Garrett: We are gonna move on from some guys

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Yep. Having a raging mob hate you for not panning out is probably not all that good for a depressed person.

The team seems genuinely concerned for his health. Whatever his demons, I hope he works them out. As a player, though, I've written him off. As much as I think players missing games for smoking pot is stupid, it is what it is and this doesn't sound like anything he's going to be on top of anytime soon.

It it's bipolar, that's a nasty illness. I have someone close to me that suffers from that, and the only that's helped him keep it under control, without having some wicked side effects, is marijuana.
 

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I teach high school, and from time to time I'll put a quote on the board like, "the voices in my head might not be real, but they have some really good ideas."

We have some pretty good conversations in my head sometimes. It's like CowboysZone in there, only everybody's over the age of 12 and we're allowed to say the most horrible things if we want to.
 

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It it's bipolar, that's a nasty illness. I have someone close to me that suffers from that, and the only that's helped him keep it under control, without having some wicked side effects, is marijuana.

That's what I've suspected he's dealing with. I feel for the dude. Frustrated with his situation, but I feel for him.
 

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Since weed is stored in Fat and it stays in your system for months. How do they know if he freshly smoked weed or old weed? Just asking.

He actually missed this last test, which is a failed test.
 

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The comparison highlighted the biological basis for both mental health issues and cancer. Sorry if that went over your head.

You can't compare the biological basis for mental illness and cancer.

Thats not to say mental illness doesn't exist, just that the understanding of cancer and its mechanisms are much more advanced than say, the understanding of bipolar disorder.

We've yet to come up with a reliable biological test for mental illnesses, which contributes to the high rate of misdiagnosis. Obviously very different from where we're at with cancer.

Its not right, but psychiatry is still somewhat viewed as a pseudoscience within the medical community.
 
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Honestly...this could be the best thing in a long time. It might give Jason Garrett some sorely needed credibility. Not saying it doesn't take him off the hot seat...but If he loses w/ his guys...then there are no more excuses....and everyone will know... if it was Jerry hindering Garrett or Garrett isn't the right guy for the job.:rolleyes:
 

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It's time to move on from Ro but not Gregory. Gregory is under control for a few more years, is affordable, and appears to be wanting to straighten up by going to rehab. If you move on from him now, you run the risk of watching him be a 10-12 sack guy for someone else two years from now.

Definitely agree, now If gregory gets suspended again next year then its time to move on.
 

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It's so dumb. For one thing, he's talking generally about how they want to build the team in terms of core players and premium FA dollars. Two, he clearly mentions on multiple occasions that they make allowances for troubled players they think have a shot to rehabilitate if they have other traits in terms of personality and physical ability that they're looking for. And on top of that, as you say, there's the Jerry factor that nobody else really has any control over.

The risks they take on players like Hardy and McClain they take because the deals are pay-as-you-go. Randy Gregory was a mistake, but he's a guy who (as Stephen said again today) has a sickness that they're working through. He's otherwise the kind of guy they're looking for

Overall, though, we've got a lot of smart dedicate players who do the right thing. If they build the bulk of the roster that way and supplement it with a couple of long shots they think might pan out who are pay-go guys, it's not the end of the world. The character of the team overall is very good, and that's what Garrett's talking about. He said exactly that again today.

Anybody who doesn't understand that at this point is just trying not to understand it.

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It is really too late now, it would seem like they are responding to media/fan pressure, not that they are being tough.

The cowboys are like one of those tabloids, you never know what crazy story you will see each week.

I'm sure Garrett was responding to a question from the media. That's why he said it. They probably decided some time ago to cut the cord when the time is right. I can't imagine that Garrett just woke up this morning and formulated a plan to let some of the problems go.
 

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It's time to move on from Ro but not Gregory. Gregory is under control for a few more years, is affordable, and appears to be wanting to straighten up by going to rehab. If you move on from him now, you run the risk of watching him be a 10-12 sack guy for someone else two years from now.

Under contract, yes. Under control, no.
 

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Honestly...this could be the best thing in a long time. It might give Jason Garrett some sorely needed credibility. Not saying it doesn't take him off the hot seat...but If he loses w/ his guys...then there are no more excuses....and everyone will know... if it was Jerry hindering Garrett or Garrett isn't the right guy for the job.:rolleyes:

Doubt it gives him any credibility. He's just the messenger. These particular roster decisions are not his to make.
 

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You can't compare the biological basis for mental illness and cancer.

Thats not to say mental illness doesn't exist, just that the understanding of cancer and its mechanisms are much more advanced than say, the understanding of bipolar disorder.

We've yet to come up with a reliable biological test for mental illnesses, which contributes to the high rate of misdiagnosis. Obviously very different from where we're at with cancer.

Its not right, but psychiatry is still somewhat viewed as a pseudoscience within the medical community.

What is different is that we have more information on bio markers for cancer. I don't know that many would argue that bipolar is not biologically based as we do know there is a genetic component.

It is funny you suggest the medical community views work on psychological disorders as pseudoscience. Since 2013, the NIMH, our country's largest funder of work in mental health refuses to fund any diagnostic work that does not involve biological markers. Practically, they had deemphasized funding of that work for years already. Perhaps the medical community that you speak of needs to keep current?
 

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It's time to move on from Ro but not Gregory. Gregory is under control for a few more years, is affordable, and appears to be wanting to straighten up by going to rehab. If you move on from him now, you run the risk of watching him be a 10-12 sack guy for someone else two years from now.

LOL Gregory will never play another down of football for the Cowboys again and even if he does he will just screw it up again. Just get rid of these lemons for once and for all and never draft druggies ever again.
 
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