Gregory's Suspension

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I still lol at rehab for weed!

He doesn't need rehab, he needs a psychiatrist to figure out his mental illness.
It is his dependency that he's in rehab for, doesn't matter if it's drugs, alcohol, gambling, etc, weed was his symptom. To risk everything, especially after talking about his Mom and disappointing her, there is a deeper cause to his problem.
 

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I'll be honest, I can't fault the team for making that pick. I would do it again (and would have been OK with them taking Spence in this past draft).

Yeah, he likely is never going to amount to anything in this league and if he does it probably won't be here. But when a talent like that falls into the mid to late 2nd round, I'll take that chance every single day. It's why I am OK with Smith at 34 last year. Sure, there are risks, but every pick is a risk and I can never rip a team for taking a chance on a guy that has the potential to be an elite level player which I think Gregory, Spence and Smith all have/had a chance to be.
 

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Once they enter rehab, there are no announcements made until they come out. And I agree about preparing as if he's gone.

Manziel went in and came out worse. And he went to that one in CA where all the celebrities go, probably nothing but top shelf whiskey.
LOL. Couchcoach is funny. I see your new here, Ive been laughing at your zingers in a few other threads.
 

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doesn't matter if it's drugs, alcohol, gambling, etc, weed was his symptom. To risk everything, especially after talking about his Mom and disappointing her, there is a deeper cause to his problem.

I agree, I have seen people struggle with stopping smoking. An addiction is an addiction, for some breaking habits and or addictions is much harder than others.
 

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Did you miss the poke at the misspelling...

No, completely missed it, was trying to do 3 things at once. I should have paid more attention.
I went back and looked to see what you meant....lol, nice poke...
 

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No, completely missed it, was trying to do 3 things at once. I should have paid more attention.
I went back and looked to see what you meant....lol, nice poke...

No problem...just trying to lighten the mood.

Nice post though regardless, you were right on!
 

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No, it's not an addiction as much as it is a severe personality disorder that causes extreme anxiety. The only "drug" that works for him is marijuana.

What makes me sick is that Randy Gregory is actually using the SAFER alternative to treat his anxiety by smoking Reefer as opposed to the "Doctor Recommended" method which involves getting on a regiment of Benzo's aka XANAX/Valium/Klonopin/etc., and I can speak from personal experience that benzos are almost as bad as opiates.

Why? Because they are physically addicting and are one of only two substances that can cause a person to die from withdrawals (alcohol is the other).

The reason this ain't gonna change though is all bc of one thing n one thing only: $$$$$$ for the pharmaceutical companies, Doctors, n anyone else involved. Such a shame.
 

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  • 2 seasons he's been with the team, and 0 sacks and I believe 1 game played. That was a great pick.
  • Regardless of the length of suspension, he will be ineffective this season.
  • We need to draft a DE using a 1 st rd pick, we built out Oline that way, time to do the same for the D.
 

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Same here because I think Manziel did it to get out of the spotlight. I have some experience with the rehab route with my younger son and there are a lot of people in it playing the "go along game". I hope football has little to do with it and he's hit rock bottom because until they do some never think they have a problem, they think everyone else does.

I never was a Quincy Carter fan but that is just sad that he's back in the news again for the same crap. You have to check the date on the stories about him because they're all the same.
To this day I still pray for Quincy that he gets better.
 

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What makes me sick is that Randy Gregory is actually using the SAFER alternative to treat his anxiety by smoking Reefer as opposed to the "Doctor Recommended" method which involves getting on a regiment of Benzo's aka XANAX/Valium/Klonopin/etc., and I can speak from personal experience that benzos are almost as bad as opiates.

Why? Because they are physically addicting and are one of only two substances that can cause a person to die from withdrawals (alcohol is the other).

The reason this ain't gonna change though is all bc of one thing n one thing only: $$$$$$ for the pharmaceutical companies, Doctors, n anyone else involved. Such a shame.
With all due respect this is simply not true. If he has been diagnosed with a personality disorder than the best treatment is Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT) and anti-depressants if needed. Depending on what Personality Disorder her has would depend on what medicine he would receive. Not all Personality Disorders are treated with Benzos, that's more anti-depressants. Xanax and other Benzos are used more with diagnoses that have severe panic attacks or crippling anxiety. Now if someone has anxiety. The absolute worst thing you can do is smoke weed or drink alcohol. Since we're talking about weed in this discussion I'll focus on that. Weed is a depressant that will make you feel better at a time of a panic attack but it affects the chemicals in your brain which exacerbates the core issue of having anxiety. So you're basically mortgaging the future to deal with the present. Benzos, along with a long term anti anxiety medicine will address the chemical issue in your brain to decrease the anxiety and keep it away. So you deal with the present and the future.

Last month I went to a suicide prevention seminar for my practice and the rate of suicide for all major dspressive and anxiety disorders as well as personality disorders is 3%. If you take the same disorder and add weed to the equation the suicide rate jumps to 95%! Scary.
Don't smoke weed if you have any form of depression or anxiety. It's not worth the risk.
 

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With all due respect this is simply not true. If he has been diagnosed with a personality disorder than the best treatment is Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT) and anti-depressants if needed. Depending on what Personality Disorder her has would depend on what medicine he would receive. Not all Personality Disorders are treated with Benzos, that's more anti-depressants. Xanax and other Benzos are used more with diagnoses that have severe panic attacks or crippling anxiety. Now if someone has anxiety. The absolute worst thing you can do is smoke weed or drink alcohol. Since we're talking about weed in this discussion I'll focus on that. Weed is a depressant that will make you feel better at a time of a panic attack but it affects the chemicals in your brain which exacerbates the core issue of having anxiety. So you're basically mortgaging the future to deal with the present. Benzos, along with a long term anti anxiety medicine will address the chemical issue in your brain to decrease the anxiety and keep it away. So you deal with the present and the future.

Last month I went to a suicide prevention seminar for my practice and the rate of suicide for all major dspressive and anxiety disorders as well as personality disorders is 3%. If you take the same disorder and add weed to the equation the suicide rate jumps to 95%! Scary.
Don't smoke weed if you have any form of depression or anxiety. It's not worth the risk.

I have read the same types of information. I did read where 1 compound in Cannabis which is CBD can help with anxiety yet a major compound of cannabis which is THC is what gives a person of feeling of paranoia and anxiety. People trying to pass weed off as some cure or anxiety is like trying to put a band aid on a severed limb
 

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I have read the same types of information. I did read where 1 compound in Cannabis which is CBD can help with anxiety yet a major compound of cannabis which is THC is what gives a person of feeling of paranoia and anxiety. People trying to pass weed off as some cure or anxiety is like trying to put a band aid on a severed limb
Exactly, it's the THC that can cause major problems and can make the anxiety worse. And you're right about the Cannabis. They (a company in Colorado) sell Cannabis oil that you can put in your tongue that helps releave short term anxiety that doesn't have the dangerous THC in it. I've never prescribed it or recommended it to my patients but I've had a couple patients tell me they tried it and it helped.
 

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  • 2 seasons he's been with the team, and 0 sacks and I believe 1 game played. That was a great pick.
  • Regardless of the length of suspension, he will be ineffective this season.

Bullet one is so factually incorrect it reads like an attempt to be wrong.
Bullet two is baseless opinion but might be heavily influenced by the stench of number one.
 

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Bullet one is so factually incorrect it reads like an attempt to be wrong.
Bullet two is baseless opinion but might be heavily influenced by the stench of number one.
Oops my bad let me redo it :rolleyes:
  • 2 seasons he's been with the team, and o sacks and suited up for 12 games and recorded 0 sacks and 7 mucho grande tackles lol - this is a fact and cannot be disputed
  • If he gets a 10 games suspension, and he returns from the rehab facility in primo NFL starting shape, then yes he might be able to participate. But in my opinion, that is not likely. I don't believe that rehab facilities provide NFL quality gyms as well as strength and conditioning coaches. Furthermore they probably don't have football drills and practices.
  • If he gets the 4+ 10 suspension, and he returns after the 14th game in primo shape, the yes he will b able to participate in 2 games plus any post season. That's if he returns in shape and is conditioned.
  • The stench you smell is all the weed Puff puff - this is a fact and cannot be disputed unless you find weed aromatic.

Overall the thoughts are the same. He's been on the team for two years with little production. check. It's high improbable that he will be in football shape when he returns from either the 10 or 14 game suspension which will limit his participation in this season. Check
:hammer:

Just an FYI: I've met him 2-3 x he's a nice dude and likeable on a personal level. My comments are about his football status and not about him as a person.
 
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The writing is already on the wall - he doesn't even have a locker.
 

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What do we know at this point about the Gregory issue? Was it actually rehab, or was he getting help for his medical conditions someway in a long-term treatment center? And what's been said about the 'failed' test? Did he miss the test because he was in the treatment facility? Or did he fail a test and he also went to the facility?

It seemed like the team publicly acknowledged that Gregory's issues are more significant that a failed drug test, and that it was more than his career that was at stake here, didn't they? I got the sense that there was a lot going on here that's not public knowledge because it related to his personal health information and that it all played a role in how the league was going to handle his situation.
I would add that from what I hear, the reason he failed this test is because he was actually already checked in to this facility.

I know that leniency is not common with the NFL - but of all the reasons for them to grant an excuse....that seems like the one.
 

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Oops my bad let me redo it :rolleyes:
  • 2 seasons he's been with the team, and o sacks and suited up for 12 games and recorded 0 sacks and 7 mucho grande tackles lol - this is a fact and cannot be disputed
  • If he gets a 10 games suspension, and he returns from the rehab facility in primo NFL starting shape, then yes he might be able to participate. But in my opinion, that is not likely. I don't believe that rehab facilities provide NFL quality gyms as well as strength and conditioning coaches. Furthermore they probably don't have football drills and practices.
  • If he gets the 4+ 10 suspension, and he returns after the 14th game in primo shape, the yes he will b able to participate in 2 games plus any post season. That's if he returns in shape and is conditioned.
  • The stench you smell is all the weed Puff puff - this is a fact and cannot be disputed unless you find weed aromatic.

Overall the thoughts are the same. He's been on the team for two years with little production. check. It's high improbable that he will be in football shape when he returns from either the 10 or 14 game suspension which will limit his participation in this season. Check
:hammer:

Just an FYI: I've met him 2-3 x he's a nice dude and likeable on a personal level. My comments are about his football status and not about him as a person.
Your comment was he played 2 seasons. That was wrong.
And that he played one game. Also wrong.

When you're that off on the fundamentals, whatever follows is likely to be even worse.
 
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