If Austin is the #2, Would You Take This?

[CATCH17]

Judas when we have given Austin an opportunity he has made the most of it.

He scored a TD in the 1st Washington game.

He lit up Green Bay.

He got injured and Roy Williams was brought in.

The Roy Williams move is what set his development back last year.

Plus his early season injury when it was pretty apparent he was going to open the year as the starter after making so many plays in pre-season.

Hes a small school guy with ultra athletic ability that had to develop.

Well his time is now.

 

[Biggems]

If we can get these numbers, I would be happy

Williams - 80 rec, 1100 yds, 8 TDs
Witten - 80 rec, 1100 yds, 8 TDs
Austin - 50 rec, 600 yds, 4 TDs
Crayton - 50 rec, 400 yds, 4 TDs
Bennett - 40 rec, 400 yds, 6 TDs
Jones - 40 rec, 400 yds, 4 TDs
Choice - 30 rec, 250 yds, 2 TDs
Barber - 20 rec, 150 yds, 1 TD

Romo would have 390 completions (24.4 cpg), 4,500 yds (281.25 ypg), and 37 TDs (just over 2 TDs per game). Of course this doesn't include any passes to the FB, Stanback, or any other WR or TE who make the roster.

If we are able to run the ball for 140 ypg on 30 carries (4.67 ypc), that would give us 421.25 total ypg. It would give us 2,240 rushing yds on the season (6,740 total yds). Also, if we were able to score 15 rushing TDs on the year, that would give us 52 offensive TDs...or 364 pts (22.75 ppg), not counting defensive or special teams scores, as well as FGs. Add 2 FGs per game into the mix and we get a 28.75 ppg average from our offense.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

You're right, he's blown Aikman away in every statistical category possible his first 2.5 seasons as a starter.

And no, before the riot gear comes out I'm not saying Romo>Aikman and I get Playoff wins > all and yada yada yada.

But what we are discussing here is our #2 WR's production over the course of the season, and I think Troy would be the first to tell you that there is nothing in Romo's play that is going to hold back Miles Austin.

December and the playoffs is another animal - I get it - but saying that we can't win with Romo or that he is not able to rack up yardage and points over the course of a year is just silly given what he has accomplished over 39 games.

You might have a better point with the offensive line, which is clearly not in the same class as Aikman enjoyed.

Thanks Wilee.
My point is valid in the first part of my post as well.

Romo doesnt throw the ball that Aikman does and that has alot to do with getting Harper-like production out of Austin.

Like it or not, admit it or not - Romo doesnt have that weapon that helped him to those "blown Aikman away...." stats.


Romo has to load up to get the deep ball out. When he gets pressured he floats it out there and then its done.




Romo can lead us where we want to go. Will he? developing....

 

[CATCH17]

Thanks Wilee.
My point is valid in the first part of my post as well.

Romo doesnt throw the ball that Aikman does and that has alot to do with getting Harper-like production out of Austin.

Like it or not, admit it or not - Romo doesnt have that weapon that helped him to those "blown Aikman away...." stats.


Romo has to load up to get the deep ball out. When he gets pressured he floats it out there and then its done.




Romo can lead us where we want to go. Will he? developing....

Most of Romo's game isn't the deep ball though.

He does throw it down field when we enter the defensive half of the field but he spreads it to everyone.

TO was a bomb threat. Thats for sure.

But if someone is open down field Romo can get them the ball. His arm is more than plenty.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Most of Romo's game isn't the deep ball though.

Agreed. So how is he going to avg almost 25 ypc. Rac and Yac?

He does throw it down field when we enter the defensive half of the field but he spreads it to everyone.

TO was a bomb threat. Thats for sure.

But if someone is open down field Romo can get them the ball. His arm is more than plenty.

I saw him come up short too many times going deep. WR's waiting for ball.. having to slow down.

 

[wileedog]

Romo has to load up to get the deep ball out. When he gets pressured he floats it out there and then its done....

Which is why he throws so well on the run.

The revisionist history on Tony Romo this season is unbelievable. He played most of the season coming off a broken pinky and back contusions, two factors which will rob any QB of their power and accuracy, and yet a 4200 yard, 36 TD season the year before is tossed away as if it never happened

Last year this time if someone suggested Romo for Cutler they would have been laughed off this board. Some bad injuries, horrible O-line play, one bad interview and a WR sent to Buffalo and suddenly he can no longer get the ball down field without "loading it up." Complete nonsense.

Yeah, Troy's arm was stronger and more accurate - that is why he is going to the Hall of Fame. But I tell you what, behind this O-line Troy's career would looked a lot more like Drew Bledsoe's.

 

[wileedog]

I saw him come up short too many times going deep. WR's waiting for ball.. having to slow down.

Yeah, he's got an 8.1 YPA career average because he's a dink and dunker.

 

[NextGenBoys]

33 receptions (barely over 2 per game)

821 yards (it is a 24.9 ypc avg.)

8 TDs (the important stat)

You kidding me? All day.

24.9 YPC? Talk about a deep threat...although he may have been close to that this past season.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Which is why he throws so well on the run.

Irrelevant.

The revisionist history on Tony Romo this season is unbelievable. He played most of the season coming off a broken pinky and back contusions, two factors which will rob any QB of their power and accuracy, and yet a 4200 yard, 36 TD season the year before is tossed away as if it never happened

I am not even refering to this season or any particular one.

Last year this time if someone suggested Romo for Cutler they would have been laughed off this board. Some bad injuries, horrible O-line play, one bad interview and a WR sent to Buffalo and suddenly he can no longer get the ball down field without "loading it up." Complete nonsense.

Irrelevant. I never said I wanted that.

Yeah, Troy's arm was stronger and more accurate - that is why he is going to the Hall of Fame. But I tell you what, behind this O-line Troy's career would looked a lot more like Drew Bledsoe's.

Irrelevant.



Thank you very much.

 

[wileedog]

Irrelevant.

I am not even refering to this season or any particular one.

Irrelevant. I never said I wanted that.


Irrelevant.


Thank you very much.

Take a look at 2:54 on this video. Romo avoids the rush and pumps outside, then sees TO streaking, pulls the ball down and basically flips it 40 yards down field on a rope. His back foot is not even on the ground as he releases.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EulFEv_AaeQ

That's an NFL throw, and it got out of there faster than Ailman ever did.

Even more relevant for this thread, look at the last play at 6:30. That should be a nice basis for Hos' optimism.

Feel free to post your videos of WRs waiting around for Romo's lobs to get there.

 

[Hostile]

Which is why he throws so well on the run.

The revisionist history on Tony Romo this season is unbelievable. He played most of the season coming off a broken pinky and back contusions, two factors which will rob any QB of their power and accuracy, and yet a 4200 yard, 36 TD season the year before is tossed away as if it never happened

Last year this time if someone suggested Romo for Cutler they would have been laughed off this board. Some bad injuries, horrible O-line play, one bad interview and a WR sent to Buffalo and suddenly he can no longer get the ball down field without "loading it up." Complete nonsense.

Yeah, Troy's arm was stronger and more accurate - that is why he is going to the Hall of Fame. But I tell you what, behind this O-line Troy's career would looked a lot more like Drew Bledsoe's.

No joke. I find that beyond ignorant, but do my best to stay out of it. The idea that his WRs can't put up good stats because hsi stats are superior to Aikman's is mind boggling. Aikman is the better QB, but Romo is in an Offense that caters to passing. Last year Austin averaged 21.6 ypc, but he can't average more than that by moving up the WR rotation. It's really tragic that people have become so stupid.

 

[dbair1967]

Yeah, Troy's arm was stronger and more accurate - that is why he is going to the Hall of Fame. But I tell you what, behind this O-line Troy's career would looked a lot more like Drew Bledsoe's.

Honestly I think this is non-sense.

First off, most of the time this OL pass blocks just fine. Was it as good last yr as the previous two? No, but when you have a revolving door at LG due to injuries and your LT plays the entire yr with one arm, that happens.

Second, I dont care where you put Aikman, he was eons better than Drew Bledsoe ever was. He'd have been a great QB anywhere. He was just that talented.

 

[DallasEast]

Will never happen, TO is gone, and this offense will not produce more than about 120 total yards of offense, and myabe 7 points per game. TO was the catalytic player that made the offense go, and he is gone.






Someone had to post it!

:laugh2:

 

[DallasEast]

No joke. I find that beyond ignorant, but do my best to stay out of it. The idea that his WRs can't put up good stats because hsi stats are superior to Aikman's is mind boggling. Aikman is the better QB, but Romo is in an Offense that caters to passing. Last year Austin averaged 21.6 ypc, but he can't average more than that by moving up the WR rotation. It's really tragic that people have become so stupid.

I KNEW this thread was going to be all that and then some. Thanks for posting it.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Obviously, the point I am trying to make is that as long as the Offense moves we will not miss a beat. We do not need huge production from the #2 WR spot as much as we just need someone who uses speed to make the Defense pay whenever he can.

I think Austin is a very good choice for that.

At a time when our Offense was virtually unstoppable, the #2 WR was not a Terry Glenn type producer.

Correct, but we also had a guy named Emmitt Smith leading the way in the running game. We don't have him on this team, but we do have three extremely capable RBs that can combine to be as good.

 

[Clove]

If we can get these numbers, I would be happy

Williams - 80 rec, 1100 yds, 8 TDs
Witten - 80 rec, 1100 yds, 8 TDs
Austin - 50 rec, 600 yds, 4 TDs
Crayton - 50 rec, 400 yds, 4 TDs
Bennett - 40 rec, 400 yds, 6 TDs
Jones - 40 rec, 400 yds, 4 TDs
Choice - 30 rec, 250 yds, 2 TDs
Barber - 20 rec, 150 yds, 1 TD

I actually agree with these numbers. I'd love the TDs, but I'd like more catches from Austin, which means they can't just T-Off on Witten.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Which is why he throws so well on the run.

The revisionist history on Tony Romo this season is unbelievable. He played most of the season coming off a broken pinky and back contusions, two factors which will rob any QB of their power and accuracy, and yet a 4200 yard, 36 TD season the year before is tossed away as if it never happened

Last year this time if someone suggested Romo for Cutler they would have been laughed off this board. Some bad injuries, horrible O-line play, one bad interview and a WR sent to Buffalo and suddenly he can no longer get the ball down field without "loading it up." Complete nonsense.

Yeah, Troy's arm was stronger and more accurate - that is why he is going to the Hall of Fame. But I tell you what, behind this O-line Troy's career would looked a lot more like Drew Bledsoe's.

No joke. I find that beyond ignorant, but do my best to stay out of it. The idea that his WRs can't put up good stats because hsi stats are superior to Aikman's is mind boggling. Aikman is the better QB, but Romo is in an Offense that caters to passing. Last year Austin averaged 21.6 ypc, but he can't average more than that by moving up the WR rotation. It's really tragic that people have become so stupid.

Ignorant. Stupid.

Excellent.

 

[NextGenBoys]

33 receptions (barely over 2 per game)

821 yards (it is a 24.9 ypc avg.)

8 TDs (the important stat)

Haha I just realized what you did. Those stats were Alvin Harpers total from '94. Very nice comparison. If Austin gives us the level of play from Harper during our run, I'll be happy with him as a number 3 target.

 

[Rampage]

If we can get these numbers, I would be happy

Williams - 80 rec, 1100 yds, 8 TDs
Witten - 80 rec, 1100 yds, 8 TDs
Austin - 50 rec, 600 yds, 4 TDs
Crayton - 50 rec, 400 yds, 4 TDs
Bennett - 40 rec, 400 yds, 6 TDs
Jones - 40 rec, 400 yds, 4 TDs
Choice - 30 rec, 250 yds, 2 TDs
Barber - 20 rec, 150 yds, 1 TD

Romo would have 390 completions (24.4 cpg), 4,500 yds (281.25 ypg), and 37 TDs (just over 2 TDs per game). Of course this doesn't include any passes to the FB, Stanback, or any other WR or TE who make the roster.

If we are able to run the ball for 140 ypg on 30 carries (4.67 ypc), that would give us 421.25 total ypg. It would give us 2,240 rushing yds on the season (6,740 total yds). Also, if we were able to score 15 rushing TDs on the year, that would give us 52 offensive TDs...or 364 pts (22.75 ppg), not counting defensive or special teams scores, as well as FGs. Add 2 FGs per game into the mix and we get a 28.75 ppg average from our offense.

i'll be shocked if that happens. I don't see Romo throwing 30 tds next season.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

If you get 12 TDs from 1 yard out, doesn't mean as much as if you're scoring those TDs from 30 yards out, 6 yards out, 70 yards out, 12 yards out etc.

So, in essence, you're saying that TDs scored from 30 yards out are worth more points than TDs scored from 1 yard out, right?