Handling of Randy Gregory Looks Bad on NFL, NFLPA

[Broges74]

Bell never failed a drug test....... he was arrested with weed during the old drug policy but punished under the new policy enacted in 2014...... the same one that vacated OScandrick's suspension.......Cowboys fans always forget that

Bell's second suspension reduction came from a missed test the day after he had knee surgery at 530am..... Bell said he couldn't drive because his knee.......it wasn't overturned but reduced to 3 games instead of 4, hardly a win

Gregory has failed or missed at least 6 tests...... if he has a good reason for the latest miss I haven't heard it and the arbitrator didn't buy it

You hardliners about marijuana are amusing, I wonder what your guilty pleasure of choice is?

 

[CowboyStar88]

But according to some here the NFL doesn't have it out for the Cowboys. It's obvious that the NFL and their ties to the Giants play a role. There isn't anyone who can convince me otherwise. It's painfully obvious and you aren't being honest with yourselves if you keep denying it.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Gregory is an idiot and it's hard to defend his actions and I don't feel any sympathy for him at all, but where the heartburn for me is that on the outside, it appears that all players are not treated equally.
The Bell situation bugs me simply from the fact that he has a deal in place that assures him of only a 4 game suspension on his next drug test fail or miss.

Secondly, this expedited appeal of Gregory reeks of an agenda specifically to hurt the Cowboys in the playoffs this year.

And don't get me started on the Zeke situation, as far as I know, that whole thing is still hanging out there despite him being cleared by authorities. You have to wonder if the NFL is going drop that hammer soon.

 

[roughneck266]

Why are you not pro marijuana? Are you also not pro drinking or any other vice?

Im not Pro Marijuana, because it is currently illegal. I have no moral player in that game. If they legalize it fine, I have no issue with it. Currently it's taboo for the league and the law where I love though.

 

[CowboyStar88]

RGregory has no leg to stand on.....he has failed or missed over 6 tests judging by numbers of fines and suspensions

1st fail - enter the program
2nd fail - 2 game fine
3rd fail - 4 game fine
4th fail - 4 game suspension
5th fail - 10 game suspension
6th fail - year long ban at least

So what's the stats for bell? With all his suspensions and with the rumor he cut a deal for a 4 game suspension if he fails again where does it rank him as far as how many tests? Also we can add legal troubles to Bells case as well like being arrested for DUI and having pot on him. So while he has "no leg to stand on". The point still stands Bell has been just as bad if not worse and has been just fine.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Bell never failed a drug test....... he was arrested with weed during the old drug policy but punished under the new policy enacted in 2014...... the same one that vacated OScandrick's suspension.......Cowboys fans always forget that

Bell's second suspension reduction came from a missed test the day after he had knee surgery at 530am..... Bell said he couldn't drive because his knee.......it wasn't overturned but reduced to 3 games instead of 4, hardly a win

Gregory has failed or missed at least 6 tests...... if he has a good reason for the latest miss I haven't heard it and the arbitrator didn't buy it

So what's the difference if Bell missed his test because of surgery Yet Gregory missed his because he was in rehab? I don't see how they couldn't take that into consideration. They don't get phone privileges really for a couple of weeks depending on the treatment facility ( I know because I had to put my ex-wife through it after she got hooked on pain pills after surgery which ruined her nursing career). I would think that is something the NFL should've been understanding about.

 

[tyke1doe]

Weed policy is pretty archaic though. Most of the problems weed has caused is because it's illegal. Like Prohibition, it's caused a more policed state, overpopulation of the prison system, and instead of the Mafia we got Cartels.

No, there's a reason why weed is illegal. It's because we believe in a society people are better off being sober than being drunk, buzzed, foggy-headed, etc.
Second, you really don't get rid of the problems associated with alcohol or drugs. You merely transfer them.
And we see this with alcohol. Okay, maybe you got rid of incarcerating bootleggers, shot house operators and crimes associated with the black market. But those didn't disappear. They were merely transferred. So instead of shoot outs between rival groups you get people being killed by drunk drivers. Instead of incarceration in prison for running a bootleg operation, you get those who have to check into rehab facilities because of their problems with alcohol. And on and on and on.
And guess what? It will be the same with the legalization of marijuana. Problems and negative consequences associated with drug use (whether cocaine or marijuana) will merely be transferred. You'll still have the same problems. They'll just be legal.

 

[LandryFan]

Getting paid what? Over $14 million...he better have a brass set.

$14 million is a little low. His reported salary last year was $31.7 million. His salary in 2012 was well over $40 million. His salary this year hasn't been officially published to my knowledge, but I have read that it is around $45 million.

 

[trickblue]

I can't for the life of me figure out why Bell is the only player getting beneficial treatment on these suspensions. The only thing that comes to mind is he is a star player and that's a really bad look.

Rooney and Mara are ALWAYS gonna get the good rulings...

Remember PK Brown for the Giants. The league knew DAMN good and well there were multiple domestic abuse reports yet suspended him one game. They only had to do more when the public learned of the extent.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Meanwhile Michael Floyd will probably play every down for the Patriots for some reason.

Apples and oranges.

 

[dogberry]

One has to drive to one's drug test?

Is Gregory expected to get up 120 times at 5:30 AM and drive to a drug test while not being paid by the NFL?

 

[risco]

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...l-nflpa-010617?cmpid=feed:-sports-CQ-RSS-Feed

Also:

Yeah- looks like this is not over and maybe more come out of this crap.

 

[haleyrules]

This is why I am no fan of the NFL. I have been a Cowboys fan for going on 40 years but I have never cared for the NFL as an entity, especially now.

Same here!

 

[plasticman]

Drunk drivers kill, don't we know this already? However, alcohol is legal so any moral attachment to the illegality of marijuana is blind acceptance of laws that simply don't make sense. Not only that, it is an outright violation of the Constitution.

Why is marijuana considered such a gross violation in the NFL? Why can somebody drive drunk, kill somebody, and be back on the field in less than a year while Gregory must continue to wait?

Marijuana does not enhance a players abilities in football, marijuana is none of the NFL's damm business.
Oh, because it is illegal? It would be a misdemeanor at worse, players commit felonies like domestic abuse, shoplifting, discharging firearms but they get less suspension timed than smoking marijuana?

Obviously, this policy does not exist simply because of the legal status of marijuana, worse crimes get a slap on the wrist in many cases.

Why does the NFL continue to enact policies that suggest they own the player, that the player must submit to the will of the league 24-7:Where is the player association? Where are the players agents, many of them lawyers? A career is in jeopardy of being completely destroyed, if he was a real criminal Gregory would stand a better chance of being defended by the groups who claim to be his advocates?

This issue is not closed by a long shot.

 

[AzorAhai]

Rooney and Mara are ALWAYS gonna get the good rulings...

Remember PK Brown for the Giants. The league knew DAMN good and well there were multiple domestic abuse reports yet suspended him one game. They only had to do more when the public learned of the extent.

Whatever the reasoning, it doesn't look good on the league. This is going to be a big sticking point in the next cba and I don't see how Goodell keeps the judge, jury and executioner title he currently has.

 

[gmoney112]

No, there's a reason why weed is illegal. It's because we believe in a society people are better off being sober than being drunk, buzzed, foggy-headed, etc.
Second, you really don't get rid of the problems associated with alcohol or drugs. You merely transfer them.
And we see this with alcohol. Okay, maybe you got rid of incarcerating bootleggers, shot house operators and crimes associated with the black market. But those didn't disappear. They were merely transferred. So instead of shoot outs between rival groups you get people being killed by drunk drivers. Instead of incarceration in prison for running a bootleg operation, you get those who have to check into rehab facilities because of their problems with alcohol. And on and on and on.
And guess what? It will be the same with the legalization of marijuana. Problems and negative consequences associated with drug use (whether cocaine or marijuana) will merely be transferred. You'll still have the same problems. They'll just be legal.

Except there isn't anything to "pass on" with Marijuana. Which is why anyone who's ever used it thinks it's ridiculous. Rehab maybe, but those are people that would have find anything to abuse.

There will never be a time, except maybe in a millenia when booster shots are given to children to eliminate the basic instincts of human psyche and the psychological issues and abuse, where there are not reasons why people seek substances. It's not going to happen. So, once you ascertain a level of common sense about it, as they did with alcohol (which is a far more societal danger than Marijuana), efforts should be concentrated intelligently.

Alcohol is a far more dangerous drug than Marijuana. Look at Colorado. Recreational marijuana is fine. Alcohol causes complete impaired-ness, you can't even compare the two as far as societal impact on legalization.

Instead, we're giving kids criminal records, locking people up, and giving yet another reason for stupid people to cast judgment and justify their self righteous indignation, for a substance that is less harmful to your body THAN SUGAR. Tax breaks to companies causing an obesity epidemic with high fructose corn syrup mass produced celebrated brands.

Plenty of people cope different ways, if the worst a guy does is grow a small plant in his house and use it, by all means that's no one's damn business but his own. Hell, with the way people are treated now by the medical and pharmaceutical industry, getting them hook on opiates and cutting them off and labeling them "addicts", passing out dangerous barbiturates like candy, SSRI being the first thing a doc puts you on when you have anxiety/depression.

Marijuana should be encouraged as an alternative. It's far less dangerous than what any pharmaceutical company will gladly hand you in an appointment, and has been effective as evidenced by the vast community using it, as an alternative for pain management, anxiety, depression, and various other unfortunate diseases.

Not to mention, as a businessman, it's a sad sack when I see all these tax dollars going to waste arresting kids with a damn dime bag of weed, when states could be creating hundreds of thousands of jobs. The war against Marijuana is the biggest waste of tax dollars I've ever seen, absolutely ridiculous. Might as well arrest all the stupid parents that feed their fatass kids McDonalds every day if we really want to arrest people harmful to society.

 

[Plankton]

One has to drive to one's drug test?

Is Gregory expected to get up 120 times at 5:30 AM and drive to a drug test while not being paid by the NFL?

If he wishes to resume his career in the NFL, he has to comply fully with the substance abuse program.

If it requires him to get up that many times at the crack of dawn, and drive to be tested, the answer is yes.

If he doesn't want to play in the NFL, then he can smoke up the island of Jamaica, and it won't matter. If he does, then he has to comply with the rules.

 

[plymkr]

On occasion it seems Goodell plays favorites.

On a lot of occasions he plays favorites

 

[Zordon]

First 10 minutes of Jerry's PC today was about Gregory. You can tell he's pissed and this is not over. Another year is cruel and unusual punishment.

 

[AbeBeta]

Gregory is an idiot and it's hard to defend his actions and I don't feel any sympathy for him at all, but where the heartburn for me is that on the outside, it appears that all players are not treated equally.
The Bell situation bugs me simply from the fact that he has a deal in place that assures him of only a 4 game suspension on his next drug test fail or miss.

Secondly, this expedited appeal of Gregory reeks of an agenda specifically to hurt the Cowboys in the playoffs this year.

And don't get me started on the Zeke situation, as far as I know, that whole thing is still hanging out there despite him being cleared by authorities. You have to wonder if the NFL is going drop that hammer soon.

No, there's a reason why weed is illegal. It's because we believe in a society people are better off being sober than being drunk, buzzed, foggy-headed, etc.
Second, you really don't get rid of the problems associated with alcohol or drugs. You merely transfer them.
And we see this with alcohol. Okay, maybe you got rid of incarcerating bootleggers, shot house operators and crimes associated with the black market. But those didn't disappear. They were merely transferred. So instead of shoot outs between rival groups you get people being killed by drunk drivers. Instead of incarceration in prison for running a bootleg operation, you get those who have to check into rehab facilities because of their problems with alcohol. And on and on and on.
And guess what? It will be the same with the legalization of marijuana. Problems and negative consequences associated with drug use (whether cocaine or marijuana) will merely be transferred. You'll still have the same problems. They'll just be legal.

Damn. That made no sense