ESPN's 5 most deadly hitters

[Bob Sacamano]

Actually I did disprove their stat by showing how Taylor more than likely got blamed for AT LEAST one of the TDs attributed to him(I cant think of any more since I dont memorize every TD given up by Taylor).

and 1 minus 13 equals...?

 

[theogt]

Actually I did disprove their stat by showing how Taylor more than likely got blamed for AT LEAST one of the TDs attributed to him(I cant think of any more since I dont memorize every TD given up by Taylor).

Which TD did you prove he shouldn't have been blamed for?

 

[yazzmode621]

I certainly don't want you to cut him. Lord no...

As for why his deficiencies are now surfacing, a possible reason was given earlier in the thread: good corner play by his colleagues. When that disappears, his deficiencies are magnified.

That makes no sense. Good corner play didn't help him shut down Antonio Gates. Good corner play didn't help him go one on one with Randy Moss and win. Bad front seven play exposes players in coverage but good corner play doesnt make a bad coverage safety all of a sudden a good coverage safety.

Taylor was drafted as a FS. He was a FS in college, a great one too. Scouting reports state that at times it seems as if he is a third corner in the game.

It seems like everyone can see Taylor's ability as an above average coverage safety except for Cowboys fans. I wonder why.

 

[yazzmode621]

Which TD did you prove he shouldn't have been blamed for?

Glenn TD first game.

 

[apickmans]

I certainly don't want you to cut him. Lord no...

As for why his deficiencies are now surfacing, a possible reason was given earlier in the thread: good corner play by his colleagues. When that disappears, his deficiencies are magnified.

Could be a possibility. Good Safety play on the other side would help too. I know you guys dont think its a big deal, but bringing Smooty back should help out a lot with our depth and CB play.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

let's see, an unbiased source who is recognized by the NFL, or a Commander poster

who should I believe?

 

[theogt]

Glenn TD first game.

And how was that proven incorrectly attributed?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

It seems like everyone can see Taylor's ability as an above average coverage safety except for Cowboys fans. I wonder why.

who is everyone? giving up 13 TDs isn't above average

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Could be a possibility. Good Safety play on the other side would help too. I know you guys dont think its a big deal, but bringing Smooty back should help out a lot with our depth and CB play.

you're right, I don't see how a feast or famine player who gets burned nearly as much as Taylor could help him play better

 

[apickmans]

Taylor's '06 season was just a culmination of his career thus far, a player who doesn't play w/ his head and gets burnt an inordinate amount of times

noone is saying Taylor isn't a huge hitter

I wouldnt go that far. I just think it he had a bad season. Athletes in every major sport can them. Now if he has another season just like the one he had, well lets just hope that doesnt happen. Im sure you guys wouldnt mind.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I wouldnt go that far. I just think it he had a bad season. Athletes in every major sport can them. Now if he has another season just like the one he had, well lets just hope that doesnt happen. Im sure you guys wouldnt mind.

dude, please don't tell me that Taylor is a smart player

recognition has always been a problem for him, and it was heightened when they needed him to step up because the pass-rush bogged down horribly

 

[theogt]

That makes no sense. Good corner play didn't help him shut down Antonio Gates. Good corner play didn't help him go one on one with Randy Moss and win. Bad front seven play exposes players in coverage but good corner play doesnt make a bad coverage safety all of a sudden a good coverage safety.

Taylor was drafted as a FS. He was a FS in college, a great one too. Scouting reports state that at times it seems as if he is a third corner in the game.

It seems like everyone can see Taylor's ability as an above average coverage safety except for Cowboys fans. I wonder why.

Dude, all we're doing is throwing facts at you. You can homer out all you like, but anywhere other than Extreme Skins, people are just going to laugh at you.

 

[theebs]

here I rendered the stinking play so we can all watch it. it is a low quality wmv. I didnt feel like waiting for a better render sorry.

http://www.4shared.com/file/14298248/8540d435/glenn_taylor_coverage.html

anyway you will see on that play that Dallas is in a heavy close singleback set. Extra lineman on the field and only two wr running routes. there is no slot wr in that formation.

Also it looks to me that washington is in some sort of hybrid nickel with only two linebackers and springs, rumph, wright, rogers and taylor in the backfield, when glenn goes in motion springs points to taylor, then taylor gets beat. and rodgers is dreadfully out of position.

WItten didnt run a route, he stayed into block and I dont even see arch on the field.

 

[apickmans]

dude, please don't tell me that Taylor is a smart player

recognition has always been a problem for him, and it was heightened when they needed him to step up because the pass-rush bogged down horribly

I never said he was smart.

 

[apickmans]

you're right, I don't see how a feast or famine player who gets burned nearly as much as Taylor could help him play better

Who would you rather have as your nickel back....Smoot or Kenny Wright?

 

[yazzmode621]

and 1 minus 13 equals...?

I dont go by what STATS say as the definite truth. KC Joyner doesnt agree with Taylor's TD total for the '04 and '05 seasons. He also called Taylor's stats 'phenomenal for a rookie FS.' You want to use whatever source is to your advantage be my guest. Doesn't make you right though.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Who would you rather have as your nickel back....Smoot or Kenny Wright?

neither, both are burnt toast

 

[apickmans]

dude, please don't tell me that Taylor is a smart player

recognition has always been a problem for him, and it was heightened when they needed him to step up because the pass-rush bogged down horribly

Easier said than done.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I dont go by what STATS say as the definite truth. KC Joyner doesnt agree with Taylor's TD total for the '04 and '05 seasons. He also called Taylor's stats 'phenomenal for a rookie FS.' You want to use whatever source is to your advantage be my guest. Doesn't make you right though.

can I see a link to any of this?

TDs given up are the most accurate gauge of a secondary player's play

 

[The30YardSlant]

Bottom line: Both Roy Williams and Sean Taylor are below average in coverage

The difference: Roy has forced/recovered more turnovers in the last 5 years than ANY defensive player in the NFL

And he isnt a headcase off the field