Dustin Vaughan Looked Awful

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Showers only had 4 pass attempts so I think they're going to try and pass him through waivers to the practice squad.

Vaughan played with the starting line and guys who will make the 53 on the outside and couldn't do jack **** before the half and after it. He's brutal.

Thought you were above such zero sum sentiments. Your boy played poorly too. High throws and slow making reads is not a recipe for success.

 

[Alexander]

Thought you were above such zero sum sentiments. Your boy played poorly too. High throws and slow making reads is not a recipe for success.

At least Showers is paying the price to try to contribute on special teams.

I would like to say we could do better, but our backup QB situation is like a lot of teams.

 

[Alexander]

I don't think so either, if people have been watching him contribute in other areas. You can have him out there as a punt gunner or other ST guy and he can take snaps in an emergency like Antwan Randle-El did one year.

It is good he is diversifying, but he has not flashed to the point I would say there is no way he makes it through waivers.

 

[Alexander]

Vaughn was a FAN favorite with a few last summer rivaling the drooling many did over Alex Tanney the previous summer. Every summer the Cowboys add a young QB that seems to catch the fancy of a few then they go on to lay an egg the following summer.

That is because we have probably one of the more useless QB coaches in the league.

 

[Bluefin]

My guess is our backup QB is not on this roster yet. There are 3rd/4th string QBs on other rosters that are better than anything we are fielding at this point.

I don't see any veteran QB getting released that could come to Dallas and learn the play book to the point it would show Brandon Weeden the door.

Weeden's going to be the back-up.

If the team can find a better #3 on the waiver wire than what we currently have, go for it.

But that would be for 2016 and beyond, not this season.

 

[Picksix]

That is because we have probably one of the more useless QB coaches in the league.

Perhaps. Or maybe these QB's just aren't that good.

 

[Bluefin]

That is because we have probably one of the more useless QB coaches in the league.

Jason Garrett and Scott Linehan have a useless QB coach?

Would they be good with that?

How about Tony Romo?

Wade Wilson isn't in the news a lot, it's usually to mention his diabetes when he is. Babe Laufenberg said a week ago that a QB could not find a better coaching trio than Garrett, Linehan and Wilson.

I'm not saying Wilson is great, average or horrific.

I do trust Garrett to have a solid QB coach, though.

Garrett inherited Wilson as a member of the staff, so he's had plenty of time by now to make an upgrade to someone he prefers better.

 

[Sinister]

Hey, I liked that kid from Minnesota... Um Heincke...

The problem with Vaughn was that he looks uncomfortable, he isn't sliding away from pressure and he is throwing into double coverage because he already made his decision before reading the defense. He is not ready to play QB for any team this year.

Showers is inaccurate, wild, raw. He is not ready to play QB for any team this year.

Neither of these two deserve to be on the team this year. I am not saying that they don't have potential, they just are not good enough to be on an NFL roster. Practice squad OK. NFL roster no.

If the Cowboys cut either of these two players (or both) I will not lose any sleep at all over it.

 

[Alexander]

Jason Garrett and Scott Linehan have a useless QB coach?

Would they be good with that?

How about Tony Romo?

Wade Wilson isn't in the news a lot, it's usually to mention his diabetes when he is. Babe Laufenberg said a week ago that a QB could not find a better coaching trio than Garrett, Linehan and Wilson.

I'm not saying Wilson is great, average or horrific.

I do trust Garrett to have a solid QB coach, though.

Why? He thought Brad Johnson was a great backup when he ran the offense.

Garrett inherited Wilson as a member of the staff, so he's had plenty of time by now to make an upgrade to someone he prefers better.

Garrett and Linehan do a lot of what another QB coach would do.

Wade Wilson is here because he is practically a lifer working for Jerry Jones.

If he were fired tomorrow, no team would fall over themselves to acquire his services to develop a quarterback.

 

[Alexander]

Perhaps. Or maybe these QB's just aren't that good.

It is a bad syndrome. Aside from when Parcells was here, Wade Wilson has been Jerry Jones' QB coach.

Jones does not know what makes a good QB. And Wilson could not develop one if his life depended on it.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Weeden is going to be the backup. Vaughn or showers is going to the practice squad.. No big deal..

 

[Sinister]

It is a bad syndrome. Aside from when Parcells was here, Wade Wilson has been Jerry Jones' QB coach.

Jones does not know what makes a good QB. And Wilson could not develop one if his life depended on it.

I have to agree...

I haven't seen any progression from any QB under Wilson's watch...

If Vaughn has taken a step back (and it looks like he has) then is it that he is not working hard enough or is the coaching not good enough.

Weeden has said that he has learned more than at any other time in his career, but that has not transferred to on-field performance.

At what point do we start laying the blame at the coaches feet for not developing these guys?

 

[Bluefin]

Garrett and Linehan do a lot of what another QB coach would do.

Then why isn't Scott Linehan doubling as the QB coach?

Rod Marinelli didn't stop coaching the DL when he was promoted to defensive coordinator.

And wouldn't their experience as former QBs and offensive coaches make them very demanding of that position coach?

Wade Wilson is here because he is practically a lifer working for Jerry Jones.

If he were fired tomorrow, no team would fall over themselves to acquire his services to develop a quarterback.

But Wilson would get another job?

Or would he go to work for one of Jerry's other businesses?

Jerry is certainly loyal to his guys, but Wilson wouldn't be here if Jason Garrett wanted someone else who came available.

Jerry pushed Bill Callahan into the play calling role against Garrett's wishes in 2013 and it became a difficult situation.

I see no reason to believe Wilson is still here because of Jerry's unsubstantiated feelings for the coach.

If Garrett didn't want Wilson, he'd be somewhere else.

That doesn't mean Wilson is a great QB coach, but it says he's doing something right in order to keep the job, IMO.

The head coach and offensive coordinator are both former QBs, I expect they set a very high standard for the QB coach to meet.

 

[dallasdave]

Romo isn't exactly mobile, either, but Vaughan might as well have cinder blocks for cleats.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I was at the game last night. He's terrible. Wide open guys, easy check downs, all missed.

Time to end the experiment.

Regrettably, I agree.

Cut him and see if he makes it through waivers. He is definitely a PS guy.

 

[dallasdave]

I was at the game last night. He's terrible. Wide open guys, easy check downs, all missed.

Time to end the experiment.

Yes the monster is dead !!!

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Looks like he has regressed due to his bad prep, or no prep, during the off season. What little positives he showed the Cowboys last year is worst now.

This.

Starting QBs can risk playing golf and dating supermodels in their offseason. Vaughn had no excuse for not throwing during their break.

 

[dallasdave]

Showers only had 4 pass attempts so I think they're going to try and pass him through waivers to the practice squad.

Vaughan played with the starting line and guys who will make the 53 on the outside and couldn't do jack **** before the half and after it. He's brutal.

I can't see Vaughan starting in the arena league !!!!

 

[KJJ]

That is because we have probably one of the more useless QB coaches in the league.

It's not the QB coach or these QB's would pan out elsewhere. The Cowboys certainly don't think Wilson is the problem or he wouldn't have a job coaching these QB's. These QB's get good coaching when you consider Garrett was a former QB who coached QB's and Linehan has coached QB's. The problem with these QB's is they're longshots. Vaughn was an undrafted project who I said last summer wouldn't pan out I wasn't impressed with him last preseason. The Cowboys keep rolling the dice on longshots hoping they'll strike gold again like they did with Romo. I'm a believer if you're going to find a solid backup you have to look for a QB who has the potential to be a pretty good starting QB.

The Cowboys need to invest at least a second or third round pick on a solid prospect who has a good chance to develop into a solid backup and maybe even a solid starter someday. Eventually Romo is going to decline and if the Cowboys aren't prepared with a solid backup who can step in and possibly develop into his replacement they're going to end up stuck suffering through some lean years like they did when Aikman had to be released.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

At least Showers is paying the price to try to contribute on special teams.

I would like to say we could do better, but our backup QB situation is like a lot of teams.

For an UDFA Flowers isn't a bad project by any means. Vaughn isn't progressing but I don't think Flowers deserves more than the practice squad at this point either.