Genuine outrage

ninja;4647443 said:
Didn't Jay Ratliff tell the Cowboy coaches and front office that Costa had something as a center? He has gone up against him in practice.

But, hey, if it makes you feel better to rip on a guy who went from undrafted FA to starting center practicing hard and giving 100% effort...

How about at least giving the guy a chance and see what he does in the preseason games before hyperventilating?


With all due respect, the guy has had his chance and what did he do with it? He showed us that he is a horrible, terrible, awful and train wreck of a center.

Yeah, he went undrafted and, yes, he does practice hard and gives everything he has. Unfortunately for him, everything he has is simply not good enough, by a wide margin. There is a reason he went undrafted, he simply doesn't have the physical tools.

Talking about about Costa and our center situation is indeed like beating a dead horse, but until our front office and our owner realize something that is apparent and blatantly obvious, well I guess we'll have to keep beating this dead horse.

The bottomline is that we can't line Phil Costa up at center this year, at all. Not for one second of one minute of any game. I've seen all I need to from him with all of his horribleness last year. Am I a professional football scout or expert or coach? Nope, but I promise you that if the front office, Jerry Jones and our coaching staff wants to give him the benefit of the doubt because he gives it 100% and worked hard after being undrafted, then we won't win many games and Tony Romo may get killed.
 
I havent been able to read the reports coming out of camp as much, is Costa doing that bad?
I think I read yesterday's reports, and it seemed the line was having trouble, but no specific names mentioned.
 
kevin kowalski will be our center this year ..
 
If Costa is so bad, how were the Cowboys in position to blow five fourth quarter leads with him?

Allen Ball was worse than Costa... So was Newman the last 6 games
 
Gameover;4647471 said:
If Costa is so bad, how were the Cowboys in position to blow five fourth quarter leads with him?

Because we have elite skill position talent. How was Green Bay able to go 15-1 with the worst pass defense in NFL history?

It's a testement to how good Romo and company are, not a defense of Costa. The high point of his season was suriviving Suh when we played Detroit.
 
Gawd, curses to PFF and their utter garbage evaluations and grading for giving people who have absolutely no clue the belief that they have a clue.
 
InmanRoshi;4647477 said:
Gawd, curses to PFF and their utter garbage evaluations and grading for giving people who have absolutely no clue the belief that they have a clue.
Infinitely this.
 
InmanRoshi;4647477 said:
Gawd, curses to PFF and their utter garbage evaluations and grading for giving people who have absolutely no clue the belief that they have a clue.

It doesn't take numbers to know Costa was a trainwreck. He stood out to even the most casual fan. Nobody could miss Vince Wilfork throwing him around like a doll or his repeated crappy snaps against Washington. He was abused in the final Giants game allowing numerous pressures directly up the middle. These are just some of the many examples of failures that were impossible to miss. When he wasnt being overpowered and out-leveraged he was missing blitz assignments, as our kryptonite last year was the MLB blitz and defensive end stunts, because Costa somehow could NOT figure out who to block when it wasnt the guy lining up in front of him.
 
The30YardSlant;4647474 said:
Because we have elite skill position talent. How was Green Bay able to go 15-1 with the worst pass defense in NFL history?

It's a testement to how good Romo and company are, not a defense of Costa. The high point of his season was suriviving Suh when we played Detroit.

That's not saying much they only beat three teams with a winning record.
 
The30YardSlant;4647481 said:
It doesn't take numbers to know Costa was a trainwreck. He stood out to even the most casual fan. Nobody could miss Vince Wilfork throwing him around like a doll or his repeated crappy snaps against Washington. He was abused in the final Giants game allowing numerous pressures directly up the middle. These are just some of the many examples of failures that were impossible to miss. When he wasnt being overpowered and out-leveraged he was missing blitz assignments, as our kryptonite last year was the MLB blitz and defensive end stunts, because Costa somehow could NOT figure out who to block when it wasnt the guy lining up in front of him.


Giving up 2 hurries isn't exactly "numerous" in my book. If you want to point fingers better take a second look at Free.
 
Bluestang;4647485 said:
Giving up 2 hurries isn't exactly "numerous" in my book. If you want to point fingers better take a second look at Free.

I'm not excusing Free's play, but he has also shown that he can play in this league. Costa has not.
 
Lighten up folks.

Rome cannot be built in a day - nor can everything be fixed in one off season. You know that.

It's only a game.
 
The30YardSlant;4647282 said:
That is my feeling towards the mindset that it is in any way acceptable to have Phil Costa snapping the ball to Tony Romo. Costa is to the center position what Tyler Perry is to comedy, a waste of space who is atrocious at his chosen craft yet for some unknown reason is beloved and defended by large groups of people.

We have championship aspirations and yet our front office and coaching staff are still considering starting Costa at center? Costa has no right to even be on the team much less starting, and continuing to risk the health of a great player like Romo over this stiff is appalling amost beyond comprehension.

Whether it be Bernadeau, Arkin, ANYBODY ELSE...this staff has to find a way to find someone better. It is a necessity. No longer should Romo be forced to jump up and catch his horrible snaps, no longer should he have to scramble the moment he gets the ball because a defensive tackle tossed Costa aside like a fifth grader and no longer should our backs be forced to bounce it outside because t-rex arms couldn't hold a block for longer than half a second.

:cry:
 
Manster68;4647492 said:
Lighten up folks.

Rome cannot be built in a day - nor can everything be fixed in one off season. You know that.

It's only a game.

There's a difference between fixing and improving. We fixed the cornerback position, but all that needed to be done was improve upon ineptitude at center.
 
The30YardSlant;4647282 said:
That is my feeling towards the mindset that it is in any way acceptable to have Phil Costa snapping the ball to Tony Romo. Costa is to the center position what Tyler Perry is to comedy, a waste of space who is atrocious at his chosen craft yet for some unknown reason is beloved and defended by large groups of people.

We have championship aspirations and yet our front office and coaching staff are still considering starting Costa at center? Costa has no right to even be on the team much less starting, and continuing to risk the health of a great player like Romo over this stiff is appalling amost beyond comprehension.

Whether it be Bernadeau, Arkin, ANYBODY ELSE...this staff has to find a way to find someone better. It is a necessity. No longer should Romo be forced to jump up and catch his horrible snaps, no longer should he have to scramble the moment he gets the ball because a defensive tackle tossed Costa aside like a fifth grader and no longer should our backs be forced to bounce it outside because t-rex arms couldn't hold a block for longer than half a second.

Can only tell you is that not only does the coaching staff think you're wrong, they believe strongly you're wrong. Time will tell who is right.
 
I don't know if, realistically, there is any alternative at this point, prior to beginning the 2012 season.
 
The30YardSlant;4647481 said:
It doesn't take numbers to know Costa was a trainwreck. He stood out to even the most casual fan. Nobody could miss Vince Wilfork throwing him around like a doll or his repeated crappy snaps against Washington. He was abused in the final Giants game allowing numerous pressures directly up the middle. These are just some of the many examples of failures that were impossible to miss. When he wasnt being overpowered and out-leveraged he was missing blitz assignments, as our kryptonite last year was the MLB blitz and defensive end stunts, because Costa somehow could NOT figure out who to block when it wasnt the guy lining up in front of him.

That's the thing. You don't watch the games carefully and rewatch and scrutinize Costa on a per snap basis. You just throw out 5 or 6 snaps out of over a thousand snaps during the course of a season that looked especially bad aesthetically and form an emotional response rather than an analytical. This is typical of emotional knee jerk fans who form these agendas against persona non-Grata players and paint these laughable caricatures of them falling down and crapping their pants on every snap.
 
The30YardSlant;4647474 said:
It's a testement to how good Romo and company are, not a defense of Costa. The high point of his season was suriviving Suh when we played Detroit.

I am very ambivalent about Costa but this is just a mindless characterization bent on confirmation bias concerning his performance against Suh.

We did not just survive against Suh. Suh had two tackles and we ran for over 4 yards a carry. Suh was a complete nonfactor that game and while it was not just Costa it was in large part due to his play.

I watched Costa be inconsistent and at times downright putrid. I too watched Barry Cofield toss him around like a ragdoll but young players do get better and I am going to give Callahan the benefit of the doubt.

But by all means cry moar.
 
M'Kevon;4647502 said:
Can only tell you is that not only does the coaching staff think you're wrong, they believe strongly you're wrong. Time will tell who is right.

Moneys on the keyboard jockey being wrong.
 

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