Let's see how objective some of you guys can really be.
Some of you won't admit he's a liability, but convienently can't explain his REMOVAL from his primary position (yes, the same position where you guys say name another SS, or he's a Pro Bowler, yadda, yadda, yadda) or even off the field. With you guys, it's as if it never happens.
Hmmm, they also take Spears off too in passing downs. Think that's a ringing endorsement of his pass rushing skills? But, I guess you guys have no problem with Spears being taken off of the field.
Others reluctantly agree that Roy's a liability, but can't admit that being removed from his primary position isn't exactly proving the coaches faith in his skills. Somehow, some of you have twisted it into some badge of honor.
And then there's this. I also have a TIVO and broke-down the Grant play, Zapruder-style:
First Camera Angle:
a.) As Grant takes the handoff, you see Akin approaching at the 40 yard line, then gets engaged by the blocker at the 39.
b.) At the same time, Spears gets driven BACK to the 40, along with James by another blocker, which opens the hole.
c.) Roy comes into frame at the 47 moving towards the hole and Hamlin also comes into frame at the 45 as Grant flies past the blocked Akin and Spears.
d.) Grant moves completely past Akin and Spears at the 41, with Roy at the 45 and Hamlin at the 44.
e.) A few more steps has Grant at the 43 with Hamlin leveling out at the 44 and Roy at the 45.
f.) As Grant reaches the 45, Hamlin is starting to trail back to the 45 a Grant is starting to pass him, meanwhile Roy is still as the 45 but starting to close the distance to Grant.
g.) As Grant, splits the two safeties, both Roy and Hamlin start to reach back to the 46 to try to grab him.
h.) Grant at the 47; Roy and Hamlin reaching in vain as Hamlin starts to slide underneath Roy. NOTE: The runner is two yards past Roy BEFORE he is tripped.
i.) Grant at the 50, Hamlin and Roy both on or falling to the ground.
Camera Angle from behind the offense.
Ball on left hash, with Roy lined up just to the right of the right hash (about 19 feet. Yes, I looked it up.) and Hamlin near the left-hand numbers (I'd say about 17 feet).
a.) As Farve hands-off to Grant (pretty much between the hashes), both Hamlin and Roy recognize the play and start to move forward.
b.) As Grant reaches the line, Hamlin appears to moveing quicker than Roy, although Roy's vision looks to be blocked by the traffic with Spears and James.
c.) Again Hamlin appears to have a direct line-of-site to Grant and Roy appears to pick him up a bit late as Grant passes the traffic.
d.) Grant splits them both, but Roy doesn't touch him.
Camera Angle from behind the defense.
a.) Grant runs through the hole past Akin and Spears.
b.) Hamlin enters the picture from the right, Roy from the left, FARTHER away from Grant.
c.) Hamlin actually makes and attempt to tackle Grant, even touching him, with Roy about 1-2 yards away.
d.) The both fall.
IMO, the biggest culprits on the play were Spears, who got manhandled, as well as Akin and James for failing to get off of the blockers. That said, the safeties (yes both of them) also failed in support (the name safety actually implies last line of defense), but the suggestion that Roy wasn't at fault because Hamlin tripped him is completely bogus.
While Hamlin had a better sight line, he also had further to run. He made it to Grant much faster than Roy. In fact, Hamlin looked to be running while Roy was in a pseudo jog.
Again, any apologist who blames Hamlin for tripping Roy isn't being subjective or honest for that matter. Roy had no shot given his blocked recognition and odd angle.
He was, by no means, entirely responsible for the Grant run, but he failed to help, as did Hamlin.
Bottom line? Roy's above average at run support (not a beast as some would imply) who can deliver the occasional big hit, but NO Sacks, NO tackles for losses and NO forced fumbles would indicate he's no longer a "game changer" that he was early in his career.
He's also a liability in the passing game.
That said, should a part-time player be the highest paid player on the team?
whatever man, why did wade take the great roy williams off the field so much last night if he's so good?
