say no, but someone actually -- in one post -- said they preferred Zimmer to Wade as a DC and used the "but I did it in Madden and it worked better than what we're doing" argument.

In one post.

So the train wreck quotient is high.

I have no self-restraint: I got sucked into this tar-baby of a thread. At least I learned something about how to read defensive statistics.

Our team's a lot better than I thought when I don't read all of our vital statistics all ***-backwards. Suddenly our coaching staff doesn't look so bad.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I like Dat Nguyen. Anyone that has eaten at a Hu-Dat will recognize the talent.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I have no self-restraint: I got sucked into this tar-baby of a thread. At least I learned something about how to read defensive statistics.

Our team's a lot better than I thought when I don't read all of our vital statistics all ***-backwards. Suddenly our coaching staff doesn't look so bad.

:laugh2:

 

[big dog cowboy]

If Barry Switzer can win a super bowl, so can Wade.