Don’t fold too quick FO

Alexander

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Jerry should offer Zeke to guarantee his salary for the year, like it was before the suspension, to get Zeke into camp. I understand guys not wanting to risk camp without guaranteed money. But that doesn't entitle you to a new contract.

I wouldn't go that far, but look at what Arthur Blank did with Julio Jones last year. They just accelerated money due later in his contract to him in that year.

It is a show of good faith and then you move on.

Maybe that is what he is angling for.
 

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I am seeing that the FO has given solid offers to these triplets.

I would love to know what these offers are.

Cooper - Seems to be quiet and says he isn’t worried and will let the other WR set the market. But yet FO is saying they gave him a offer. He may be a sniper. Lol. Quiet but wanting to take that offer and see what others get and then take another look at it. End of the day wanting the most he can get. If it’s more than his worth then oh well.. His stats aren’t as great as the other WR that are asking for this major money. Not saying he can’t be.

Dak - I don’t like his agent asking for Wilson money when Dak hasn’t achieved what Wilson has done. If the FO believe in him they should have went quicker, before wentz got a deal he didn’t deserve IMO. The wentz deal should have been 28-30 he can’t stay healthy and actually seems to choke a bit. Now Daks deal has to basically start at 32. Likely what they have offered and are playing with the guaranteed and signing bonus. Dak says he is active in the negotiations. If your a leader then step up Dak. Your agent is asking for more than your worth. If they can’t afford to put a team around you then you will look horrible but if your getting paid then I guess it won’t matter if your embarrassed and out of the league or a backup after the deal is done or as soon as we can move on. Dak is a good QB and could end up being great but they all need a team around them with the exception of very few. Only brady can carry a team with scraps and he still needs a defense.

Elliot - Now we have this kid. Actually looking like he is gonna pull a Emmitt. This upsets me. After what he has been through off field and this FO and team has stood beside him. Yeah he is a major part of the Offense and a lot think the Offense goes totally through him. Well that’s not totally correct. I don’t like him doing this. Holding the team hostage. If I am the FO then I am cutting Chum and Jackson. I am resigning Alfred Morris. He knows the system and will give you all he has, he don’t have the break away speed but will work hard and give you a 100 yard game. Develop Pollard in the TC. Let Elliot sit at home or over seas. He walks through TC and don’t play preseason anyways.

1 - Make a last and final to Dak. If his agent don’t take it then let him play out his rookie deal and if they can’t come to a deal then tag him.

2 - Let Cooper set back and watch. If Gallup steps up and Cobb plays well. And the Y option for Witten will be open all day. Then at the end of the year his stats may not match up with what his agent wants. Although I would really like to sign him.

3 - Elliot maybe under paid but he signed a rookie 1st round contact. If you don’t want to play the 5th year option then ok. But you were smiling when you got that signing bonus. And that is where we fold. SJ wants him and already said he has the money set aside. If they gave him a offer then it’s already above what gurly got. I hope Pollard shines and I am signing Morris now.

At some point the FO has to say ok. Let’s roll. Cooper can wait and Dak can play out his rookie deal. If you don’t improve because your polly pissy pants over not getting your deal then no one else will give you the money you want either. And if Elliot don’t sign a deal that makes him the new highest paid RB then I let the contract details out to the media. Let everyone know we offered him the contract. He is a beast and maybe another team gives us a draft pick for him and pays him but he may very well end up in trouble again before he can turn down the deal. He is a good RB but if he can’t stay out of trouble then he will have issues. We could play hard ball and use the option on him next year also. Play and play well or it will cost you.

We don’t have to fold. I don’t like these agents having players hold things over a teams head. Holding off on surgeries until there signed. Holding out after 3 years of your rookie deal. Asking for top money when your stats don’t add up to what top player do.

It’s all over the NFL and not just our team. Dak starts this crap with saying we can sign everyone to top money because the cap goes up and gambling money will help. Let’s see what happens when the team has to start asking you to renegotiate and redo your contract so we can hire a guy to help you look good.

a lot of these guys we won't remember in 5 years nor care.
 

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I am seeing that the FO has given solid offers to these triplets.

I would love to know what these offers are.

Cooper - Seems to be quiet and says he isn’t worried and will let the other WR set the market. But yet FO is saying they gave him a offer. He may be a sniper. Lol. Quiet but wanting to take that offer and see what others get and then take another look at it. End of the day wanting the most he can get. If it’s more than his worth then oh well.. His stats aren’t as great as the other WR that are asking for this major money. Not saying he can’t be.

Dak - I don’t like his agent asking for Wilson money when Dak hasn’t achieved what Wilson has done. If the FO believe in him they should have went quicker, before wentz got a deal he didn’t deserve IMO. The wentz deal should have been 28-30 he can’t stay healthy and actually seems to choke a bit. Now Daks deal has to basically start at 32. Likely what they have offered and are playing with the guaranteed and signing bonus. Dak says he is active in the negotiations. If your a leader then step up Dak. Your agent is asking for more than your worth. If they can’t afford to put a team around you then you will look horrible but if your getting paid then I guess it won’t matter if your embarrassed and out of the league or a backup after the deal is done or as soon as we can move on. Dak is a good QB and could end up being great but they all need a team around them with the exception of very few. Only brady can carry a team with scraps and he still needs a defense.

Elliot - Now we have this kid. Actually looking like he is gonna pull a Emmitt. This upsets me. After what he has been through off field and this FO and team has stood beside him. Yeah he is a major part of the Offense and a lot think the Offense goes totally through him. Well that’s not totally correct. I don’t like him doing this. Holding the team hostage. If I am the FO then I am cutting Chum and Jackson. I am resigning Alfred Morris. He knows the system and will give you all he has, he don’t have the break away speed but will work hard and give you a 100 yard game. Develop Pollard in the TC. Let Elliot sit at home or over seas. He walks through TC and don’t play preseason anyways.

1 - Make a last and final to Dak. If his agent don’t take it then let him play out his rookie deal and if they can’t come to a deal then tag him.

2 - Let Cooper set back and watch. If Gallup steps up and Cobb plays well. And the Y option for Witten will be open all day. Then at the end of the year his stats may not match up with what his agent wants. Although I would really like to sign him.

3 - Elliot maybe under paid but he signed a rookie 1st round contact. If you don’t want to play the 5th year option then ok. But you were smiling when you got that signing bonus. And that is where we fold. SJ wants him and already said he has the money set aside. If they gave him a offer then it’s already above what gurly got. I hope Pollard shines and I am signing Morris now.

At some point the FO has to say ok. Let’s roll. Cooper can wait and Dak can play out his rookie deal. If you don’t improve because your polly pissy pants over not getting your deal then no one else will give you the money you want either. And if Elliot don’t sign a deal that makes him the new highest paid RB then I let the contract details out to the media. Let everyone know we offered him the contract. He is a beast and maybe another team gives us a draft pick for him and pays him but he may very well end up in trouble again before he can turn down the deal. He is a good RB but if he can’t stay out of trouble then he will have issues. We could play hard ball and use the option on him next year also. Play and play well or it will cost you.

We don’t have to fold. I don’t like these agents having players hold things over a teams head. Holding off on surgeries until there signed. Holding out after 3 years of your rookie deal. Asking for top money when your stats don’t add up to what top player do.

It’s all over the NFL and not just our team. Dak starts this crap with saying we can sign everyone to top money because the cap goes up and gambling money will help. Let’s see what happens when the team has to start asking you to renegotiate and redo your contract so we can hire a guy to help you look good.

ZEKE IS A GOOD QB!!!!
BUT HE IS NOT EMMITT NOR PETERSON!!!!!!
GET REAL, YOU WOMAN BEATER!!!!!!
 

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The current version of the front office is happy to take its time. It gets good deals, and it doesn’t lose players it wants to keep. If you’ve got issues, it should be with the players they choose to keep rather than with how they go about keeping them.
 

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I wouldn't go that far, but look at what Arthur Blank did with Julio Jones last year. They just accelerated money due later in his contract to him in that year.

It is a show of good faith and then you move on.

Maybe that is what he is angling for.

Rumor I saw was that he wasn't looking for acceleration, he was looking for 4 years, 60 mil.

In terms of acceleration, I'd do that with Dak. Offer a 1 year extension at franchise value, but accelerate half the money to this year.
 

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If Dak wants THIRTY TWO MILLION a year, he better be damn well ready and able to throw the ball 30 times a game and carry the team if he has too.

LOL......GL with that ain't happening as Dak is Dak.....dink or dunk anyone?
 

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I'm inclined to agree that the FO would be foolish to panic and allow the players and their agents to render an overly generous decision.

The most advantageous contracts are usually most successfully negotiated when the results are agreeable and beneficial to both sides.
 

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32 million a year for Dak.......GL with that.....never gonna happen!
Lol. I know you don’t like it. I am not a fan of it either but I have a feeling pappy. I have a feeling that they may do it. If he performs at the level he did the last half of the 2018 season and with a healthy O-Line and full complement of WR then there is no reason to think he won’t then his price and the market price will rise higher next year. Only stumbling block could be a Elliot hold out. He has to have that running game. Which is why we already gave Elliot a offer higher that gurly.
 

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We do not know what Zeke has been offered
SJ already said he has gurly money set aside for the opening offer. So my guess would be this gets done. We shouldn’t have to go up much. I think gurly is over paid for what he has done since the contract.
 

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Lol. I know you don’t like it. I am not a fan of it either but I have a feeling pappy. I have a feeling that they may do it. If he performs at the level he did the last half of the 2018 season and with a healthy O-Line and full complement of WR then there is no reason to think he won’t then his price and the market price will rise higher next year. Only stumbling block could be a Elliot hold out. He has to have that running game. Which is why we already gave Elliot a offer higher that gurly.

The only was a contract that averages 32m per year works is if the guaranteed money is low allowing the team to get out of the deal if they have to, since i don't see that happenning i'm hoping the team doesn't cave and give him a deal like that with a ton of money guaranteed. I personally don't know why they would given the fact they can tag him next season
 

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It's amazing how fans will bend over backwards to support billionaires while trashing players, because they just want to see their favorite uniforms win and don't give a hoot about the guys wearing them. :rolleyes:

I don’t shop at Walmart because I care about the stock boy or cashier, I just want a quality product at the best price.:)
 

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Lol. I know you don’t like it. I am not a fan of it either but I have a feeling pappy. I have a feeling that they may do it. If he performs at the level he did the last half of the 2018 season and with a healthy O-Line and full complement of WR then there is no reason to think he won’t then his price and the market price will rise higher next year. Only stumbling block could be a Elliot hold out. He has to have that running game. Which is why we already gave Elliot a offer higher that gurly.
Bud not even Jerry and Co. are that stupid. They will offer Dak a game managers wage if its not accepted they are going QB hunting come next off-season as the Team is still YOUNG and the window is wide open/
Only missing piece is a quality QB and that will be re-verified this coming season that Dak and quality are at odds big time!
I mean common now dude is a Tyrod Taylor glorified!!!!
 
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