Great job letting Larry Allen go

[The30YardSlant]

Nothing unusual.

Puppet #7 in this thread :laugh2:

 

[AdamJT13]

Allen made it as the backup guard. NFL.com mistakenly left him off the list.

 

[conner01]

do you realize larry has only played 9 games and has given up 4.5 sacks with a very mobile qb. he made it as a reserve because his name was the only other one they recognized. i loved larry but if you look at the economics of the nfl, and the fact we have our guards move around then it's easy to see why larry is no longer here.larry has'nt had a real pro bowl year in quite a while.by the way he was very fast when he came into the league. remember the saints game he ran down a db on an int?

 

[theogt]

Puppet #7 in this thread :laugh2:

You're still the joke in this thread for using pro-bowl selection as a determination of talent. I guess you think DeAngelo Hall is better than Newman.

In case you're unaware. This is me, clowning on you.

 

[baj1dallas]

Bein better than Rivera isnt an accomplishment. However, he ist far better by any stretch. Kosier is frail for a man his size.

What the hell makes you say he's "frail"? Has he even missed a snap this season? He's done a fine job run blocking this year and he's better in pass protection than Rivera. He's had a handful of bad plays but nothing where you think "this guy isn't strong enough to be a guard".

 

[The30YardSlant]

I saw him too, they used him like crazy and he can't take that many reps anymore, he wasn't worth a damn in the fourth quarter he missed several blocks but Gore is so outstanding a runner that it didn't matter. He also proved a great decoy on the Niners final touchdown, they pulled him and then ran through the hole he vacated after having trained the Seattle defense to flow toward Allen.

That's all fine and dandy, but as you're speaking, LA is paving the way for the league's 3rd leading rusher.

 

[dfense]

Let's not sugar-coat Kossier. He's been above average at best at run-blocking and sub-par at best in pass-blocking. Letting Larry Allen go was a HUGE mistake. We could seriously use Larry Allen in the playoffs but will have to settle for the weak-link on our OL.

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I've seen several games where Kosier was praised for his traps and downfield blocking. He CAN pull effectively and make his blocks. Blocks that Larry simply could not get to, let alone make. Larry's legs were his downfall. He lost alot of his mobility and it made a difference in the plays they could call. That's a fact.

Larry has missed about a quarter of this season injured. I watched him the other night and gave him an A for effort. But even when he gets out to lead a sweep, which he had a real hard time doing, he misses his assignment or the guy just sidesteps him. I would love to see him kick *** for years to come but he's a shell.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Puppet #7 in this thread :laugh2:

Hey, I didn't say you were wrong. I just said your premise being shot to hell wasn't anything unusual.

 

[The30YardSlant]

You're still the joke in this thread for using pro-bowl selection as a determination of talent. I guess you think DeAngelo Hall is better than Newman.

In case you're unaware. This is me, clowning on you.

In case you're unaware (very likely), this is me using facts to, as you put it, "clown" you:

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/411568

He's also only given up 5 sacks to Kosier's 6.5

 

[The30YardSlant]

What the hell makes you say he's "frail"? Has he even missed a snap this season? He's done a fine job run blocking this year and he's better in pass protection than Rivera. He's had a handful of bad plays but nothing where you think "this guy isn't strong enough to be a guard".

He routinely gets pancaked and driven back by guys whom he outweighs by > 50 pounds, especially in short yardage.

 

[theogt]

In case you're unaware (very likely), this is me using facts to, as you put it, "clown" you:

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/411568

He's also only given up 5 sacks to Kosier's 6.5

You're a joke for thinking sacks given up is an accurate stat. Even if it were, how many of those were with Romo or Bledsoe? The entire line was handicapped with Bledsoe.

 

[Aikbach]

That's all fine and dandy, but as you're speaking, LA is paving the way for the league's 3rd leading rusher.

I don't deny he's capable but i dismiss the idea he is the player of old or even worthy of pro bowl mention any longer. He is a Hall of Famer for sure but the years have taken their toll, Gore is a fantastic runningback, Allen once was the cream of all linemen but no longer. His legacy is so grand that he continues to make the Pro bowl off of retro-active credits.

 

[The30YardSlant]

You're a joke for thinking sacks given up is an accurate stat. Even if it were, how many of those were with Romo or Bledsoe? The entire line was handicapped with Bledsoe.

So let me get this straight:

You post an opinion based on nothing even remotely resembling facts

I post an opinion, back it up with stats that show that LA has not only helped turn a former nobody into an NFL rushing juggernaut but given up less sacks than his replacement here in Dallas

And somehow in all of this, I'M the joke

 

[theogt]

So let me get this straight:

You post an opinion based on nothing even remotely resembling facts

I post an opinion, back it up with stats that show that LA has not only helped turn a former nobody into an NFL rushing juggernaut but given up less sacks than his replacement here in Dallas

And somehow in all of this, I'M the joke

You base your opinion on winning a popularity contest and an inaccurate stat.

That makes you a joke.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

ESPN said he was named a backup

I'd liken Allen's selection to the Pro Bowl as a spare donut (tire) on a car; it works when you can't find anything else.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

In case you're unaware (very likely), this is me using facts to, as you put it, "clown" you:

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/411568

He's also only given up 5 sacks to Kosier's 6.5

In 5 fewer games with a much more mobile quarterback for half the year.

 

[burmafrd]

Heavy - do a little MATH
LA missed 4 games and allowed 5 sacks in 10 games
Kosier played all 14 games and allowed 6.5 sacks.
Do I have to spell it out for you?

 

[The30YardSlant]

You base your opinion on winning a popularity contest and an inaccurate stat.

That makes you a joke.

No, I base my opinion on the fact that San francisco's O-Line was awful last year and they have a 1,500 yard back this year. I base my opinion on the fact that Kosier has given up 1.5 more sacks than Allen. I base my opinion on the fact that Dallas' leadign rusher trails SF's by nearly 500 yards and averages over 1 yard less per carry.

Notice how the word "fact" was sprinkled throughout that post? That's why your opinion has no merit, because there are no facts backing it up. You've lost, get over it, and move on, unless you can give me some tangible proof of your viewpoint. until then, I'm finished owning you.

 

[Aikbach]

You base your opinion on winning a popularity contest and an inaccurate stat.

That makes you a joke.

Fellas, fellas, can't we all just get along?

Allen was once the supreme burrito of all o-linmen and ranks with John Hannah and Anthony Munoz among the very best ever.

However no longer is he the Joe Montana of guards, he is still servicable and his reputation has afforded him further attention because the good ol' days were so impressive and dominant.

Kosier is a solid and youthful guard, a street brawler in the words of Bill Parcells, he is cheaper and more agile than the current Larry Allen.

Kosier is not a hinderance to this team, Rivera may be on the other hand.

 

[theogt]

Heavy - do a little MATH
LA missed 4 games and allowed 5 sacks in 10 games
Kosier played all 14 games and allowed 6.5 sacks.
Do I have to spell it out for you?

What does it matter? He mad the probowl! THE PROBOWL!!!