forget every thread you ever read about these two...Roy v Ed Reed

[locked&loaded]

ya man, that emmitt smith guy will never amount to anything.

ya i hear you man. free safety and strong safety is soooo differnt. total oppasite ends of the spectrum. one you play about 20 yards back and one you play about 20 yards back. in one your the last line of defense in the other your the last line of defense. one your expected to cover and the other your expected to cover, one your expected to come up and make tackles and the others you come up and make tackles.

its rediculous there so different, how can no one see this?????????

 

[zrinkill]

ya i hear you man. free safety and strong safety is soooo differnt. total oppasite ends of the spectrum. one you play about 20 yards back and one you play about 20 yards back. in one your the last line of defense in the other your the last line of defense. one your expected to cover and the other your expected to cover, one your expected to come up and make tackles and the others you come up and make tackles.

its rediculous there so different, how can no one see this?????????

Just like Running back and Full back huh?
How about Wide Receiver and Tight end ......



Keep trying

 

[DragonCowboy]

ill remember the posters taht had to make it into a flame war thats all ill remember.

What? are you going to shoot me through the computer?

Seriously, my first post wasn't even directed towards you. You just decided to jump into the argument.

Flame war? We're giving the facts, and you along with others are completely dismissing it.

 

[locked&loaded]

Just like Running back and Full back huh?
How about Wide Receiver and Tight end ......



Keep trying

most of the time a full backs not in, most of the time the tend is used for blocking. most strong safties and free safties are almost interchangable. one is a little faster and ones a little bigger.

 

[locked&loaded]

What? are you going to shoot me through the computer?

Seriously, my first post wasn't even directed towards you. You just decided to jump into the argument.

Flame war? We're giving the facts, and you along with others are completely dismissing it.

ya cuaes i woudl shoot someone over a computer arguemnt. your giving your facts but ignoring anything about them that are contradictory, you hear what you want to hear. this is useless. evidenlty some will never admit roys a liability.

 

[DragonCowboy]

most of the time a full backs not in, most of the time the tend is used for blocking. most strong safties and free safties are almost interchangable. one is a little faster and ones a little bigger.

but it comes back to this.

Is Reed THAT much better than Roy, or is this just your anger coming out?

 

[DragonCowboy]

ya cuaes i woudl shoot someone over a computer arguemnt. your giving your facts but ignoring anything about them that are contradictory, you hear what you want to hear. this is useless. evidenlty some will never admit roys a liability.

How many times do I have to tell you?

1. I never said Roy was better than Reed. He just isn't as bad as you make him out to be.

2. Yes he's a liability, but as you said, so is Ed Reed.

I still don't see how this comes back to:

"Ed Reed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy".

I want to see you justify that, because you completely contradicted yourself (see #2).

 

[zrinkill]

most of the time a full backs not in, most of the time the tend is used for blocking. most strong safeties and free safeties are almost interchangeable. one is a little faster and ones a little bigger.

Huh?????

And Most of the time a Strong Safety is used to help closer to the LOS

And a Free is used to help in Pass D

Yet our Strong Safety has 5 interceptions this year ...... which means for his position he is NOT a liability in Coverage .....

What don't you get?

 

[locked&loaded]

but it comes back to this.

Is Reed THAT much better than Roy, or is this just your anger coming out?

i havent seen as many baltimore games as ive seen cowboys. roy has really regressed from his first year, he missed a few key tackles in the seattle game which stuck in my craw. he doesnt lay as many big hits and most tends have there way wiht him coverage wise. i believe reed is the better safety, a solid tackler and better in coverage. the big hits are nice but they arent needed unless theres a fumble involved. int's are more important than big hits.

 

[locked&loaded]

Huh?????

And Most of the time a Strong Safety is used to help closer to the LOS

And a Free is used to help in Pass D

Yet our Strong Safety has 5 interceptions this year ...... which means for his position he is NOT a liability in Coverage .....

What don't you get?

what dont you get. 8 TDS GIVEN UP THIS YEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. that is 56 points. plus the one he gave up in the seattle game. id like to see how many yards hes given up.

 

[zrinkill]

int's are more important than big hits.

And they have the same amount ..... so once again .......

 

[DragonCowboy]

i havent seen as many baltimore games as ive seen cowboys. roy has really regressed from his first year, he missed a few key tackles in the seattle game which stuck in my craw. he doesnt lay as many big hits and most tends have there way wiht him coverage wise. i believe reed is the better safety, a solid tackler and better in coverage. the big hits are nice but they arent needed unless theres a fumble involved. int's are more important than big hits.

Ok, I can't argue with any of this.

As I told you, it wasn't directed towards you. Read through this thread and you'll easily see who I was referring to.

 

[zrinkill]

what dont you get. 8 TDS GIVEN UP THIS YEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. that is 56 points. plus the one he gave up in the seattle game. id like to see how many yards hes given up.

He did not have 8 this year ..... like has been said many times.

How many has Reed or whatever Free safety you are gonna bring up had?

Point is you can not name a Strong Safety that is as good in coverage as Roy.

 

[DragonCowboy]

what dont you get. 8 TDS GIVEN UP THIS YEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. that is 56 points. plus the one he gave up in the seattle game. id like to see how many yards hes given up.

I believe Adam said how many.

 

[locked&loaded]

And they have the same amount ..... so once again .......

i do believe reed has had more ints in his career than roy has i could be wrong. reed gave up two less touchdowns. and throw in each players playoff games. reed had one more int total, and roy gave up 3 more tds than reed. so once again????

 

[SDogo]

Come on, this team is considering running a 3-3-1-4

He's so bad in coverage we to run a circus defense.

 

[zrinkill]

i do believe reed has had more ints in his career than roy has i could be wrong. reed gave up two less touchdowns. and throw in each players playoff games. reed had one more int total, and roy gave up 3 more tds than reed. so once again????

And Reed is a "Ball Hawking" Free Safety

And Roy is a Run Stopping Strong Safety

And the Difference is 1-1

: Yea Roy Sucks

 

[SDogo]

And Reed is a "Ball Hawking" Free Safety

And Roy is a Run Stopping Strong Safety

And the Difference is 1-1

: Yea Roy Sucks

He is still a DB and still is expected to cover. I agree, their positions are different but you can't ignore the fact that he plays a position where coverage is required.

 

[BigDFan5]

Come on, this team is considering running a 3-3-1-4

He's so bad in coverage we to run a circus defense.

Not one single person connected to the Cowboys have said this. The only person this came from was speculation by a radio host :bang2:

 

[locked&loaded]

And Reed is a "Ball Hawking" Free Safety

And Roy is a Run Stopping Strong Safety

And the Difference is 1-1

: Yea Roy Sucks

putting words in my mouth again. i never said roy sucks i said hes a liability. than you say roys fine with coverage 5 ints, than i say somethign that disproves it and you go roys a run stopping strong safety. i dont get it. who would you pick first knowing what you know today in a draft?