I do think Parsons was the guy all along

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How does a LB help against the run when they are taking on Guards? The problem with this defense starts at the DT position.
But there wasn't that guy where they were picking in this draft, not a DE either. They went next best thing with a tackling machine MLB.

They did address the DT position and I think Quinn pretty much knows his DT's are responsible for keeping the interior lineman off his MLB.

One thing for sure, neither of those CB's were going to fix the run D.
 

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W/ Diggy and Biggy, at least an attempt to fix it was made.
After the fact it’s certainly supports such an argument.

But in the end after our alleged targeted CB’s were taken we took the most talented defensive player on the board which was a solid pick for a team focused on defense in draft.

Not sure why some fans feel it’s important to argue Parsons was our intended pick going in?
 

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W/ Diggy and Biggy, at least an attempt to fix it was made.


Their attempt after the Ram playoff debacle was Hill and it was pathetic. This coaching staff has at least made it a point to get better in comparison to that with Gallimore, Osa, Bohanna etc and a beast of a LB who can plug a hole and shed blocks!
 

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You'd better hope quite a few of these kids get stars on their helmets or that really bad D is going to continue.
Not sure with added draft picks , FA acquisition ,talent like Gregory and Van Esch returning along with developing picks from last year like Gallimore and Diggs that this defense can be anything but improved.
 

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After the fact it’s certainly supports such an argument.

But in the end after our alleged targeted CB’s were taken we took the most talented defensive player on the board which was a solid pick for a team focused on defense in draft.

Not sure why

some fans feel it’s important to argue Parsons was our intended pick going in?


LOL The team said it. Parsons was their guy all along. Not sure what is so difficult here while you just assume they were going corner! because beat writers said so. or better yet Jerry and his lip service pre draft.
 

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They wanted one of the corners then traded down once they weren't there end of story.

I agree. I think Surtain was their guy. But the package of Parsons and the extra pick was a great consolation prize.
 

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LOL The team said it. Parsons was their guy all along. Not sure what is so difficult here while you just assume they were going corner! because beat writers said so. or better yet Jerry and his lip service pre draft.
Of course they said it. Do you believe everything they say? Or just pick and choose what you want to believe ??
 

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After the fact it’s certainly supports such an argument.

But in the end after our alleged targeted CB’s were taken we took the most talented defensive player on the board which was a solid pick for a team focused on defense in draft.

Not sure why some fans feel it’s important to argue Parsons was our intended pick going in?
No idea, and I don't care. I have not entered into that argument(that I remember!!!) because it's pointless.

To me, it's now about our fix, and whether it will work or not. Most of the little pantywaste discussions don't interest me much. Boo on you for trying to drag me into it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Of course they said it. Do you believe everything they say?


Not before the draft, but after.. yes. They have zero reason to lie at that point. While you think teams are just going to announce their plans leading up to it.
 

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No idea, and I don't care. I have not entered into that argument(that I remember!!!) because it's pointless.

To me, it's now about our fix, and whether it will work or not. Most of the little pantywaste discussions don't interest me much. Boo on you for trying to drag me into it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand and was not my intent . However this threads intent was to establish that.
 

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After the fact it’s certainly supports such an argument.

But in the end after our alleged targeted CB’s were taken we took the most talented defensive player on the board which was a solid pick for a team focused on defense in draft.

Not sure why some fans feel it’s important to argue Parsons was our intended pick going in?
Are you kidding me? The Professional Arguer, and self professed at that, doesn't know why we need to argue this?

It is not a very important point, I agree, it's done. But, as a Booger basher, I immediately discounted what he said after the draft as his usual BS but if I now believe he was telling the truth, I must set the record straight. That's why I started this thread.

What the hell the rest of you are doing in it is a mystery as I didn't invite anyone in to disagree with me.
 

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Not before the draft, but after.. yes. They have zero reason to lie at that point. While you think teams are just going to announce their plans leading up to it.
Of course they have a reason to lie at that point. Last thing they’d do is admit their intentions weren’t realized.
 

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Are you kidding me? The Professional Arguer, and self professed at that, doesn't know why we need to argue this?

It is not a very important point, I agree, it's done. But, as a Booger basher, I immediately discounted what he said after the draft as his usual BS but if I now believe he was telling the truth, I must set the record straight. That's why I started this thread.

What the hell the rest of you are doing in it is a mystery as I didn't invite anyone in to disagree with me.
So, you’re flip flopping on what Jethro said or you have changed your mind? You believe him now. And you expect the rest of us to? Lol
 

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Of course they have a reason to lie at that point. Last thing they’d do is admit their intentions weren’t realized.


Weren't realized? The draft has to unfold with many different possibilities. There's nothing set in stone no matter who they wanted. That's how it is every year. 32 teams making moves. No intention is a lock.. ever. So like I said, zero reason to lie about it. They said Parsons was higher on their board than either corner.
 

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I understand and was not my intent . However this threads intent was to establish that.
Yes, it was. When he said Parsons was the guy all along, I called BS on that. The more I looked at it afterwards, including his comment the week of the draft about discounting players that opted out, the more I began to believe him. The run D was the goal, CB's do not fix that and neither of those two were known for tackling in college.

If I am going to call BS, which is basically calling him a liar, and then I come to believe him, I felt it necessary to right my wrong. I could be wrong now but this is what I believe.

You just don't want cut him any slack, I get that.
 

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Yes, it was. When he said Parsons was the guy all along, I called BS on that. The more I looked at it afterwards, including his comment the week of the draft about discounting players that opted out, the more I began to believe him. The run D was the goal, CB's do not fix that and neither of those two were known for tackling in college.

If I am going to call BS, which is basically calling him a liar, and then I come to believe him, I felt it necessary to right my wrong. I could be wrong now but this is what I believe.

You just don't want cut him any slack, I get that.
Actually I did cut him some slack by stating it was a solid move after the fact the two targeted CB’s were selected right in front of us .

I’m just not going to argue Parsons was their intention at the 10th pick. Was he on their board and regarded as best defensive player in draft . Yes
 

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So, you’re flip flopping on what Jethro said or you have changed your mind? You believe him now. And you expect the rest of us to? Lol
I do not expect anything. I believe him, I don't care what anyone else believes.

I did not believe him at first and said so and after thinking about it, made sense to me. Bad run D and Parsons is considered a tackling machine, set the record at Penn St., pretty fair LB school, and there wasn't a run stopping DL at that draft level. I also think Quinn thinks he might be his Bobby Wagner.
 
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