Game of Thrones Season 6

[Echo9]

...and the inevitable buzzkill image that now replaces it.

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[BAZ]

not quite. Bram originally went into his mind, but when Wylis was holding the door, Bram had already stopped. You could see Wylis' eyes, instead of the all white look and where Bram was, watching the past, you could see his eyes. Wylis definitely chose to hold the door and was not forced, and what made the scene sad, was Brad had to watch Wylis' seizure. If he was forcing him still, Bram would have been unaware of the fact that he turned Wylis into Hodor

Bran warged into Hodor and his eyes rolled white and then blue. I believe Bran was controlling him the entire time and is stuck in warg mode. Hodor is not a hero, Bran turned him ******** because young Wylis could see Bran while he was warged inside him during his trip into the past and next week he will be trapped their with the white eyes.

 

[DallasDomination]

So can Bran change the past? Or what's the deal there I didn't quite get how it all went down with Hodor.

 

[DallasDomination]

Bran warged into Hodor and his eyes rolled white and then blue. I believe Bran was controlling him the entire time and is stuck in warg mode. Hodor is not a hero, Bran turned him ******** because young Wylis could see Bran while he was warged inside him during his trip into the past and next week he will be trapped their with the white eyes.

Head blows

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Hold The Door just wanted some Bacon and Eggs..

 

[Manwiththeplan]

So can Bran change the past? Or what's the deal there I didn't quite get how it all went down with Hodor.

Yes, he clearly changed the past, ie Whylis. If he was born before Bram, the only way to explain what Bram did to him, was he effected him in the past, which is why Bram always knew him to be that way.

But try not to over think it, because yes, it would create some time paradox where it is unlikely that Hodor would have been there to Warg into, had he not been like that already, thus he would not have warged into him in the first place

 

[Kevinicus]

Who is Bram?

 

[Kevinicus]

So much was revealed last night

Hodor's special purpose
The Children created the White Walkers to stop the First Men(Starks)- using Dragon Glass
Varys has some prophecy powers as well.......who's voice did he hear?
The Many Faced God founded Braavos
Blackfish survived and regrouped his army
Jorah loves Khaleesi...jk

It is ironic that the girl gets to kill 'Cersai' who was on Arya's list

The Varys bit isn't new, and I don't think he has any powers. We've seen that story before, but Varys said he hadn't told anyone until he told Tyrion.

My guess is it was R'holler, though it could be Bran too.

 

[Dallas_Cowboys50]

Who is Bram?

 

[iceberg]

Who is Bram?

pebbles first son.

 

[YosemiteSam]

...and the inevitable buzzkill image that now replaces it.

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[YosemiteSam]

So can Bran change the past? Or what's the deal there I didn't quite get how it all went down with Hodor.

Bran didn't change the past. What happen happen. Hodor was saying Hodor before Bran visited the past. The past and the future are co-mingled. Bran didn't change anything.

 

[BAZ]

Bran didn't change the past. What happen happen. Hodor was saying Hodor before Bran visited the past. The past and the future are co-mingled. Bran didn't change anything.

Bran made Hodor the show is about time paradoxes now.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Bran didn't change the past. What happen happen. Hodor was saying Hodor before Bran visited the past. The past and the future are co-mingled. Bran didn't change anything.

While you *could* argue that, the much simpler answer is a time paradox was created. Bram caused that change to happen, yet there is no reasonable explanation as to why it would have happened if it hadn't already happened. Kinda like the whole John Connor thing in Terminator.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Bran made Hodor the show is about time paradoxes now.

What? Hodor the show?

While you *could* argue that, the much simpler answer is a time paradox was created. Bram caused that change to happen, yet there is no reasonable explanation as to why it would have happened if it hadn't already happened. Kinda like the whole John Connor thing in Terminator.

A temporal paradox is the correct term. Bran and Hodor are linked telepathically. When Bran was watching the past, his link to Hodor was felt by Hodor in the past and the live happenings with Bran's "real" life where then felt by Hodor allowing him to experience what was happening with Bran in the future. That shock is what put Hodor into his Hodor state. Bran himself didn't do anything physical to change the past. Their telepathic link did. A power that Bran has had all his life and why Bran is in this position now.

 

[Nightman]

What? Hodor the show?



A temporal paradox is the correct term. Bran and Hodor are linked telepathically. When Bran was watching the past, his link to Hodor was felt by Hodor in the past and the live happenings with Bran's "real" life where then felt by Hodor allowing him to experience what was happening with Bran in the future. That shock is what put Hodor into his Hodor state. Bran himself didn't do anything physical to change the past. Their telepathic link did. A power that Bran has had all his life and why Bran is in this position now.

Can Bran warg into anyone or do they have to be a simpleton like Wylis/Hodor?

If he can then he can warg into the Night King and self destruct him and the Army of the Dead, right?

 

[BAZ]

What? Hodor the show?



A temporal paradox is the correct term. Bran and Hodor are linked telepathically. When Bran was watching the past, his link to Hodor was felt by Hodor in the past and the live happenings with Bran's "real" life where then felt by Hodor allowing him to experience what was happening with Bran in the future. That shock is what put Hodor into his Hodor state. Bran himself didn't do anything physical to change the past. Their telepathic link did. A power that Bran has had all his life and why Bran is in this position now.

I missed a ";"

 

[Manwiththeplan]

What? Hodor the show?



A temporal paradox is the correct term. Bran and Hodor are linked telepathically. When Bran was watching the past, his link to Hodor was felt by Hodor in the past and the live happenings with Bran's "real" life where then felt by Hodor allowing him to experience what was happening with Bran in the future. That shock is what put Hodor into his Hodor state. Bran himself didn't do anything physical to change the past. Their telepathic link did. A power that Bran has had all his life and why Bran is in this position now.

Well that is changing the past. How could this have been done prior to Bram being born? he was viewing the past and caused the damage however you want to explain it. It's a paradox because there really is no reason to believe Bram would Warg into him if he was had a normal capacity, let alone be there in the first place.

 

[Nightman]

Well that is changing the past. How could this have been done prior to Bram being born? he was viewing the past and caused the damage however you want to explain it. It's a paradox because there really is no reason to believe Bram would Warg into him if he was had a normal capacity, let alone be there in the first place.

But he warged into him 2 other times.....the Reeds said they had never heard of that before....maybe the History was always written that Hodor would be Bran's protector.....it was his purpose

 

[Manwiththeplan]

But he warged into him 2 other times.....the Reeds said they had never heard of that before....maybe the History was always written that Hodor would be Bran's protector.....it was his purpose

Bram warged into him 2 other times because Hodor had a dimished mental capacity. Do you think Bram would warg into Meera? Of course he wouldn't.

So if history decided that Hodor would be Bram's protector, then how did it happen before Bram was born?