Drafting Zeke was football stupid

[KJJ]

That's actually my argument. There are potentially great players at #4 in almost every draft. And it gets harder and harder to hit on players at specific position groups the further down you go. Like it or not, QBs are harder to find than RBs, so they get taken sooner. The same with pass rushers and cover CBs. Which makes it tactically smarter to take those positions higher if you have the choice. It's crazy to think a RB has to perform at the 1500 yard/15 TD level to justify his draft position, but if you're going to take him at the expense of a Wentz or a Bosa, he pretty much has to.

Which is why I'm glad that Zeke is.

You mentioned finding good players lower in the draft and you can but it sounds to me like that's what you wanted the Cowboys to do at RB, try and find a good one lower in the draft. The odds are you'll end up with another Joseph Randle or one of many other good to decent backs that are drafted later in the draft. Rarely do you come up with a truly "special" back after round 1-2. It's happened with Terrell Davis and a few others but it's rare. Most of the truly great/special backs were drafted high such as Dorsett, Dickerson, Campbell, Payton, Sanders, Peterson and others. My argument this past offseason was wanting to pair a potentially "great" back with our OL. We saw in the early to mid 90s what the combination of Emmitt and our OL meant to our offense and the team as a whole. It made us virtually unstoppable and kept Aikman from having to produce big numbers.

What we're seeing so far this season is very reminiscent to what we saw in 2014 due to our running game. Our last 2 games were our most impressive and Dak never attempted more than 27 passes in either game. We didn't even have Dez. In 3 of Dak's first 4 games he attempted more than 30 passes but the better our running game has gotten, the better he's gotten and his attempts are starting to lower. In the opener when we couldn't run he wasn't very efficient and we saw some of the same issues that plagued us last season in the redzone. We started bogging down and having to settle for FG's and it helped cost us that game. We're starting to impose our will on opponents, we saw it on Sunday and it's due to the running game. This is what we did in the 90s. We didn't just beat the Packers on Sunday we started kicking their *** and you could hear the frustration from their fan base.

If Dak continues to improve and Zeke keeps up his pace, we could be looking at something very special this season. More special than any of us even the FANS ever imagined. There's not a team in the NFC I don't think we can't beat right now. No rookie QB has ever led a team to the SB but as crazy as it sounds the possibility is starting to grow. We have a long way to go but but I'm seeing a glimmer of something that could be special. Doing what we did to Green Bay at Lambeau on Sunday with Aaron Rodgers at QB has got me thinking thoughts I can't even believe I'm thinking. There's some real possibilities with this team if we can keep riding this wave we're on.

Dak is looking unflappable right now, I've never seen a rookie QB look as efficient and composed as he's looked. Granted bumps are going to come and we probably will hit a big one at some point but if we can avoid being derailed this team could go far. You know me, I don't say things that I don't believe but this team so far has got me believing. I'm still worried about the defense and getting a 4th quarter pass rush when we have to have it, that could eventually be our undoing but this team has given me more hope than I've had in awhile.

 

[Idgit]

You mentioned finding good players lower in the draft and you can but it sounds to me like that's what you wanted the Cowboys to do at RB, try and find a good one lower in the draft. The odds are you'll end up with another Joseph Randle or one of many other good to decent backs that are drafted later in the draft. Rarely do you come up with a truly "special" back after round 1-2. It's happened with Terrell Davis and a few others but it's rare. Most of the truly great/special backs were drafted high such as Dorsett, Dickerson, Campbell, Payton, Sanders, Peterson and others. My argument this past offseason was wanting to pair a potentially "great" back with our OL. We saw in the early to mid 90s what the combination of Emmitt and our OL meant to our offense and the team as a whole. It made us virtually unstoppable and kept Aikman from having to produce big numbers.

What we're seeing so far this season is very reminiscent to what we saw in 2014 due to our running game. Our last 2 games were our most impressive and Dak never attempted more than 27 passes in either game. We didn't even have Dez. In 3 of Dak's first 4 games he attempted more than 30 passes but the better our running game has gotten, the better he's gotten and his attempts are starting to lower. In the opener when we couldn't run he wasn't very efficient and we saw some of the same issues that plagued us last season in the redzone. We started bogging down and having to settle for FG's and it helped cost us that game. We're starting to impose our will on opponents, we saw it on Sunday and it's due to the running game. This is what we did in the 90s. We didn't just beat the Packers on Sunday we started kicking their *** and you could hear the frustration from their fan base.

If Dak continues to improve and Zeke keeps up his pace, we could be looking at something very special this season. More special than any of us even the FANS ever imagined. There's not a team in the NFC I don't think we can't beat right now. No rookie QB has ever led a team to the SB but as crazy as it sounds the possibility is starting to grow. We have a long way to go but but I'm seeing a glimmer of something that could be special. Doing what we did to Green Bay at Lambeau on Sunday with Aaron Rodgers at QB has got me thinking thoughts I can't even believe I'm thinking. There's some real possibilities with this team if we can keep riding this wave we're on.

Dak is looking unflappable right now, I've never seen a rookie QB look as efficient and composed as he's looked. Granted bumps are going to come and we probably will hit a big one at some point but if we can avoid being derailed this team could go far. You know me, I don't say things that I don't believe but this team so far has got me believing. I'm still worried about the defense and getting a 4th quarter pass rush when we have to have it, that could eventually be our undoing but this team has given me more hope than I've had in awhile.

We're talking top-5 pick, that's the point. If we were talking about the 2nd round, it'd be different discussion. But there are plenty of good backs in recent years taken outside the first round, must less the top-5:

Carlos Hyde
Le'Veon Bell
Alfred Morris
Eddie Lacy
Lamar Miller
Demarco Murray
LeSean McCoy
Matt Forte
Ray Rice
Jamaal Charles

What we're seeing is reminiscent of 2014 because of the QB play. And I'd argue we'd have seen something similar last year, too, if we had good QB play. I'd also argue that we'd see something similar to what we're seeing now with Morris and a RB draft pick from somewhere after #34 this season.

Dak does look great, and he's got me believing we can compete, too. Romo would, too, if he were in the lineup. The real star of the team, though, is the OL that's able to protect the QB and keep us in 2nd and manageable situations so much of the time.

What Zeke gives us that's really special is the potential for splash plays in the running game like he did last week. That, and he holds onto the ball and he pass protects like a madman. He's got an all-around game. Again, I love what he brings to the team, I just don't like what it cost us.

I'm really not saying anything all that different from what the posters who didn't want to extend Dez are saying, when you think about it. It's just that I didn't want us to commit draft resources to the position, and they didn't want to commit cap dollars to WR. Not all that different. It's not that anybody thinks Zeke or Dez can't play. It's just a question of how to use the limited resources. If we had better talent on defense, I'd be fine taking a relative luxury pick at RB. As it is, we're making do with spit and bailing wire on that side of the ball, though, and I"m not ok with that.

 

[KJJ]

We're talking top-5 pick, that's the point. If we were talking about the 2nd round, it'd be different discussion. But there are plenty of good backs in recent years taken outside the first round, must less the top-5:

Carlos Hyde
Le'Veon Bell
Alfred Morris
Eddie Lacy
Lamar Miller
Demarco Murray
LeSean McCoy
Matt Forte
Ray Rice
Jamaal Charles

What we're seeing is reminiscent of 2014 because of the QB play. And I'd argue we'd have seen something similar last year, too, if we had good QB play. I'd also argue that we'd see something similar to what we're seeing now with Morris and a RB draft pick from somewhere after #34 this season.

Dak does look great, and he's got me believing we can compete, too. Romo would, too, if he were in the lineup. The real star of the team, though, is the OL that's able to protect the QB and keep us in 2nd and manageable situations so much of the time.

What Zeke gives us that's really special is the potential for splash plays in the running game like he did last week. That, and he holds onto the ball and he pass protects like a madman. He's got an all-around game. Again, I love what he brings to the team, I just don't like what it cost us.

I'm really not saying anything all that different from what the posters who didn't want to extend Dez are saying, when you think about it. It's just that I didn't want us to commit draft resources to the position, and they didn't want to commit cap dollars to WR. Not all that different. It's not that anybody thinks Zeke or Dez can't play. It's just a question of how to use the limited resources. If we had better talent on defense, I'd be fine taking a relative luxury pick at RB. As it is, we're making do with spit and bailing wire on that side of the ball, though, and I"m not ok with that.

I'm aware there's been good backs taken outside the first round over the past few years but it's still a crapshoot trying to land one which is why you could only come up with a few names. We could have drafted Bell or Lacy instead of Escobar a few years ago, both backs were drafted after him. You seemed to feel we could have drafted a back later this past April but you still haven't come up with a back who's been looking real good that we could have selected. Zeke was the best player on the board at #4, a complete back with power, speed, receiving ability and he's a great blocker. Go back and watch the run he had against Green Bay where he hurdled the defender and kept running through more defenders for 5 more yards. That was special! He has "special" written all over him and we couldn't afford to pass up a player of that caliber. Of the backs you listed we have Morris who's averaging only 3.9 on 33 carries despite our great OL. CMike and Turbin both looked average behind our OL last season.

Randle got off to hot starts but faded and McFadden was up and down. As for our great QB play in 2014 and this season look no further than the running game as a big part of the reason. I already pointed out what happened on opening day when Zeke averaged less than 3.0 a carry it affected our QB play. Dak was forced to put the ball up 45 times and had by far his lowest passer rating game of the season of 69.4. He only completed 55.5% of his passes and no TD's. The better Zeke has gotten the better Dak has gotten, the running game has clearly helped him. Romo never had as efficient a season as he had in 2014 because he never had the kind of prolific running game he had that season. He had a career low in attempts in which he played at least 15 games. He wasn't having to carry the offense. You need playmakers on offense especially if you have an aging, injury prone QB. Part of why Zeke was drafted was to try and extend Romo's career.

We're trying to give him as much help as possible and part of why he was injured in 2015 was because he was back having to air it out due to our lack of a consistent running game. Randle and McFadden combined for under 4.0 a carry the first two weeks, forcing Romo to have to pass more. We were being put in long down situations and both of Romo's injuries came in long down situations where the defense could pin their ears back and come after him. This is just another one of those topics where you see things one way and I see things another. I said during the offseason if we can get back to running the ball like we did in 2014 we could have a solid season.

I argued about the running game for months and it's no coincidence that we're playing great football due to running the ball effectively. It's one of the big reasons we're getting such good QB play from a rookie. Dak would not be doing as well if he was having to put the ball up 40 plus times like he did in the opener or was having to throw 2-3 TD's every week for us to get into the endzone. I complained last season about our lack of rushing TD's. I said when we drafted Zeke it would't surprise me if we tripled our rushing TD's this season and we're well on our way to doing that.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You mentioned finding good players lower in the draft and you can but it sounds to me like that's what you wanted the Cowboys to do at RB, try and find a good one lower in the draft. The odds are you'll end up with another Joseph Randle or one of many other good to decent backs that are drafted later in the draft. Rarely do you come up with a truly "special" back after round 1-2. It's happened with Terrell Davis and a few others but it's rare. Most of the truly great/special backs were drafted high such as Dorsett, Dickerson, Campbell, Payton, Sanders, Peterson and others. My argument this past offseason was wanting to pair a potentially "great" back with our OL. We saw in the early to mid 90s what the combination of Emmitt and our OL meant to our offense and the team as a whole. It made us virtually unstoppable and kept Aikman from having to produce big numbers.

What we're seeing so far this season is very reminiscent to what we saw in 2014 due to our running game. Our last 2 games were our most impressive and Dak never attempted more than 27 passes in either game. We didn't even have Dez. In 3 of Dak's first 4 games he attempted more than 30 passes but the better our running game has gotten, the better he's gotten and his attempts are starting to lower. In the opener when we couldn't run he wasn't very efficient and we saw some of the same issues that plagued us last season in the redzone. We started bogging down and having to settle for FG's and it helped cost us that game. We're starting to impose our will on opponents, we saw it on Sunday and it's due to the running game. This is what we did in the 90s. We didn't just beat the Packers on Sunday we started kicking their *** and you could hear the frustration from their fan base.

If Dak continues to improve and Zeke keeps up his pace, we could be looking at something very special this season. More special than any of us even the FANS ever imagined. There's not a team in the NFC I don't think we can't beat right now. No rookie QB has ever led a team to the SB but as crazy as it sounds the possibility is starting to grow. We have a long way to go but but I'm seeing a glimmer of something that could be special. Doing what we did to Green Bay at Lambeau on Sunday with Aaron Rodgers at QB has got me thinking thoughts I can't even believe I'm thinking. There's some real possibilities with this team if we can keep riding this wave we're on.

Dak is looking unflappable right now, I've never seen a rookie QB look as efficient and composed as he's looked. Granted bumps are going to come and we probably will hit a big one at some point but if we can avoid being derailed this team could go far. You know me, I don't say things that I don't believe but this team so far has got me believing. I'm still worried about the defense and getting a 4th quarter pass rush when we have to have it, that could eventually be our undoing but this team has given me more hope than I've had in awhile.

You're trying to reframe the debate by equating Top 5 pick = 1st-2nd round.

There's a vast difference between drafting a RB with the 24th pick than spending the 4th overall pick on one.

 

[KJJ]

You're trying to reframe the debate by equating Top 5 pick = 1st-2nd round.

There's a vast difference between drafting a RB with the 24th pick than spending the 4th overall pick on one.

You don't know what's going on you continue to get things twisted. Many weren't happy with us taking Zeke at #4 and argued we could have found a good back later in the draft, even later than the first or second round. Some were satisfied with McFadden thinking he had a great year. The poster I was responding to still thinks the OL makes the back despite what happened last season and that we could have drafted another back later. Had we done that we likely would have ended up with no better than what we had at RB last season.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You don't know what's going on you continue to get things twisted. Many weren't happy with us taking Zeke at #4 and argued we could have found a good back later in the draft, even later than the first or second round. Some were satisfied with McFadden thinking he had a great year. The poster I was responding to still thinks the OL makes the back despite what happened last season and that we could have drafted another back later. Had we done that we likely would have ended up with no better than what we had at RB last season.

I know exactly what's going on because it's the same debate since April.

You can get a good, special and/or elite back later in the 1st round and 2nd round. Are you really disputing that?

 

[KJJ]

I know exactly what's going on because it's the same debate since April.

You can get a good, special and/or elite back later in the 1st round and 2nd round. Are you really disputing that?

If you read what I've said in this thread I'm not disputing that you can come up with a good, special or elite back later in the first and second round, try following my posts. McFadden could be considered a good back last season based on his production but me and many others wanted a special/elite back to pair with our OL and the odds are pretty long finding one later in the first or second round. No one is saying you can't find one but it's a crapshoot the longer you go.

We had what many considered a special/elite back in Zeke there for the taking and it would've been foolish to pass on close to a sure thing and play the odds later in the draft. We made the right decision by taking him and if anyone can't see that they need to take off their blinders. He's a great runner and he's one of the main reasons we're having a great season.

 

[Doomsday101]

I know exactly what's going on because it's the same debate since April.

You can get a good, special and/or elite back later in the 1st round and 2nd round. Are you really disputing that?

You know you can get a special and or elite WR in later rounds, same with QB and every other position.
I think people focus more on position than the actual talent of the player. Not all RB are created equal just like any other position and what you are looking for in my view in the draft especially when drafting early is to find special players who you feel are true playmakers

 

[KJJ]

I know exactly what's going on because it's the same debate since April.

You can get a good, special and/or elite back later in the 1st round and 2nd round.

The debate that's been going on with some is the same debate we had when Murray was here that any good back would be sufficient behind our OL. Some wish we would have stayed with McFadden or gone with Morris who's averaged only 3.9 a carry on 33 carries despite how great our OL is. Many seemed to think that any good back could have done what Emmitt did in the 90s behind our OL. The back matters and some still don't seem to get that despite what happened last season. Some here seem to think we could have found another back later in the draft that could be doing what Zeke is doing which is ridiculous! Most of the special/elite backs were top 10 picks like Eric Dickerson, Sanders, Campbell, Payton, Dorsett and Peterson.

I've heard several in the know say that Zeke is in that mold of those great backs and you can't pass a back of that caliber up and see if you can hit the jackpot later. I laugh every time someone says we could have come up with a special back late in the first round or in the second round and they can only come up with 4-6 backs in the history of the game that turned out SPECIAL that were drafted later. Thurman Thomas was a second round pick but it's not common to hit on a back of that caliber later, you have to get lucky. There's only been one player that was drafted after Zeke that's been as good as him or better and that was Dak. That's the kind of two headed monster we have at RB and QB and you have some that are saying taking Zeke was still a mistake despite him leading the league in rushing and the Cowboys being 5-1.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

If you read what I've said in this thread I'm not disputing that you can come up with a good, special or elite back later in the first and second round, try following my posts. McFadden could be considered a good back last season based on his production but me and many others wanted a special/elite back to pair with our OL and the odds are pretty long finding one later in the first or second round. No one is saying you can't find one but it's a crapshoot the longer you go.

We had what many considered a special/elite back in Zeke there for the taking and it would've been foolish to pass on close to a sure thing and play the odds later in the draft. We made the right decision by taking him and if anyone can't see that they need to take off their blinders. He's a great runner and he's one of the main reasons we're having a great season.

What you and many others keep purposely glossing over is the fact McFadden effectively ran for 1,000+ yards at a 4.6 YPC clip in just 11 games WITHOUT a competent QB.

Do you really think all things being equal last year that McFadden doesn't go 1,500-1,600+ with a healthy Romo and 16 starts?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

The debate that's been going on with some is the same debate we had when Murray was here that any good back would be sufficient behind our OL. Some wish we would have stayed with McFadden or gone with Morris who's averaged only 3.9 a carry on 33 carries despite how great our OL is. Many seemed to think that any good back could have done what Emmitt did in the 90s behind our OL. The back matters and some still don't seem to get that despite what happened last season. Some here seem to think we could have found another back later in the draft that could be doing what Zeke is doing which is ridiculous! Most of the special/elite backs were top 10 picks like Eric Dickerson, Sanders, Campbell, Payton, Dorsett and Peterson.

I've heard several in the know say that Zeke is in that mold of those great backs and you can't pass a back of that caliber up and see if you can hit the jackpot later. I laugh every time someone says we could have come up with a special back late in the first round or in the second round and they can only come up with 4-6 backs in the history of the game that turned out SPECIAL that were drafted later. Thurman Thomas was a second round pick but it's not common to hit on a back of that caliber later, you have to get lucky. There's only been one player that was drafted after Zeke that's been as good as him or better and that was Dak. That's the kind of two headed monster we have at RB and QB and you have some that are saying taking Zeke was still a mistake despite him leading the league in rushing and the Cowboys being 5-1.

Your screeds continue to be devoid of context. You bring up Morris' pedestrian YPC on limited sample size and act like he's not being brought in on obvious running downs.

 

[KJJ]

What you and many others keep purposely glossing over is the fact McFadden effectively ran for 1,000+ yards at a 4.6 YPC clip in just 11 games WITHOUT a competent QB.

Do you really think all things being equal last year that McFadden doesn't go 1,500-1,600+ with a healthy Romo and 16 starts?

McFadden had a competent QB in Romo into the 3rd quarter vs Carolina and was averaging 1.1 a carry. His 4.6 average was blown up the last 4 games when the Cowboys were dead! He had his best rushing averages without Romo the final 4 games with averages of 12.3, 6.3, 5.2, 7.7 that was all done with Cassel and Kellen Moore at QB. Prior to those games when we still had a pulse he was averaging well under 4.0 a carry. There's NO WAY IN HELL that McFadden would have rushed for 1500 to 1600 yards had Romo stayed healthy. He only played one good game with Romo on the field. He would have one big game and completely fall off the next week. It was almost like he was to of gas the next week. He followed up his 129 yards vs Miami with 11 yards vs Carolina. He followed up his 117 yards vs Philly with 32 yards vs Tampa in which he averaged only 1.9 a carry. He had three 100 yard games without Romo so the QB situation made no difference. The first 2 games of the season with Romo he averaged under 4.0 a carry with the opportunities he got.

 

[KJJ]

Your screeds continue to be devoid of context. You bring up Morris' pedestrian YPC on limited sample size and act like he's not being brought in on obvious running downs.

Randle averaged 6.7 a carry with only 51 carries in 2014. Morris already has 17 more carries than Randle got after 6 games in 2014 and is averaging only 3.9 a carry. In the opener Morris averaged 5.0 on only 7 carries. He averaged 4.9 on 7 carries vs SF. He averaged 5.5 on only 6 carries vs Chicago. He's had 2 very poor games which has dropped his average.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Randle averaged 6.7 a carry with only 51 carries in 2014. Morris already has 17 more carries than Randle got after 6 games in 2014 and is averaging only 3.9 a carry. In the opener Morris averaged 5.0 on only 7 carries. He averaged 4.9 on 7 carries vs SF. He averaged 5.5 on only 6 carries vs Chicago. He's had 2 very poor games which has dropped his average.

I can tell you've zero post high school experience because your complete lack of objectivity would be squelched out if you ever wrote a research paper of any sorts.

Morris has 33 carries. Randle had 51. End of story.

Beyond that you're dealing with small sample sizes that can either inflate or decrease averages.

 

[KJJ]

I can tell you've zero post high school experience because your complete lack of objectivity would be squelched out if you ever wrote a research paper of any sorts.

Morris has 33 carries. Randle had 51. End of story.

Beyond that you're dealing with small sample sizes that can either inflate or decrease averages.

Stick with the topic and don't make this personal. You mentioned that McFadden could have had 1500-1600 yards with a healthy Romo which is ridiculous because with a healthy Romo we would have thrown the ball the more. Romo attempted 45 passes in the opener and was on pace for another 40 plus attempt game when he got injured in Philly. The reason McFadden had a career high in carries was due to our poor QB situation which forced us to lean on the run when we needed to pass the ball to win games. The 4 best rushing averages McFadden had last season we lost every game. You have no clue what you're talking about because if you did the team wouldn't have made the move they did at RB during the draft. Case closed!

 

[Nightman]

I know exactly what's going on because it's the same debate since April.

You can get a good, special and/or elite back later in the 1st round and 2nd round. Are you really disputing that?

There are 16 HoF RBs since the merger, the special or elite as you say

9 of them were drafted #6 or higher
5 more of them were drafted between #7-17 or higher
that is 14 out of 16.......the other 2 were drafted 40th and 74th overall

You want elite you have to draft them early

 

[dogunwo]

I said drafting Dak was a wasted draft pick ....... I was so totally wrong and admitted as much.

This is the hardest part for most people. I had the same conversation with my wife. Just admit you were wrong and move on. Stop trying to justify your wrongness, lol.

However, if you can present factually your position, I respect that.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Stick with the topic and don't make this personal.

Button pushed....thanks for confirming what I always assumed, loool.

You mentioned that McFadden could have had 1500-1600 yards with a healthy Romo which is ridiculous because with a healthy Romo we would have thrown the ball the more.

Lol, what's ridiculous is you completely ignoring verifiable and demonstrated history.

In 2014, you know, the year we racked up 2,300+ yards rushing, Romo threw just 435 passes, the least amount of passing attempts he's ever had in a season in which he started at least 15 games.

Case closed.

Romo attempted 45 passes in the opener and was on pace for another 40 plus attempt game when he got injured in Philly. The reason McFadden had a career high in carries was due to our poor QB situation which forced us to lean on the run when we needed to pass the ball to win games. The 4 best rushing averages McFadden had last season we lost every game. You have no clue what you're talking about because if you did the team wouldn't have made the move they did at RB during the draft. Case closed!

Surprising. Yet another example of you abusing statistics to make them say what you want them to say. Now you're trying to project a season's worth of passing attempts based off of one game.

You're an embarrassment.

 

[KJJ]

Button pushed....thanks for confirming what I always assumed, loool.



Lol, what's ridiculous is you completely ignoring verifiable and demonstrated history.

In 2014, you know, the year we racked up 2,300+ yards rushing, Romo threw just 435 passes, the least amount of passing attempts he's ever had in a season in which he started at least 15 games.

Case closed.



Surprising. Yet another example of you abusing statistics to make them say what you want them to say. Now you're trying to project a season's worth of passing attempts based off of one game.

You're an embarrassment.

You're pushing the wrong buttons and the only one who's embarrassing themselves is you. You better up your game because you're becoming a big waste of time. The stat you got on Romo you got from me and the reason he had the least amount of attempts in which played at least 15 games in 2014 is because he had a terrific running game led by the leagues leading rusher. McFadden isn't in Murray's league which is why he wasn't even the starter in 2015 until Randle got hurt and released due to off the field issues.

Romo was having to throw a lot with McFadden on the field. Against Carolina, McFadden had 3 negative carries in his first 7 carries putting the game on Romo. McFadden only averaged 1.1 vs Carolina on 11 carries putting us in long down situations allowing the Panthers to pin their ears back and come after Romo. Had Romo lasted the entire 2015 season he would have had over 500 passing attempts with McFadden and the other backs we had. Now move on, you're boring me!

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You're pushing the wrong buttons and the only one who's embarrassing themselves is you. You better up your game because you're becoming a big waste of time. The stat you got on Romo you got from me and the reason he had the least amount of attempts in which played at least 15 games in 2014 is because he had a terrific running game led by the leagues leading rusher. McFadden isn't in Murray's league which is why he wasn't even the starter in 2015 until Randle got hurt and released due to off the field issues.

Romo was having to throw a lot with McFadden on the field. Against Carolina, McFadden had 3 negative carries in his first 7 carries putting the game on Romo. McFadden only averaged 1.1 vs Carolina on 11 carries putting us in long down situations allowing the Panthers to pin their ears back and come after Romo. Had Romo lasted the entire 2015 season he would have had over 500 passing attempts with McFadden and the other backs we had. Now move on, you're boring me!

Lol, smh...and the run game in 2014 was great because of the offensive line play and a competent QB to keep the defense honest.

In 2015, even despite having pure trash at QB, the offensive line was still able to help register a 1,000+ yard rusher running at a 4.6 YPC.

Ruh-roh, better go back to the drawing board....

"Leave me alone!!!" --- KJJ (remember when you said that, loool?)