FWST: BLOG: Garrett makes an impression

[Beast_from_East]

I am going to laugh at all of the posters who want him gone when he succeeds wherever he goes next year.

Mark my words. First Sean Payton, then Tony Sparano, now Jason Garrett.

Grass isn't always greener on the other side.

Why cant this work in our favor if we hire Shanny for example???

I am sure there are fans in Denver saying "just watch Shanahan go to another team and start kicking arse"

Grass is not always greener for the other team either.

 

[RainMan]

but the 2008 Cowboys will have little bearing on the 2009 Cowboys either.

Atlanta didn't just magically get better over night. They brought in a coach who actually wanted to be there, acquired one of the best rookie quarterbacks of this generation and ridded itself of at least one troublesome personality in DeAngelo Hall.

It wasn't like the team stunk, started a new season and -- holy cow! -- came from nowhere. Sure, their surge was no less surprising, but they addressed their team in the offseason and came back a completely different unit.

I think the Cowboys' woes can be fixed, too. But I don't think it can be changed by just spending a few months relaxing before returning the same group next season.

Sure, maybe this current group can do well. There's nothing written in stone saying it can't, even if it returns the same group intact. As the old saying goes, even blind squirrels find nuts. But the warning signs are there that we have some fatal flaws that must be addressed in terms of preparation, focus and chemistry. And it's entirely reasonable for anyone to be highly skeptical of this team until and unless some of our deficiencies are addressed.

Can they be addressed by returning everyone? Perhaps. But it's going to take a big change from everyone involved, starting with what's done at mini-camps, the focus, how they practice, what they're practicing, etc. And given our team's recent track record, it's difficult to just assume those things will be fixed. I need to see it to believe it.

 

[Beast_from_East]

And how is it a 50/50 chance? The guy is a young coach who just went through a down year. He will look at what he did wrong, and adjust. He will improve because of this year. Like I said, first Payton, then Sparano. And if he goes, now Garrett.

I see a probability higher than 50% that he will succeed. Just because there are two outcomes, does not mean they are 50/50

Depends on your definition of success is.

What exactly has Payton done the last 2 years in New Orleans that makes him so successful considering they have not even qualified for the playoffs since 05???

I would not hire Payton, so why should I regret that he left???

As for Sporano, what exactly did he do in Miami that he did not do in Dallas last year considering both teams went one-and-done???

Does taking a bottom feeder and making them Wildcard caliber make for a great coach........I dont think so.

Lets just say that if I was hiring a new HC, both Payton and Sporano would be second tier below the Shanahans, Holmgrens, and Cowhers of the world.

 

[RainMan]

Depends on your definition of success is.

What exactly has Payton done the last 2 years in New Orleans that makes him so successful considering they have not even qualified for the playoffs since 05???

I would not hire Payton, so why should I regret that he left???

As for Sporano, what exactly did he do in Miami that he did not do in Dallas last year considering both teams went one-and-done???

Does taking a bottom feeder and making them Wildcard caliber make for a great coach........I dont think so.

Lets just say that if I was hiring a new HC, both Payton and Sporano would be second tier below the Shanahans, Holmgrens, and Cowhers of the world.

Yeah, I got to admit, I don't get the love affair with Payton. I think he's showing to be a classic guy who's a top-shelf coordinator when paired with a head coach that can reel him in at times, but not a guy suited for a head-coaching position himself.

Whenever I watch a Saints' prime-time game, I'm amazed by all the mistakes they make. It's like that game they had against Minnesota; they vastly outplayed them in many ways, but at the end of the day played fundamentally poor football and somehow lost.

And I also think Payton is (or at least he thinks he is) too smart for his own good. His play calling becomes downright goofy at time. Granted, he doesn't have much to work with at the running back position in terms of tailbacks that can actually carry the football.

The jury's still out on Sparano. Taking that Miami team to the playoffs was a great accomplishment. It's unfair, at this point, to just assume what happened to the '04 Cowboys will happen to next year's Dolphins. With that said, though, he certainly has to show me he can do it again but I start rueing the day we let him leave.

 

[Beast_from_East]

he probably wants to go some place where he can run an offense not try to get 1 guy the ball as a gameplan every week. who would you rather keep Garrett or Owens?

Why dont we ask the Ravens or Steelers......

Their players were laughing at Tecmo's offense and calling out our plays before the snap all while double-covering TO the whole dam game.

Who were they more afraid of????

 

[Rampage]

Why dont we ask the Ravens or Steelers......

Their players were laughing at Tecmo's offense and calling out our plays before the snap all while double-covering TO the whole dam game.

Who were they more afraid of????

neither. those teams don't fear diva wrs with bad hands or tecmo OC's.

 

[Beast_from_East]

neither. those teams don't fear diva wrs with bad hands or tecmo OC's.

 

[Rampage]

man they pissed me off this season. especiallt the fatboys who didn't do there job just like last year.

 

[Jay]

Yeah, I got to admit, I don't get the love affair with Payton. I think he's showing to be a classic guy who's a top-shelf coordinator when paired with a head coach that can reel him in at times, but not a guy suited for a head-coaching position himself.

Whenever I watch a Saints' prime-time game, I'm amazed by all the mistakes they make. It's like that game they had against Minnesota; they vastly outplayed them in many ways, but at the end of the day played fundamentally poor football and somehow lost.

And I also think Payton is (or at least he thinks he is) too smart for his own good. His play calling becomes downright goofy at time. Granted, he doesn't have much to work with at the running back position in terms of tailbacks that can actually carry the football.

The jury's still out on Sparano. Taking that Miami team to the playoffs was a great accomplishment. It's unfair, at this point, to just assume what happened to the '04 Cowboys will happen to next year's Dolphins. With that said, though, he certainly has to show me he can do it again but I start rueing the day we let him leave.

Sparano also played the NFC and AFC West divisions this year. Does it get any easier than that?

 

[Arch Stanton]

No way...

Yes, way....

 

[satam55]

I would rather fire Wade and promote Garrett than see Garrett leave for another team.

I 100% AGREE!

 

[Use Your Illusion]

Sparano also played the NFC and AFC West divisions this year. Does it get any easier than that?

For a team that went 1-15 the season before, NOTHING is easy. That was a hell of a coaching job by Sparano.

All these people wanting Garrett out of here are off their rockers. if it means Wade gets fired, then I'm all for it. But it won't, and we'll end up much worse off than we are now.

You don't realize what you have until it's gone. Well, you'll realize it when fricking Wade Wilson or Ray Sherman are calling plays for us next year. Continuity! :bang2:

 

[Juke99]

I am going to laugh at all of the posters who want him gone when he succeeds wherever he goes next year.

Mark my words. First Sean Payton, then Tony Sparano, now Jason Garrett.

Grass isn't always greener on the other side.

it wouldn't surprise me if he succeeded elsewhere.

A different skill set is required for a head coach than a coordinator.

And if Jerry is making the decision to let him go, chances are, it's a bad decision.

 

[SultanOfSix]

And if Jerry is making the decision to let him go, chances are, it's a bad decision.

So, if Jerry makes the decision to keep him, is it a bad one too? Yes, Jerry has made some really bad decisions in the past. This isn't the same Jerry.

 

[casmith07]

I'm of the belief that we need to promote Jason Garrett to head coach (I know I was screaming fire JG a few weeks ago). Unfortunately, while Wade Phillips is a great defensive coordinator, it won't work if he's "demoted." He should do the honorable thing and resign, and force Jerry's hand in promoting Jason Garrett to head coach. This will hopefully keep other coaches here like the Wide Receivers' coach Ray Sherman, who could possibly step up to offensive coordinator to help Jason Garrett learn how to manage a game and utilize the run more effectively. With Wade gone, Brian Stewart can go with him, and Garrett can bring in Dom Capers to coach our defense.

Sound like a good scenario?

 

[MONT17]

Garrett is Head Coach material... ppl forget what he is working with in Dallas! an oline that cant block, a QB with no arm, RBs injured and WRs who cant run routes and or catch.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Garrett is Head Coach material... ppl forget what he is working with in Dallas! an oline that cant block, a QB with no arm, RBs injured and WRs who cant run routes and or catch.

Oh so now Romo has no arm? This has been debunked so often its not even funny. I sat not 50 yards from him in SA during TC and I can personally attest you are wrong. He throws ropes on deep outs.

 

[BC27]

If Garrett leaves this could very bad for Romo's development in the short term and could come back to haunt the Cowboys in the long term, (like the Broncos getting in to the Super Bowl again, before the Cowboys)

 

[Juke99]

So, if Jerry makes the decision to keep him, is it a bad one too? Yes, Jerry has made some really bad decisions in the past. This isn't the same Jerry.

???

And yep, for me, whatever Jerry decides to do...or not do...will give me cause for concern.

You're entitled to believe what you will...as I am entitled to believe what I will.

The problems with this franchise, IMO, being and end with Jerry Jones.

 

[Neonnoodle]

Because an offseason is TREMENDOUSLY different at making changes than during the season.

You cant change what you are during a season. What you have implemented in mini camps, training camps, and preseason is what you are. But when you have an offseason to look at what you did well, and what you did not do well, you have several more options to improve.

I have no doubt that Garrett is making necessary changes after this disaster of a season.

So I guess the Cowboys had no screens in their offense? No TO in motion plays? I saw them happen in 1 or 2 games...so I know they were in the playbook? So why never call them? Fact is...they did have those plays in the playbook...but Garrett was just so stupid to even run them...The defense is calling out their plays on the field..And Garrett still doesnt adjust..I mean every fan in the nation knew Dallas had to put TO in motion and throw a screen ON OCCASION to keep the D honest.

But no...Lets just run a streak every play. So I guess streaks were all that was in the playbook? Please. Garrett never adjusted, all good coordinators can. And they prepare for it before a game. So I guess Garrett never knew this..Wow that's great. So Garrett needs several years to learn the most basic things in football.. I wonder how long it will take him before his offense actually gets hard to stop by a good D.