Felix Jones Highlight Video

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I think Rice or Kevin Smith would be a better fit in the running game over Felix (not to mention that they can be had after the first round), but I wouldn't be depressed if Jones was drafted. It has been a very long time since we've had a return man that concerned the opposition.
 

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Anyone else notice on the highlight vid that in nearly every highlight, he was running to the sidelines? :rolleyes:

I didn't see the guy pull one move in 7 minutes...He appears to be everything that's been feared about him...Overrated.
 

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Felix Jones is one of the few players who I would genuinely be upset about drafting.
 

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theogt;1995611 said:
The problem with "homerun threats" is that they need X amount of carries before they hit a homerun. So, in the meantime you're stuck with a 3.5 YPC when Barber isn't in the game. Why force that on yourself? Get the guy that CAN carry the load if you need him, and who will not be a drop off when Barber isn't in the game.

I agree. Tyson is in theory a home run threat because of his speed. How often does he break one. Ok, lets look at JJ. How often does his break one? Last yr I think our longest run can from Barber. RR break enough long runs that I am not worries. Emmitt isn't a burner either but he broke enough long runs in his career. I think we agree we are pretty happy with Emmitt.

Same issue with WR. Ability to catch the ball and adjust to passes comes #1. Speed is great but if you can't catch....you can't play the position.
 
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I'm not impressed with Felix Jones, I'd rather draft Mendenhall if that's the case... He's got a nice 2nd gear and has wiggle and power.
 

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JerryFan;1995485 said:
You don't think Mendenhall is a receiver or has any wiggle? Have you watched him play?

Actually seen him play. No. TV a little. Highlights and game film yes. He has more wiggle than Charles. By far. But most of these guys with that much speed run to and thru holes. Not a knock on him but compared to Chris, Johnson, Jones and some others...even Rice...these guys didn't show a lot of wiggle. McFadden either.

Mendenhall is a complete back. He is a franchise back. And he will go 1,2 or 3 in this draft which is where he belongs. I think he will do ok to better in the NFL. He can catch the ball but is no where the receiver that Stewart is. Just the way he was used. He can catch the ball and catch it well downfield as well. Just not the receiver that some others are or IMO will be.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;1995695 said:
I'm not impressed with Felix Jones, I'd rather draft Mendenhall if that's the case... He's got a nice 2nd gear and has wiggle and power.

See but we don't need the power, we have MBIII.. what we need is a nice change of pace back, i think Jones would fit that perfect..
 

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BigDave95;1995494 said:
This is one of those things that somebody said once and everyone just assumed it was true.

Felix Jones never returned punts at Arkansas. And that was a HUGE weakness for the Hogs. Most of the times they put Peyton Hillis back there just to fair catch it (kind of like Crayton). Whenever they tried to put a real returner back there, it turned disastrous. Reggie Fish's muff at the 1 yard line cost the Razorbacks the SEC championship and helped Florida win a national title.

They tried both Felix and McFadden at punt returner several times in spring practice and neither really did that well. Now it is true that Felix was an AMAZING kick returner. A two time All American at KR. But he never returned punts.

You're right. I never saw him return punts and I just assumed he could translate that Hestersque kick returning into a punt returner. So you're right. I guess he just can't catch the ball back there which surprises me.

My bad. Doesn't take anything away from the rest of what I said.
 

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theogt;1995509 said:
How many tough runs between the tackles were in that clip? I saw maybe two. I'm not saying he couldn't be an every down back, but it's a pretty big risk, because he never had to do those things in college. His game is pure speed -- either break it to the outside or find a gaping hole and burst through it. Those are not options in the NFL.

I don't see him as a between the tackles guy as far as pounding it in there play after play. Not our offense anyway. He is the perfect compliment to MBIII. And there is nothing to say he can't run it thru the line more than 2-3 times a game. He will get bigger as long as he doesn't loose speed.
 

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cwbyfan72;1995546 said:
honestly, most of this reel was pure speed around the corner. Its easy to outrun defenders with his speed along the sideline. But i saw nothing to tell me he can hit the line with authority, break a LB's tackle, or see his way through the line.

Anyone can see that. That's not the kind of runner he is. Look at his weight. Anyone picking him is not banking on a starting RB type back.

I like Jones. A lot obviously but he's not a replacement for MBIII. In fact I'd rather have Chris Johnson. But I don't see a way you could not appreciate the guy's game.

He does need to learn to cutback a little more and he obviously has the skills to do that. He relies on his speed a little too much and he will NOT be able to run by EVERYONE in a NFL game.
 

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theogt;1995509 said:
How many tough runs between the tackles were in that clip? I saw maybe two. I'm not saying he couldn't be an every down back, but it's a pretty big risk, because he never had to do those things in college. His game is pure speed -- either break it to the outside or find a gaping hole and burst through it. Those are not options in the NFL.


?? No Ray Rice comment? :laugh2:
 

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from looking at the highlights, it seems jones doesnt have the quick burst like a chris johnson and jar jar charles and he seems to take a tick longer to get up to speed. he does have outstanding top speed though. jones would be a better 200m or 400 sprinter than 100m sprinter.
 

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FCBarca;1995636 said:
Anyone else notice on the highlight vid that in nearly every highlight, he was running to the sidelines? :rolleyes:

I didn't see the guy pull one move in 7 minutes...He appears to be everything that's been feared about him...Overrated.

I didn't look at the highlights since I've seen most of the Arkansas' games the past few years. But I guess from the comments I've seen, they don't show that Jones has excellent cutting ability.

That was one of the main differences I saw in his play and McFadden's. McFadden was more one-cut and go or straight-ahead running, and hardly ever had to display moves. Jones did a lot more quick-cutting to get to the open field.

That being said, I'm not in favor of Dallas taking him in the first round because I'm not sure that he's better than Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Tashard Choice, etc.

Jones' has plenty of speed and shiftiness, but I haven't seen enough evidence of inside running ability.
 

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cwbyfan72;1995299 said:
i dont know guys.....this guy doesnt seem more than a kick returner to me. No moves, all speed. Tyson Thompsonish.... Rather have Rice.

maybe you should rewatch the video.... he made the runs happen to the outside, and when he went inside was quite elusive, great field vision he has.

A couple of those runs in the latter half of the video, watch when he runs thru the middle and is headed for a few opponent defenders, he shifts his feet effortlessly and never lost a step in doing so.

Having said that, remember this guy has not had the opportunity to show much more because of McFadden but isn't that what we need... a guy that can work with our starter MBIII.
 

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RW Hitman;1995922 said:
maybe you should rewatch the video.... he made the runs happen to the outside, and when he went inside was quite elusive, great field vision he has.

A couple of those runs in the latter half of the video, watch when he runs thru the middle and is headed for a few opponent defenders, he shifts his feet effortlessly and never lost a step in doing so.

Having said that, remember this guy has not had the opportunity to show much more because of McFadden but isn't that what we need... a guy that can work with our starter MBIII.

I like the idea of a quick cutback runner...I'd also hope they could out do 8 reps ;)
 

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cwbyfan72;1995299 said:
i dont know guys.....this guy doesnt seem more than a kick returner to me. No moves, all speed. Tyson Thompsonish.... Rather have Rice.

You hvae Julius Jones in your SIG as WEAPONS OF MASS PRODUCTION?
Crayotn ALSO?
I think you should swithc it to Romo/Witten/T.O./Ware if your'e gonna pick 4 players
 

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jobberone;1995696 said:
Actually seen him play. No. TV a little. Highlights and game film yes. He has more wiggle than Charles. By far. But most of these guys with that much speed run to and thru holes. Not a knock on him but compared to Chris, Johnson, Jones and some others...even Rice...these guys didn't show a lot of wiggle. McFadden either.

Mendenhall is a complete back. He is a franchise back. And he will go 1,2 or 3 in this draft which is where he belongs. I think he will do ok to better in the NFL. He can catch the ball but is no where the receiver that Stewart is. Just the way he was used. He can catch the ball and catch it well downfield as well. Just not the receiver that some others are or IMO will be.


I'd be willing to bet 'Shard has every bit as good of hands as Stewart. I've watched him being an Illinois fan and have nothing bad to say about him other then his blocking. You really think he will get 1,2 or 3 in the draft? I don't, because I don't think 1, 2 or 3 will go RB.

And to the other person who said we don't need power we need speed. 'Shard has it all my friend. Power and speed.
 

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jobberone;1995696 said:
Actually seen him play. No. TV a little. Highlights and game film yes. He has more wiggle than Charles. By far. But most of these guys with that much speed run to and thru holes. Not a knock on him but compared to Chris, Johnson, Jones and some others...even Rice...these guys didn't show a lot of wiggle. McFadden either.

Mendenhall is a complete back. He is a franchise back. And he will go 1,2 or 3 in this draft which is where he belongs. I think he will do ok to better in the NFL. He can catch the ball but is no where the receiver that Stewart is. Just the way he was used. He can catch the ball and catch it well downfield as well. Just not the receiver that some others are or IMO will be.
I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly or not, but are you saying Rice does have wiggle?
 

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ThatsmyQB;1995939 said:
You hvae Julius Jones in your SIG as WEAPONS OF MASS PRODUCTION?
Crayotn ALSO?
I think you should swithc it to Romo/Witten/T.O./Ware if your'e gonna pick 4 players

i've had that sig since 06. sorry, i'll get to updating...
 
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