Scotman
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I'll wade in. What the heck.
I'll start off by saying I haven't been a fan of Zimmer's. I don't hate him, but I don't fawn after him either. Also, I have an extensive background in leadership, management and adminsitration. I'll finish my doctorate in the field soon (dissertation ).
Mike, I get your point, flawed as it is. I don't think anyone believes that the defensive architect behind our new-look defense is Zimmer. Parcells is. But to equate Zimmer with a mid-level manager based on your experience isn't going to work. Not all management systems work in the manner you espouse.
For example, I had the opportunity this year to hire a guy to be my right hand. He had little experience in the areas that I needed him for. But, I knew he was smart and a hard worker. I knew the other hundred or so people under him would follow him. I told him my vision and goals. It was his job to get the job done. Not mine. If I was going to do it myself, I wouldn't have needed him.
At that point, he went to work learning and preparing. He has surpassed my expectations to this point. And that is credit to him, not me. If I were to take any credit, it would be for seeing the potential that lied in this one employee. But when that person realizes his/her potential, they should get the credit. Pretty simple in my book.
It is not nearly as easy to find someone capable of doing what Zimmer is doing as you say. Read Elbert Hubbard's A Message to Garcia. You can find it easily on the internet. Just a few pages long.
Mike, I don't post a lot but I believe from reading your posts you're an intelligent and thoughtful poster. But we've got two distinct things going on here. On one hand, you're arguing that Zimmer isn't the designer of the defense. You have done so strongly enough that it doesn't appear you're giving Zimmer his due. Second, there are those that are arguing that you don't create anything worth while in the NFL without teamwork. Not just on the field, but off. And they are arguing that you have to give credit all around.
For me, I give credit to the whole shooting match. From JJ on down to Rowdy. And here's to hoping that the defense keeps improving!
I'll start off by saying I haven't been a fan of Zimmer's. I don't hate him, but I don't fawn after him either. Also, I have an extensive background in leadership, management and adminsitration. I'll finish my doctorate in the field soon (dissertation ).
Mike, I get your point, flawed as it is. I don't think anyone believes that the defensive architect behind our new-look defense is Zimmer. Parcells is. But to equate Zimmer with a mid-level manager based on your experience isn't going to work. Not all management systems work in the manner you espouse.
For example, I had the opportunity this year to hire a guy to be my right hand. He had little experience in the areas that I needed him for. But, I knew he was smart and a hard worker. I knew the other hundred or so people under him would follow him. I told him my vision and goals. It was his job to get the job done. Not mine. If I was going to do it myself, I wouldn't have needed him.
At that point, he went to work learning and preparing. He has surpassed my expectations to this point. And that is credit to him, not me. If I were to take any credit, it would be for seeing the potential that lied in this one employee. But when that person realizes his/her potential, they should get the credit. Pretty simple in my book.
It is not nearly as easy to find someone capable of doing what Zimmer is doing as you say. Read Elbert Hubbard's A Message to Garcia. You can find it easily on the internet. Just a few pages long.
Mike, I don't post a lot but I believe from reading your posts you're an intelligent and thoughtful poster. But we've got two distinct things going on here. On one hand, you're arguing that Zimmer isn't the designer of the defense. You have done so strongly enough that it doesn't appear you're giving Zimmer his due. Second, there are those that are arguing that you don't create anything worth while in the NFL without teamwork. Not just on the field, but off. And they are arguing that you have to give credit all around.
For me, I give credit to the whole shooting match. From JJ on down to Rowdy. And here's to hoping that the defense keeps improving!