Has any great QB had a crueler run than Tony Romo?

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Jim Kelly made it to the SB 4 times, yes all losses, but his career , most of which where his choices, really not worse than Romo. Romo, who i feel had an organization try their best to screw things up for Romo compared to making things easier. Scouting was bad for a while, coaches were bad, FO just sat there and Romo is standing there like the old lady in the car insurance company saying "thats not how it works, thats not how any of this works"

and no one ripped Kelly for losing the big games.

 

[iceberg]

Zeke's record is 8-1 too I guess!

Sorry but you are the one that brought team accomplishments into not me!

got 2 of you coming at me all butthurt looking for love.

sorry. deal with it.

 

[KJJ]

And back then if you weren't on a good team you never had national exposure. I don't think I saw very many Saints games broadcast in the 70's.

All I can remember with Archie Manning was him running for his life. He had some Saints teams that were some of the worst ever. The 1980 Saints are ranked in the top 10 worst ever. I believe the 1980 Saints fans were the first to wear paper bags on their heads to games.

 

[DandyDon52]

CowboyFan74 said: ↑
From what I've heard Dandy Don Meredith used to get beat down a lot in games.

From what I understand the beatings he took both on the field, and even more importantly by the media and fans at the time, are why he retired early.

Well back then it was much tougher to play a long time, they could hit you low in the knees, hit your head with arm and hand , the old
head slap, and the helmet was not much of a helmet.
They could hit them way after pass was thrown, so Don played for what 8 years, and he had other options to make more $
and not be hit at all.
Back then Don probably made about 60,000 a year if that much.
The team had morton and a young staubauch , so he just decided to do something better.
Had they beat GB, he would have been a SB QB, but just didnt work out like that.

He made more $ away from football, and had a good time making that money.

 

[DandyDon52]

All I can remember with Archie Manning was him running for his life. He had some Saints teams that were some of the worst ever. The 1980 Saints are ranked in the top 10 worst ever. I believe the 1980 Saints fans were the first to wear paper bags on their heads to games.

That was also a period where once you were on a team you couldnt leave and go to another team, that rarely happened.
Archie was a good passer, and NO was I think a expansion team.
For the time period he made good money to play.

 

[aikemirv]

got 2 of you coming at me all butthurt looking for love.

sorry. deal with it.

Aren't you the clever one. Snowflake!
Take it to your cry room because you can't handle it

 

[DandyDon52]

About Romo, he had some bad luck, but some here say you make your own luck.
I think the seattle fumble branded him as a choker and loser in big games, and that stuck.
Then in 2007 he was so good, and they won so much, I think he got the big head, and that led to losing to the giants.
That was his big chance for a SB run.
After that he didnt have another chance till 2014, and the GB game stopped that, and he played a part in that loss,
like many of the players, and the coaches.
They played a bad game, they should have beat GB .

Tony was a roll out qb in 2006 and 2007, then I think it was 2008 the eagles forced him to stay in pocket, not letting him roll out,
and they beat dallas. After that some other teams used the same defense so jg made him a pocket passer, and after that,
he started taking the beatings. They could have went back to the rollout style, and he would not have taken those hits he did
in the pocket.
But they never went back, and tony used his spin move, or he would have taken even more hits.

But all in all tony had a good run, and it isnt over yet, he made 100 mil or so, that is about 99.5 mil more that dandy don made in his career,
and tony is famous.
just the ring and the glory of that evaded him so far, but he still could get one this year.

 

[DFWJC]

Archie Manning.

good one

 

[iceberg]

Aren't you the clever one. Snowflake!
Take it to your cry room because you can't handle it

heh - i'm not the one whining away, now am i?

nah. i'm not. just slip on your romo-underoos with the feet in them and clutch your romo ball to sleep. you'll get through this.

 

[plasticman]

Archie Manning.

Bingo!

This guy was elite.

He was the 2nd overall pick of the Saints when there was no such thing as free agency. He never had a winning season, the whole franchise was a joke. He went to rhe Pro Nowl twice but would have gone almost every year with even an average team.

This was during the time of no "in the grasp"' or "down by contact" or "helmet to helmet". He was a beaten and batterred quarterback who spent his career running for his life.

He beat the eventual SB champion Cowboys during his rookie year. I do mean he beat them.

It was poetic justice that both sons won SB MVP.

 

[DFWJC]

Ya really gotta love people who think Tony handing off to Zeke 20x a game would be leading the NFL in turnovers or something. What a stupid argument.

Go back and look at how many turnovers Romo had in all of 2014 handing the ball off to DeMarco Murray 20x a game.

34 TD's, 9 int's and 3 fumbles lost in 16 games.

Can we stop this stupidity already?

Not only that, but they started the ground and pound after the opening game debacle vs SF.
After that and over the next 16 games (including playoffs) Romo had 37 TDs and 6 ints.
Yes, I think he would love having Zeke in his backfield.

Dak's time now though.
Talk about good fortune. The very first NFL team he gets to play for has the best line in football, maybe the best RB in football, and plenty of receiving help.
Dude is charmed.

 

[aikemirv]

heh - i'm not the one whining away, now am i?

nah. i'm not. just slip on your romo-underoos with the feet in them and clutch your romo ball to sleep. you'll get through this.

Whining, you are the one who originally responded to my post and were owned by the 13-1 versus 8-1 when you brought up record.

so go away!

 

[drawandstrike]

Not only that, but they started the ground and pound after the opening game debacle vs SF.
After that and over the next 16 games (including playoffs) Romo had 37 TDs and 6 ints.
Yes, I think he would love having Zeke in his backfield.

Dak's time now though.
Talk about good fortune. The very first NFL team he gets to play for has the best line in football, maybe the best RB in football, and plenty of receiving help.
Dude is charmed.

Oh and something else I should have pointed out: about 1/2 those interceptions, 4-5 of them came on TIPPED BALLS where the receiver messed up the catch and popped the ball up in the air. You could honestly say Romo only threw about 4 passes that a defender had a play on that was intercepted.

 

[iceberg]

Whining, you are the one who originally responded to my post and were owned by the 13-1 versus 8-1 when you brought up record.

so go away!

at this point i have no idea what the holy hell you are talking about.

it was before i started that my apathy about it set in.

go have fun being angry. when you can put a few thoughts together to make sense, holla.

just not at me. apathy and all.

 

[dfense]

I hope it's not over yet. I hope we see him play this year. I still believe he is better than Dak. I know I am in the minority now.

Not really. Bad Karma keeping Romo out. You didn't see the Broncos do that to Manning and he sucked. Bad Karma on a promising season.

 

[lukin2006]

The team is 8-1, Romo hasn't played 4 complete games in the last season and a half, I think it's reasonable to just commit to Dak at this point. I would say 2 years ago he was the better option, not 2016...and not going forward. I appreciate Romo and all he has given this franchise but let us be realistic if they decided to go back to Romo at this point, I know I wouldn't be the only Cowboy fan holding his breath every time Romo goes down wondering if he'll get off the turf...with Dak that's not an issue. Is there a fan out there that doesn't believe that Romo wouldn't have cost us a game or two because of poor timing of turnovers, that is the biggest thing lost on Dak, just 2 INT so far this year and a few fumbles (which I think will get cleaned up). The time is now for Dak, Romo had a great career for the Cowboys and it's very unfortunate that his Cowboy career might end this way. I am thankful that we got lucky with the Dak and its looking like we won't need a carousel of QBS to bridge the gap between Romo and his successor Dak...because that's exactly what happened when Aikman was near the end...no successor in place and none came along until Romo. I'm certainly no QB expert but as teams have gathered more film on Wentz it seems he slowed a bit, still stuck on 9 TD passes, as for Dak he's played a lot of preseasons and the entire regular season, so plenty of film for opposing teams and it appears he is getting better...and as Parcells said "he just needs to drive the bus", and he's doing that well.

 

[dfense]

He's not better at winning, and he's not better at not throwing interceptions, things that keep you from winning.

He's not better at winning? Because of 8 wins? Not better at not throwing picks? I've seen at least 4 dropped. But ok,

Is he better in the red zone? Is he better in the 2 minute drill? Is he better at the endzone fade to Dez? Is he better with no running game? How would he do without Zeke averaging 120 yards a game? Is he better throwing a seam route? I haven't seen him throw one yet. Yup. Better all around.

 

[dfense]

dude - i'm as much a romo fan as anyone and while theoretically this could be true, in reality, bwahahahahahahahahahaha

Trust me, you are not a Romo fan.

 

[Clove]

He's not better at winning? Because of 8 wins? Not better at not throwing picks? I've seen at least 4 dropped. But ok,

Is he better in the red zone? Is he better in the 2 minute drill? Is he better at the endzone fade to Dez? Is he better with no running game? How would he do without Zeke averaging 120 yards a game? Is he better throwing a seam route? I haven't seen him throw one yet. Yup. Better all around.

His record says, he's a fantastic regular season QB, that's all. Take a good look at his measley playoff record. Call me when you see the guy in the NFC championship game or the Super Bowl.

 

[Hostile]

@Hostile would know.

I could be wrong, and if I am I apologize. But in 1984 Gary Hogeboom was starting and against the Saints Danny came in and led us to a comeback win. I want to say it was either 30-27 or 27-24.