Escobar pick really only makes sense if

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Esco was, and still is, a good pick.

That Redheaded suck bag just doesn't know how to get him the dang football.

People keep clamoring for Warford, but what team would spend a first and second round pick on the interior of the OL? Thats dumb to me.

I give the war room a pass on Warford for this very reason; though this team would've benefited much greater from Warford, to justify a C/G in the first two rounds isn't very entertaining. Which makes it even stranger that they would revert to picking a TE in the 2nd? Obviously PR wasn't a concern and to justify not picking the G bc he wasn't on the team's draft board speaks more to our scouting, etc. not the player. Like previous posters; a consolation prize for missing on Eifert? Overall, a good draft even with the TE pick.
 

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I give the war room a pass on Warford for this very reason; though this team would've benefited much greater from Warford, to justify a C/G in the first two rounds isn't very entertaining.

How can you not justify using your first two picks to help keep your most paid player healthy?
 

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How can you not justify using your first two picks to help keep your most paid player healthy?

Oh no no no, quite the opposite. If anything I would over allocate resources to the line and would've been very happy with the Warford pick. I was speaking moreso why Jones didn't feel the need to double down seeing as they just picked Fred in a trade down over what was @ the time considered a blue chip player in Floyd. True believer in winning in the trenches, esp OL considering the league's leanings towards more points, etc. I would go Tackle high in this draft if the opp presented itself and pick D the rest of the way. No draft guru by any means and believe we should be aggressive in stacking the D while solidifying the OL however necessary (realistic realm, etc.)
 

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In my mind about the only way that the Escobar pick makes sense is if Jason Witten's days (and cap hit) are numbered and we were looking for his replacement.


2014 would be the year to take a TE early, Cowboys Drafts never seem to consider the positional strength of the next Draft....which makes the GMs selections even more obscure.
 

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2014 would be the year to take a TE early, Cowboys Drafts never seem to consider the positional strength of the next Draft....which makes the GMs selections even more obscure.

Reed (4th) going off in WAS doesn't make me like the pick any more....
 

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Escobar was Garrett's consolation prize for not getting to take Eifert in the 1st(imagine the yelling on here if we had spent a 1st on a TE and didn't use him)


Which hopefully is part of the reason McClay is now in charge of setting up the board

I believe this to be true. During the first round, you could see that Garrett was unhappy about trading back. He looked pretty steamed when that decision was made. Taking it further, I doubt he was looking for a defensive player in that spot. It's a bit frustrating to see us keep picking TEs high when we have a HOFer there and do not use our 2nd as we say we will. If we went pure BPA and tossed need out completely. Eifert could have made sense there. I for one an glad that we base our picks partially on need and did not pick Eifert. I would have flipped out. Heck, I flipped out when we took Escobar and still consider it a luxury pick when there were greater needs.

We would not have picked Warford or any OL there instead. I was screaming for Dline and at the time wanted Bennie Logan. (Not that I'm an expert of any kind, he was the highest rated at the time of the pick, I think).

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Having an ignore list has always fascinated me. I don't even know how to put somebody on an ignore list. And I don't want to know.

People should listen to all views, even if it rubs you the wrong way some times. Make your point. Debate it. Then move on. Easy peasy.

BTW, this is directed to no one in particular.

This makes the assumption that you are dealing with people that are acting in good faith. I look at this as the age of trolls where social conventions have not caught up with technology and the web is flooded with people that entertain themselves by being provocative in anonymity. Schadenfreude is rampant.

Do you skip through commercials? I look at it much the same.
 

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If by legit you mean:

*A 31-year old DE who hasn't looked right in two years.
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Are you including 2013 into that 2 year span because Ware had 19.5 sacks in 2011.

I'm not the biggest D Ware fan but the revisionist history that's going on with the guy.

Is pure stupidity. IMO.
 

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It has sucked for the majority of his ownership of the Dallas cowboys. When he first bought it, the deal between him and JImmy Johnson was jerry does the business, and jimmy does the football......

Well, that changed after a few years.......and jerry decided he wanted to be football guy too......and jimmy just Left.
And we have scene what GM Jerry is all about..........sad really. Business Jerry is awesome......

This is all well documented.......surprised you don't know this.....

Why are Cowboy fans so intent on living in the past.

Things aren't great, but let it go.

That was 20 years ago. :(
 

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Well the guy has serious reading comprehension issues. He skipped half the articles and couldn't even stick to the debate ...was dline a priority at that point of the draft? The answer was obviously yes above TE but some people can't accept facts or follow along. When frustrated spinning happens

Didn't marinelli and kiffin say they could work with what they had?

Hence passing on Floyd.

Post season GM's Gotta go with what the coaches wanted then and now.
 

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Why are Cowboy fans so intent on living in the past.

Things aren't great, but let it go.

That was 20 years ago. :(



It's all we got. Two freakin decades of nothing.....

We all that romo was going to change that ........ And it hasn't happened. And I'm pretty sure that window is just about shut....... I dont blame romo....yes, he has a little to do with it.....but, romo can play....

No. The evidence is clear. We all know it and see it.

And, this is why we live in the past......because we know its nit going to change......how can we just "let it go". ??
 

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Because youre making assumptions about someone you dont even know. That is no way to go through life.
C'mon, youre better than that.



Gonna go ahead and put you on ignore anyway though. There are many like you on that list...

So tell me, TT, how is it your "clearly don't watch football" statement is not making the same assumptions?
 

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So tell me, TT, how is it your "clearly don't watch football" statement is not making the same assumptions?

Im sorry, I just dont have time to define every word you dont understand and explain how to use them.

There is good news. Here is a link to a online dictionary that you wont even have to pay for.
http://www.merriam-webster.com

Its not that I dont like you, its just that Id rather spend my leisure time doing other things.
 

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In fairness, our defensive line's depth was at best unproven or nonexistant if we stayed totally healthy all year long. If we had stayed healthy all year, it is at least plausible that we would have had a pretty decent defensive line. But we didn't. If a worm had a machine gun .......birds wouldn't try to eat them.

We agree here. I'm not trying to beat the proverbial dead horse. My only point was Dline depth was discussed and considered an issue. It doesn't mean we didn't have more issues. Just that they weren't TE. I was going strictly on it.
 

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Are you including 2013 into that 2 year span because Ware had 19.5 sacks in 2011.

I'm not the biggest D Ware fan but the revisionist history that's going on with the guy.

Is pure stupidity. IMO.

I guess I was wrong. It had only been one year at the time (now it's been two). But I don't think it changes my point that much. I think TTexasTT's eyes came across Ware and he stopped reading the entire post. If he wouldn't have freaked out instantly, he would've seen the validity of my post.

*Anyone with any kind of business sense is going to be kind of weary when a guy who is 31 (at the start of the 2013 season) is coming off the worst year of his career. In the majority of cases, career lows at 31 are not a good sign. And probability prevailed because Ware had year another career low this season.

*The rest of what I said rings true. Ratliff was 32 at the beginning of the season. He hadn't played at a Pro Bowl level in years. He'd been injured for the past few years. He was starting the season on the IR. Many people predicted he wouldn't even come back after season 6 when the staff said he would. They were right. He also physically threatened the owner of the team.

*Hatcher was 31. He was a career backup up until last year. He did play well in the final year of Dallas being in the 3-4. But he was far from an elite player in the NFL. And since we're on the topic of inaccurate statements, TTexasTT said our D-line had 4 Pro Bowlers. That's inaccurate because Hatcher has never been a Pro Bowler. Oh, he was also in a contract year.

*Spencer was also in his second straight contract year. Most people didn't see resigning him. He was injured to begin the season. He was coming off a great season though, but it was the first excellent of his career.

*Not to mention, all these guys were switching to a 4-3, a scheme they never played in his pro career. And the only depth behind them was Tyrone Crawford, an unproven guy in his second year.
 

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Esco was, and still is, a good pick.

That Redheaded suck bag just doesn't know how to get him the dang football.

People keep clamoring for Warford, but what team would spend a first and second round pick on the interior of the OL? Thats dumb to me.

A smart team that wanted to fix the oline.
 

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Im sorry, I just dont have time to define every word you dont understand and explain how to use them.

There is good news. Here is a link to a online dictionary that you wont even have to pay for.
http://www.merriam-webster.com

Its not that I dont like you, its just that Id rather spend my leisure time doing other things.

So pretty much you assumed something about him a yet lectured him doing the same about someone else.

Yea, I got it.
 
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